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F-Droid calls for regulators to stop Google’s crackdown on sideloading
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Sure, if your phone has no connectivity, including wifi or bluetooth, then install whatever you want.What if I put my phone in airplane mode or don't have it set to receive cellular service/e.g. no SIM card? In your eyes should I be able to do whatever I want with it, then?
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Even PCs should not be allowed to run everything the users wants if they are "connected devices".
The current state of the world indicates far too many people too unintelligent to be allowed with that capability.
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Even PCs should not be allowed to run everything the users wants if they are "connected devices".
Who decides what we should be allowed to run on our devices?
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gnasher729
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Your company can decide what you are allowed to run on devices that you bring into the workplace. The phone manufacturer may tell you that some application is likely to damage your phone and refuse to fix damage under warranty. Your bank may tell you that running some application will try to access your bank account, and they will refuse to help you with financial damages.Who decides what we should be allowed to run on our devices?
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Your company can decide what you are allowed to run on devices that you bring into the workplace. The phone manufacturer may tell you that some application is likely to damage your phone and refuse to fix damage under warranty. Your bank may tell you that running some application will try to access your bank account, and they will refuse to help you with financial damages.
My company can decide what I'm allowed to run on a device that it owns. If it's my device, they can fuck off.
In the US, the phone manufacturer does not have the right to do that under the Magnuson-Moss warranty act. They would have to prove that said app actually caused damage to the phone in order to deny coverage.
As for the latter, I've never heard of such a thing.
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Dark Jaguar
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What "state of the world" are you referring to? No, I reject that entirely. We should in fact be allowed to install whatever we want. What are you suggesting, a state authority? Outlawing Linux/Unix perhaps?Sure, if your phone has no connectivity, including wifi or bluetooth, then install whatever you want.
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Even PCs should not be allowed to run everything the users wants if they are "connected devices".
The current state of the world indicates far too many people too unintelligent to be allowed with that capability.
In fact, the current state of the world REQUIRES unapproved apps such as this:
https://meincmagazine.com/tech-policy...nd-to-remove-ice-tracking-apps-like-iceblock/
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gnasher729
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It’s your device. If it’s a risk for the company, they can tell you not to bring it on company grounds.My company can decide what I'm allowed to run on a device that it owns. If it's my device, they can fuck off.
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Dark Jaguar
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You keep saying "risk", but when you say being able to load software outside a device's store is "a risk", you may as well be saying being able to buy things from thrift stores or homemade things is also "a risk" and shouldn't be allowed.It’s your device. If it’s a risk for the company, they can tell you not to bring it on company grounds.
And you have yet to establish that it's ANY safer downloading software from Google's own store, when it's riddled with malware as it is.
We're allowed to take risks. If a bot net emerges, the government can take necessary actions to shut down that bot net. We're not "endangering the net" because we can install our own software. Some of us MAKE our own software, and you seem to be suggesting we MUST get it certified before we can even continue running the software WE program for our OWN use.
Get out of here with this. This is far too restrictive for your sense of "safety" to matter, like at all. I don't care if you're uncomfortable with it. It's not your business. It's ONLY your business IF and WHEN ACTUAL MALWARE is discovered. You get to complain about SPECIFIC software. You don't get to complain about the mere existence of "unapproved" software. Freedom isn't safe. Deal with it.
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