Failed plot to steal domain name at gunpoint brings 14-year prison term

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Wow, every single person in this story is an asshole.

Why is the domain owner an asshole? I'm not a fan of domain squatting either (also no mention in the article of the guys was, indeed, squatting on the domain or using it), but surely he has every right to price his property however the hell he wants. Even if that means nobody wants to buy it because, honestly, there are plenty of other options...
For what it's worth, it's not his property: domain names are not owned by their registrants. That's why we pay for the privilege of their control at regular intervals. If he is a squatter, then he is an asshole (though no less a victim, and in no way deserving of anything remotely close to what he endured).

I would love for ICANN to crack down on domain squatters---not with violence, mind you. :p
 
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Wow, every single person in this story is an asshole.
Why is the victim an asshole? Is it because he wanted $20,000? Is it because he tried to disarm the attacker when he feared for his life?

It seems to me the victim was just chilling in his house and the assholes attacked him.

Maybe I am missing something.
From the article...

Adams told law enforcement that "he used to own the doitforstate.com domain name" before the victim did, according to the trial brief. The victim registered the domain name on GoDaddy sometime after Adams lost control of it.
The victim was a domain squatter. Also known as an "asshole". Also, the convicted is an idiot for failing to renew their registrations, among other obvious reasons.

Thanks for that but I read the article. I guess we will just have to disagree on the squatter being an asshole. He asked for $20K, seems to me a counter offer was the next step.
 
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I mean, I would have just transferred it, then called the police, and pressed charges for armed robbery, breaking and entering, and grand theft of a domain name. Then, I would have had a court order GoDaddy to transfer the domain back to me as stolen property.

I upvoted you, but in reality I think the victims actions probably saved his live. After being pistol whipped multiple time, tased multiple times, and being threatened with death if the transfer didn't go through, the victim most likely thought the next step in the process was his murder. How else would they get away with this crime. Once the transfer was complete, the assailant had no further use of the victim; in fact the victim was a liability.

Proving intent to murder in this case is probably impossible, but I have a strong suspicion that was the original plan.

Yeah, that definitely occurred to me as well. I'd go with events. Maybe if I go along without resistance, it will lull them into a sense of complacency, maybe they turn their back on me for a second thinking I'm a passive, cooperative, non-threat victim, then I slam them in the head with a lamp or something, or run away, whichever seems more possible in the circumstance.

If they start getting violent for no reason at all, then I'd probably try to fight back, to keep from getting killed.
 
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On a positive note a criminal was shot several times with his own gun. It sounds like the wounds nearly removed him from the gene pool.
I don't know...it doesn't say he died anywhere just that he "ended up suffering gunshot wounds".
Given that the story says he was "previously sentenced to 20 years in prison as part of a plea agreement," I'm guessing he survived the three shots to the chest.

Which is lucky for Adams; he probably would be facing a life sentence for felony murder if Hopkins had died.

Highly unlikely.

Violent home invader that pistol whipped you and shot you in the leg? You would have a reasonable fear of additional bodily injury. I suspect even in California under those conditions you'd be OK, but this is Iowa which has the castle doctrine, which would totally protect the home owner in this situation - the home owner could have shot the guy as soon as he came in the front door and been just fine.

Personally speaking, I'd have done the exact same thing, except maybe with better aim...
 
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On a positive note a criminal was shot several times with his own gun. It sounds like the wounds nearly removed him from the gene pool.
I don't know...it doesn't say he died anywhere just that he "ended up suffering gunshot wounds".
Given that the story says he was "previously sentenced to 20 years in prison as part of a plea agreement," I'm guessing he survived the three shots to the chest.

Which is lucky for Adams; he probably would be facing a life sentence for felony murder if Hopkins had died.

Highly unlikely.

Violent home invader that pistol whipped you and shot you in the leg? You would have a reasonable fear of additional bodily injury. I suspect even in California under those conditions you'd be OK, but this is Iowa which has the castle doctrine, which would totally protect the home owner in this situation - the home owner could have shot the guy as soon as he came in the front door and been just fine.

Personally speaking, I'd have done the exact same thing, except maybe with better aim...

Yes, IF HE's already pistol whipped me and shot me in the leg. I didn't mean I'd cooperate at that point. That definitely changes things.

But, as I've thought about this more, I also realized that you could go the other way too: "Look, if you shoot me, you will never, ever, ever, ever get the domain name. I've got a buddy that will inherit the domain name upon my death. You might as well leave, because you can't kill the domain name away from me, so you have literally zero leverage."

I mean, if you point that out, they have a decision to make. Whether to shoot you out of spite with nothing to gain, or just to flee.
 
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Wow, every single person in this story is an asshole.

Why is the victim an asshole? Is it because he wanted $20,000? Is it because he tried to disarm the attacker when he feared for his life?

It seems to me the victim was just chilling in his house and the assholes attacked him.

Maybe I am missing something.

The wording in the article is kind of ambiguous. The two ways I can understand the events between Idiot and Squatter:

1) Squatter had bought up domains ahead of time. Idiot decided they wanted one that Squatter owned, but did not like the price. => Idiot is totally in the wrong and an asshole, Squatter is fine.

2) Idiot owned the domain but did not renew in time, Squatter bought it as it expired then demanded Idiot pay 20,000 to get it back. => Idiot is totally in the wrong and an asshole, Squatter is also an asshole but a way lesser sort. In the same kind of way that cutting someone off makes you an asshole driver, but murdering someone for cutting you off is so out of proportionally worse that the original asshole move is a rounding error.


Thanks, that explanation did clarify. The squatter acquired rights to the domain name in a legal manner. I get that it is not a popular business model but his price did not seem out of line. But I can see how some might perceive this as an asshole move.
 
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On a positive note a criminal was shot several times with his own gun. It sounds like the wounds nearly removed him from the gene pool.
I don't know...it doesn't say he died anywhere just that he "ended up suffering gunshot wounds".
Given that the story says he was "previously sentenced to 20 years in prison as part of a plea agreement," I'm guessing he survived the three shots to the chest.

Which is lucky for Adams; he probably would be facing a life sentence for felony murder if Hopkins had died.

Highly unlikely.

Violent home invader that pistol whipped you and shot you in the leg? You would have a reasonable fear of additional bodily injury. I suspect even in California under those conditions you'd be OK, but this is Iowa which has the castle doctrine, which would totally protect the home owner in this situation - the home owner could have shot the guy as soon as he came in the front door and been just fine.

Personally speaking, I'd have done the exact same thing, except maybe with better aim...
You've got the who's who wrong. Adams is the douche who instigated the plot, not the victim.
 
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On a positive note a criminal was shot several times with his own gun. It sounds like the wounds nearly removed him from the gene pool.
I don't know...it doesn't say he died anywhere just that he "ended up suffering gunshot wounds".
Given that the story says he was "previously sentenced to 20 years in prison as part of a plea agreement," I'm guessing he survived the three shots to the chest.

Which is lucky for Adams; he probably would be facing a life sentence for felony murder if Hopkins had died.

Highly unlikely.

Violent home invader that pistol whipped you and shot you in the leg? You would have a reasonable fear of additional bodily injury. I suspect even in California under those conditions you'd be OK, but this is Iowa which has the castle doctrine, which would totally protect the home owner in this situation - the home owner could have shot the guy as soon as he came in the front door and been just fine.

Personally speaking, I'd have done the exact same thing, except maybe with better aim...

Yes, IF HE's already pistol whipped me and shot me in the leg. I didn't mean I'd cooperate at that point. That definitely changes things.

But, as I've thought about this more, I also realized that you could go the other way too: "Look, if you shoot me, you will never, ever, ever, ever get the domain name. I've got a buddy that will inherit the domain name upon my death. You might as well leave, because you can't kill the domain name away from me, so you have literally zero leverage."

I mean, if you point that out, they have a decision to make. Whether to shoot you out of spite with nothing to gain, or just to flee.
Those aren't the only two options the assailant had. There's always torture. After all, how many bones should the victim be willing to sacrifice to protect a domain name?

Also, keep in mind that even by that point the assailant does have something to gain--shooting the victim eliminates a witness.
 
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Wow, every single person in this story is an asshole.

Why is the victim an asshole? Is it because he wanted $20,000? Is it because he tried to disarm the attacker when he feared for his life?

It seems to me the victim was just chilling in his house and the assholes attacked him.

Maybe I am missing something.

The wording in the article is kind of ambiguous. The two ways I can understand the events between Idiot and Squatter:

1) Squatter had bought up domains ahead of time. Idiot decided they wanted one that Squatter owned, but did not like the price. => Idiot is totally in the wrong and an asshole, Squatter is fine.

2) Idiot owned the domain but did not renew in time, Squatter bought it as it expired then demanded Idiot pay 20,000 to get it back. => Idiot is totally in the wrong and an asshole, Squatter is also an asshole but a way lesser sort. In the same kind of way that cutting someone off makes you an asshole driver, but murdering someone for cutting you off is so out of proportionally worse that the original asshole move is a rounding error.

Isnt that particular domain name kind of generic for a squatter to bet on? I mean they usually buy up ones that really are worth alot of money. I just dont see doitforstate to be that well known.
 
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I wonder if this moron would have gotten further with a UDRP dispute. I'm not sure his claim would have checked all the boxes, but the potential to lose all rights to the domain might have caused the squatter to negotiate a little harder.

Of course, whether or not he had a trademark in place, by the time the dispute was handled properly this idiot's 15 minutes of fame as an "Influencer" would have probably long passed ...
 
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On a positive note a criminal was shot several times with his own gun. It sounds like the wounds nearly removed him from the gene pool.
I don't know...it doesn't say he died anywhere just that he "ended up suffering gunshot wounds".
Given that the story says he was "previously sentenced to 20 years in prison as part of a plea agreement," I'm guessing he survived the three shots to the chest.

Which is lucky for Adams; he probably would be facing a life sentence for felony murder if Hopkins had died.

Highly unlikely.

Violent home invader that pistol whipped you and shot you in the leg? You would have a reasonable fear of additional bodily injury. I suspect even in California under those conditions you'd be OK, but this is Iowa which has the castle doctrine, which would totally protect the home owner in this situation - the home owner could have shot the guy as soon as he came in the front door and been just fine.

Personally speaking, I'd have done the exact same thing, except maybe with better aim...

Adams is not the victim. Adams is the other co-conpirator. Felony murder applies when someone (anyone) dies in the comission of a felony. If Hopkins had died the Adams would face felony murder for being part of a criminal enterprise that led to a death (yes even the death of another criminal is sufficient).
 
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While I'd never go to such extremes, it reminds me of a time when I was young and reckless, over 15 years ago now, I sent angry e-mails to a domain squatter that snapped up a domain that my friends and I were using for our PC gaming hobby/project. The domain name was a made up word consisting of initials that spelled a plant name and half of another unrelated word.

My friend who registered the domain had let it lapse as we had completed our project and weren't really updating the site as much. When we tried to renew the domain, we found that a domain squatter had snapped it up and put up a ad-riddled page relating to the plant name that formed the first half of the domain name and a contact form for buying the domain.

One of my friends sent an enquiry about buying back the domain name. Now keep in mind this domain name is a made up word which as far as I could see in a Google search noone else had ever used before, and we made absolutely no money off our project as it was a labour of love for a particular gaming franchise. The squatter wanted $10,000. As if a bunch of high school and uni students could afford to pay that.

Every couple of months after that, I would use their e-mail contact form to send messages about how they were scum and that noone would ever pay for that domain name. When the registration expired 3 years later, the squatter did not renew and my friend was able to snap up the domain name and put our site back up. Our little group eventually drifted apart, the domain registration lapsed again and is currently in the hands of some Chinese company.

I currently have two domains that I use for personal projects and ensure they are set to auto renew.
 
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Wow, every single person in this story is an asshole.
Why is the victim an asshole? Is it because he wanted $20,000? Is it because he tried to disarm the attacker when he feared for his life?

It seems to me the victim was just chilling in his house and the assholes attacked him.

Maybe I am missing something.
From the article...

Adams told law enforcement that "he used to own the doitforstate.com domain name" before the victim did, according to the trial brief. The victim registered the domain name on GoDaddy sometime after Adams lost control of it.
The victim was a domain squatter. Also known as an "asshole". Also, the convicted is an idiot for failing to renew their registrations, among other obvious reasons.

He may be a domain squatter. He may even be an asshole. It is also possible he was tired of seeing his alma mater's images being drug through the gutter. He may have picked up the domain to protect the university and by extension the value of his degree. Just thinking.
 
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How could this have ended well for Adams? Surely he would be the prime suspect.

There is some weird vortex of stupid around domain name registrations. If you have a good long time, check out what happened to sex.com over the years. Plus you have the infuriating practices of domain squatting and typo registration, which, while thank the gods I've never been in the stupidity vortex and thus wouldn't consider the nutty measures people go to, almost makes you WANT to when some dipshit has registered a name in the hopes that someday you'll want it and will pay dearly for it. Or worse, as someone mentioned above, has an automated script looking for lapsed registrations so they can snatch them up and extort money from the previous owners to get them back. NEVER let a registration lapse, even for a minute.

Oddly, I am casually acquainted with one of the first people to try to make a living doing these things circa 1993 - he was a regular on the usenet newsgroup talk.bizarre, and everyone hated him, which admittedly wasn't a tall bar on talk.bizarre, but still. The name escapes me, though.
 
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[url=https://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=38385913#p38385913 said:
Given that the story says he was "previously sentenced to 20 years in prison as part of a plea agreement," I'm guessing he survived the three shots to the chest.

Which is lucky for Adams; he probably would be facing a life sentence for felony murder if Hopkins had died.

Highly unlikely.

Violent home invader that pistol whipped you and shot you in the leg? You would have a reasonable fear of additional bodily injury. I suspect even in California under those conditions you'd be OK, but this is Iowa which has the castle doctrine, which would totally protect the home owner in this situation - the home owner could have shot the guy as soon as he came in the front door and been just fine.

Personally speaking, I'd have done the exact same thing, except maybe with better aim...

In Iowa (and California) you are allowed to use deadly force to defend yourself from deadly force. Shot with a gun you brought in somebody else's house, and the guy that shot you has injuries from being pistol whipped is an ironclad defense, with or without castle doctrine laws.

Also in Iowa (and California and probably every other state) if you hire somebody to commit a felony and they wind up getting killed as a direct consequence of doing so, you will face prosecution for murder.

What not killing Hopkins did for the victim is it allowed him to have a live (if hostile) witness to establish that Adams had arranged the crime. Had he killed Hopkins, he might have had a much harder time proving that Adams was behind it and he could still be in danger.

Thus it's likely it's a lucky accident for everybody involved that Hopkins is still alive (most of all Hopkins). You don't shoot somebody several times in the chest expecting that they'll be around to testify at trial.
 
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On a positive note a criminal was shot several times with his own gun. It sounds like the wounds nearly removed him from the gene pool.
I don't know...it doesn't say he died anywhere just that he "ended up suffering gunshot wounds".
Given that the story says he was "previously sentenced to 20 years in prison as part of a plea agreement," I'm guessing he survived the three shots to the chest.

Which is lucky for Adams; he probably would be facing a life sentence for felony murder if Hopkins had died.
Ah, I thought they meant he already had a record...clicking the link makes it clear it was for this crime, not a previous one.
 
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I mean, I would have just transferred it, then called the police, and pressed charges for armed robbery, breaking and entering, and grand theft of a domain name. Then, I would have had a court order GoDaddy to transfer the domain back to me as stolen property.

I woun't put money on any guarantees that Mr. Stable wavin' that gun around is going to leave any live witnesses though.
 
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Things you can't steal with a gun - anything you can't carry or drive away in/with.

- A domain name
- A skyscraper
- A house (unless you have access to a crane, a full crew and a big truck)
- A Whole Foods (just because shopping there might feel like you are being robbed, it is a one-way street, sorry)
- A democracy (well, time will tell)
 
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I mean, I would have just transferred it, then called the police, and pressed charges for armed robbery, breaking and entering, and grand theft of a domain name. Then, I would have had a court order GoDaddy to transfer the domain back to me as stolen property.
Dumbest part of it was that the victim WAS in the process of doing exactly that, until the gunman flipped out and threatened to blow his head off. At which point the victim got REALLY scared and tackled him for the gun.
 
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Wow, every single person in this story is an asshole.

Why is the victim an asshole? Is it because he wanted $20,000? Is it because he tried to disarm the attacker when he feared for his life?

It seems to me the victim was just chilling in his house and the assholes attacked him.

Maybe I am missing something.

The wording in the article is kind of ambiguous. The two ways I can understand the events between Idiot and Squatter:

1) Squatter had bought up domains ahead of time. Idiot decided they wanted one that Squatter owned, but did not like the price. => Idiot is totally in the wrong and an asshole, Squatter is fine.

2) Idiot owned the domain but did not renew in time, Squatter bought it as it expired then demanded Idiot pay 20,000 to get it back. => Idiot is totally in the wrong and an asshole, Squatter is also an asshole but a way lesser sort. In the same kind of way that cutting someone off makes you an asshole driver, but murdering someone for cutting you off is so out of proportionally worse that the original asshole move is a rounding error.
Meh. You've gotta be a special kind of stupid to not have auto-renew enabled with your registrar for domains you really care about. And this dolt is clearly that kind of stupid. People who get their domains squatted are just careless.
 
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Wow, what a douche. He deserves the prison time for sure.

But -- I don't get the decision to add on "court costs."

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"Adams had court-appointed counsel during trial, but the court later discovered Adams was earning significant amounts of money while the case was pending,"


I thought the whole "an attorney will be appointed for you if you can not or will not afford one" (or however that goes) meant that everyone was entitled to a public defender if they wanted it.

Justice -- even if it goes against you -- shouldn't carry a cost.

"You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law. You have the right to speak to an attorney, and to have an attorney present during any questioning. IF YOU CANNOT AFFORD A LAWYER, ONE WILL BE PROVIDED FOR YOU AT GOVERNMENT EXPENSE." The internet can be useful at times JFYI.
 
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Wow, what a douche. He deserves the prison time for sure.

But -- I don't get the decision to add on "court costs."

"Adams had court-appointed counsel during trial, but the court later discovered Adams was earning significant amounts of money while the case was pending,"

I thought the whole "an attorney will be appointed for you if you can not or will not afford one" (or however that goes) meant that everyone was entitled to a public defender if they wanted it.

Justice -- even if it goes against you -- shouldn't carry a cost.

Was curious myself and after some casual Googling it at least appears that the court is only constitutionally required to offer free legal representation if you cannot afford to cover the costs yourself. No mention of 'will'.

https://criminal.findlaw.com/criminal-r ... orney.html

Yeah, its part of the Miranda rights, I would expect anyone who has watched enough crime related TV from the 60s through whenever to know this.

“You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law. You have the right to an attorney. If you cannot afford an attorney, one will be provided for you."
 
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I mean, I would have just transferred it, then called the police, and pressed charges for armed robbery, breaking and entering, and grand theft of a domain name. Then, I would have had a court order GoDaddy to transfer the domain back to me as stolen property.
A domain name strikes me as a particularly stupid thing to steal. Domain names aren't tangible objects, nor are they decentralized crypto-nonsense like Bitcoin. You can't actually steal a domain name and get away with it, because the domain only exists in the authoritative DNS servers of the registry. Did this guy really think the registry would just say "aw, shucks, I guess it's his domain now!"

Exactly my point - he could steal it from me, but not keep it for long, so why would I risk my life resisting his demand? I'll just go through the motions of transferring it then file a police report. This is a crime that can't possibly succeed.

Assuming, having done the transfer, you aren't knocked off anyway to tie up a very obvious loose end.

Since that is the only way this scheme would have even a fart-in-a-hurricane's chance of working, the victim possibly assumed he was definitely dead if he complied, or possibly dead if he fought back.
 
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On a positive note a criminal was shot several times with his own gun. It sounds like the wounds nearly removed him from the gene pool.
I don't know...it doesn't say he died anywhere just that he "ended up suffering gunshot wounds".
Given that the story says he was "previously sentenced to 20 years in prison as part of a plea agreement," I'm guessing he survived the three shots to the chest.

Which is lucky for Adams; he probably would be facing a life sentence for felony murder if Hopkins had died.

Oops, confused Adams with victim, forget what I said.
 
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On a positive note a criminal was shot several times with his own gun. It sounds like the wounds nearly removed him from the gene pool.
I don't know...it doesn't say he died anywhere just that he "ended up suffering gunshot wounds".
Given that the story says he was "previously sentenced to 20 years in prison as part of a plea agreement," I'm guessing he survived the three shots to the chest.

Which is lucky for Adams; he probably would be facing a life sentence for felony murder if Hopkins had died.

Highly unlikely.

Violent home invader that pistol whipped you and shot you in the leg? You would have a reasonable fear of additional bodily injury. I suspect even in California under those conditions you'd be OK, but this is Iowa which has the castle doctrine, which would totally protect the home owner in this situation - the home owner could have shot the guy as soon as he came in the front door and been just fine.

Personally speaking, I'd have done the exact same thing, except maybe with better aim...

Nah, always go for 'center of mass'.
 
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[url=https://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=38385913#p38385913 said:
Given that the story says he was "previously sentenced to 20 years in prison as part of a plea agreement," I'm guessing he survived the three shots to the chest.

Which is lucky for Adams; he probably would be facing a life sentence for felony murder if Hopkins had died.

Highly unlikely.

Violent home invader that pistol whipped you and shot you in the leg? You would have a reasonable fear of additional bodily injury. I suspect even in California under those conditions you'd be OK, but this is Iowa which has the castle doctrine, which would totally protect the home owner in this situation - the home owner could have shot the guy as soon as he came in the front door and been just fine.

Personally speaking, I'd have done the exact same thing, except maybe with better aim...

In Iowa (and California) you are allowed to use deadly force to defend yourself from deadly force. Shot with a gun you brought in somebody else's house, and the guy that shot you has injuries from being pistol whipped is an ironclad defense, with or without castle doctrine laws.

Also in Iowa (and California and probably every other state) if you hire somebody to commit a felony and they wind up getting killed as a direct consequence of doing so, you will face prosecution for murder.

What not killing Hopkins did for the victim is it allowed him to have a live (if hostile) witness to establish that Adams had arranged the crime. Had he killed Hopkins, he might have had a much harder time proving that Adams was behind it and he could still be in danger.

Thus it's likely it's a lucky accident for everybody involved that Hopkins is still alive (most of all Hopkins). You don't shoot somebody several times in the chest expecting that they'll be around to testify at trial.

I think between the victim recognizing the voice on the call, the call records, the phone purchases, the blood relation between Adams and Hopkins, and the contact information given to transfer the account, it would have been a pretty slam-dunk case for felony murder against Adams even (necessarily) without Hopkins testifying.

That said, I imagine it was still lucky for the victim that Hopkins didn't die, both because it made the whole investigation easier, and because he doesn't have to live with killing someone (even in self defense).

But yeah, I certainly wasn't trying to imply that the homeowner would face any legal consequences if Hopkins had died. IANAL, but this reads as textbook self-defense to me.
 
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I mean, I would have just transferred it, then called the police, and pressed charges for armed robbery, breaking and entering, and grand theft of a domain name. Then, I would have had a court order GoDaddy to transfer the domain back to me as stolen property.
This being GoDaddy, it's unlikely you'd ever get it back, court order or otherwise.
 
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How could this have ended well for Adams? Surely he would be the prime suspect.

so strange, pantyhose on the head while you are giving the victim your contact details at gun point.

Yeah I'm beginning to suspect this guy wasn't making rational decisions.

On the bright side, if he runs for a state level elected position, he can use the slogan "dolt for state."

I wonder if he went to state prison.

Thanks folks I'll be here all week.
 
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Iowa State? Shame it wasn't Pen State, since he's now going to State Pen.


Someone should tell him that there are a bunch of new TLD's.......

The article actually prompted me to go check if there was a .state TLD, I'm not surprised there isn't with the potential for confusion with governmental sites, but there are plenty of other good options.
 
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