Amid RFK Jr.'s anti-vaccine agenda, Moderna withdrew its FDA application last year.
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Europe—not US—first to authorize Moderna’s combo mRNA flu-COVID vaccine
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I’m tired of living in this shit hole country. In my lifetime we have gone from being the place everyone wants to live to an international pariah. Only Republicans could accomplish this monumental task. All you have to do is deny science, attack your neighbors and friends, start completely unnecessary wars, raid the treasury and elevate criminals and pedophiles to the highest office.
Mission Accomplished, I guess..
Mission Accomplished, I guess..
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Welcome to the United Shithole of America. Will the Seppos ever learn?
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What's amazing to me here is if you go to Pew or Gallup and the like and look at the data, most people who identify as right wing in the US report that the country's reputation and global standing has improved dramatically since Trump took office. They've done that with previous Republican presidents but not to the same degree. Meanwhile those same investigations done in other countries, allies and not-so-allied alike, find that the perception of the US around the world has declined dramatically with Trump's presidency.
Here's one from last year, before the recent spate of warmongering:
https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2025/06/11/us-image-declines-in-many-nations-amid-low-confidence-in-trump
The only exceptions to dramatic decline were Israel and Hungary under Orban's controlled media space, and Nigeria.
And here's Gallup showing that, globally, China is now perceived more positively than the US:
https://news.gallup.com/poll/707945/china-edges-past-global-approval-ratings.aspx
And it seems to go that way with everything. Self-identified conservatives in these sorts of studies also report that the US is more environmentally friendly (though with smaller majorities) under Trump while Trump guts the EPA, bans federal climate research and many forms of pollution and health monitoring, forces old coal plants to stay open against locals' wishes and at extra cost to local tax payers, and posts AI-generated Coalie propaganda: https://www.eenews.net/articles/trump-unveils-cartoon-mascot-coalie-while-slashing-staff-rules.
It's identity politics and pure spite, and it's a political framework that demands delusion to be adherent.
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I suspect UK approval will come quickly too. We largely follow EU guidance, despite what the brexit flag shagging morons like to think.
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YES! This means we can now use our HSA dollars for a tax free European vacation every fall!
*IANAL & YMMV
*IANAL & YMMV
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Yea, but also most of that international-desire to live in the USA was based on scammy used-car salesman tactics, totally distorting how thing are here.
Medical tourism? That thing Americans do, because they can't afford domestic for-profit privatized healthcare? It has been a thing for decades. Endemic racism? It has been a thing forever--African leaders coming to the USA faced it to come here to do diplomacy prior to Brown. I have farmer relations who for 60 years have said things, at home, about Civil Rights leaders that if I retyped would probably get me banned--they just kept it quiet in public.
What is new? Being loud and proud about being a bigoted jerk--rather than hiding behind pretense.
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Here is hoping Canada will get it soon too.
Edited: Also does this mean USA will never see the RNA vaccine for Pancreatic Cancer if GOP is in power? Heard the Phase 1 clinical trial went very very well.
Edited: Also does this mean USA will never see the RNA vaccine for Pancreatic Cancer if GOP is in power? Heard the Phase 1 clinical trial went very very well.
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Yeah but have they authorized ivermectin yet? No?
Check. Mate. Suck it libtards!
Check. Mate. Suck it libtards!
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I think the issue here is how respondents view "reputation and global standing". One group could view respect and admiration as positive while the other could view fear and capitulation as positive.
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I might also add that there is likely fair amount of individuals who like to signal their loyalty to their peer group by loudly ignoring inconvenient information.
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Looks like it’s under review in Canada submitted Jan 2026 by Moderna Biopharm Canada so presumably it will be available soon.
“mRNA encoding haemagglutinin of B/Victoria lineage, haemagglutinin of influenza A/H1N1, haemagglutinin of influenza A/H3N2, SARS-CoV-2 spike protein NTD-RBD subdomains.”
Absolutely astounding the ignorance and denial of Science in the US conspiracy theories about mRNA.
“mRNA encoding haemagglutinin of B/Victoria lineage, haemagglutinin of influenza A/H1N1, haemagglutinin of influenza A/H3N2, SARS-CoV-2 spike protein NTD-RBD subdomains.”
Absolutely astounding the ignorance and denial of Science in the US conspiracy theories about mRNA.
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You get your vaccines in both arms? Man, someone hates you. They can definitely poke you with two in the same arm.
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The only time I've had shots in both arms is when I got three vaccine doses in the same appointment.
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I got my flu and COVID both in the same arm every time I've gotten them together, I'm pretty sure.
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I wonder how costly it will be. My company offers the flu shot every year but the usual, old-school vaccines (from GSK and Sanofi I believe) are quite cheap here. Not sure they will upgrade already. And the COVID shot is completely free.
Anyway I might choose to pay for the Moderna option, a single shot and better flu protection are appealing.
Anyway I might choose to pay for the Moderna option, a single shot and better flu protection are appealing.
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Living close to the Canadian border I've already said I will 100% be taking the 2 hour trip if I can't get COVID or flu vaccines in the next 3 years.
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The advice the first fall was to get them in different arms so that if you had an allergic reaction they knew which one caused it. It was ultimately up to the patient, but I thought the advice made sense, since I know neither gives me issues I now get them in the same arm.
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Hopefully Health Canada completes their review and approved this too. We have family close enough to the boarder that we could visit and make the two hour drive if needed. We planned to last year when it looked like the COVID vaccine by itself wouldn't be allowed. I miss being proud of this country's medical and vaccine achievements 
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One shot per arm is still standard practice where I live. The "flu shot arm" is always the sore one, FWIW.
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I got the pfiser covid and annual flu shot in the same arm. The flu shot didn't make it ache any more than just covid.
Then I made the mistake of getting a covid and TDAP in the same arm. That did ache quite a bit more, and they were different aches. I want separate arms if I do that again.
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At the rate we're going, we'll be lucky if there's affordable/legal international travel in the near future.
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YetAnotherAnonymousAppellation
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You might be disappointed. The Canadian and various provincial governments have stated that vaccines may only be available to Canadian residents to prevent shortages.
In BC, most vaccines are free, but you must show your BC Services card to get them. I don't know if there is a user-pay option.
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SubWoofer2
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Discussion of timelines. A million unnecessarily dead people might have had something to say about this, but won't, what with being dead and all.
Good luck! We actually need a sane USA, not a broken one.
Good luck! We actually need a sane USA, not a broken one.
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YetAnotherAnonymousAppellation
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I always do both in the same arm. I'm a side sleeper so that way I'm assured to have one arm that will tolerate me laying on it.
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"There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has
always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a
constant thread winding its way through our political and
cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy
means that "my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."
Isaac Asimov
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RIP Uncle. Was over a decade ago but at the end he said F the chemo and went off to Sturgis for one last trip. Retired and figured I got my last COVID shot that I could get earlier this month. I guess it will be UV, bleach, and veterinary science if RFK jr is still around.
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The achey arm (and fever/chills if you get them) are absolutely nothing in the overall scheme.
We are so fortunate to have vaccines.
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I hope Australia hurries up, seeing as we now have a Moderna plant in Victoria that produces vaccines. My wife still got the double-shot, and I got Covid and Flu 2 weeks apart (because the latter was offered by work for free).
Was somewhat surprised, in light of said plant, that this year's Covid shot was Pfizer, for the first time in like 3 years. I was apprehensive because last time I got a Pfizer one, I was feeling crap for a week, whereas Moderna barely have me a sore arm. Interestingly enough, I had so little effects this time that I was joking about them only having injected saline.
Was somewhat surprised, in light of said plant, that this year's Covid shot was Pfizer, for the first time in like 3 years. I was apprehensive because last time I got a Pfizer one, I was feeling crap for a week, whereas Moderna barely have me a sore arm. Interestingly enough, I had so little effects this time that I was joking about them only having injected saline.
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Phase 2 isn't due to end until 2031, so plenty of time for get rid of Bobby Brainworm.
For those getting excited, it's not a preventative, it's a post-surgery treatment vaccine. So you're in the 20% worth sending to surgery, and then:
"Among the 16 participants, 8 showed a significant T-cell immune response following vaccination. The long-term follow-up data presented at the American Association for Cancer Research Annual Meeting showed that 6 out of the 8 patients who responded to the vaccine remained alive at 6 years of follow-up."
So 6 of 16 (38%) of 20% survival rate. Much better than the current 13% of 20%, but a long way to go
It's also customised for each patient, so $$$ I'm guessing.
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