Elon Musk, Twitter’s next owner, provides his definition of “free speech”

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Especially when a few weeks later, Joe Biden reached out to then-Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko asking him to remove the prosecutor that was involved in the Burisma investigation.

I love how you try to frame this as something Joe did by himself, instead of it being a Governmental decision that had the backing of the entire EU behind it.
 
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Why is it that all right wingers sell snake oil?
Because to be right wing, it's a requirement thst you have to be pig-ignorant and easily led. It's self-selection as an easy mark for scammers.

As evidenced by the Tangerine Tantrum. His one and only skill (and he's very good at it, to give credit where it's due) is gulling the gullible.
 
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Reminder: It was the US State Department that wanted the prosecutor gone, because the prosecutor was corrupt and not investigating.


But that little fact isn't convenient to the lemmings' narrative.

Pretty much the entire EU also wanted him gone. Anyone trying to make out that it was something Joe did by himself is either a liar or a fool.
 
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One cannot put a price on the outrage, the woke outrage on display in this Arstechnica forum. It’s epic and I must say quite enjoyable to read.
Musk lives rent free in the minds of these woke people.

Arstechnica. Super woke. Super fly-woke.

Yes. The Woketard blah blah twatwaffle blah...

Do you have an actual point, or are you saving it for a special occasion?
 
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So given that Musk has already violated the terms of the acquisition agreement, do we think the board is still going to take the ludicrously over-valued payday, or will they drag this out to the last day and go "Oh, my goodness, you appear to have violated the terms of the agreement. We'll be leaving now, with that one billion you owe us. Ta ta, darling!"?

It would be nice to think they'd cease the acquisition but as I noted in the other thread, money and morals seldom mix.
 
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what I constantly miss in this discussion, is his statement that "everybody is going to be a registered user" (or something in that direction) -> Which I, as a European, interpret as "no anonimous bullshit allowed".

When that's a fact, people will automatically be responsible for their "free speech". As well as companies, which -absurdidly- are considered "people" as well, in USA law.
Elon will never give up his bot followers. Any statements to the contrary are lies.

I'm not sure he needs them though - he has more than enough brainwashed followers who seem to think he's a real-world Tony Stark.
 
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I'm not sure he needs them though - he has more than enough brainwashed followers who seem to think he's a real-world Tony Stark.

I've said it before and I'll say it again; he's just a more successful Justin Hammer at best.

Yep. Perfect analogy.

Given Justin Hammer's utter incompetence at providing useful tech, wouldn't Obadiah Stane be a better fit?

Hammer was an egotistical cockwomble with a massive chip on his shoulder whose tech worked about as well as FSD does.
 
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Everyone knows it's the purple one! 🙄

I have two and a half degrees myself, and I will stand by red being the best tasting until I die.

Wait, I missed something. If we are talking M&Ms, everyone knows the green ones are the best.

Would you be surprised to find we're actually talking about Crayons?

I told you I missed something.

My vote goes to Burnt Umber.

Wild Strawberry.

Philistines, the lot of you.
 
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The bots that Hammer develops with Vanko don't try to take over the world.

And put up a good fight against Iron Man and War Machine.

Pretty good analogy - the bots were good because Hammer hired someone that knew what they were doing, not because Hammer himself did.
 
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Especially when a few weeks later, Joe Biden reached out to then-Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko asking him to remove the prosecutor that was involved in the Burisma investigation.

I love how you try to frame this as something Joe did by himself, instead of it being a Governmental decision that had the backing of the entire EU behind it.
Wasn't the whole reason the whole EU backed it was because he was known to be corrupt and pro-Burisma and hindering the investigation, so removing him was what Burisma did not want?

Yep.
 
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In another tweet after completing his deal with the Twitter board, Musk wrote that "Truth Social is currently beating Twitter & TikTok on the Apple Store,"
And while that sounds amazing to someone who is dumb, Truth Social is estimated to have barely more than a half million daily active users. Twitter has more than 200 million DAUs as of Q4 of last year with TikTok at around 50 million in the US alone.

Well... yeah.

Most anyone who wants to use Twitter or TikTok already has it. Almost all daily downloads will be due to device repacements.

Truth Social downloads are going to be mostly interested-but-don't-have-it downloads.

Measuring the usefulness of a site based on its mobile app downloads is measuring something useless.
Wasn't Parler at the top of the downloads for a day or two way back? Looks like yes: https://fortune.com/2020/11/09/parler-c ... oaded-app/

And how many active users does it have now?

Dozens.
 
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If I am to take this seriously, you expect that something this trifling is useful in arguing Elon Musk is hypocritical about free speech?

You mean, apart from the fact that it conclusively proves he's a hypocrite?

Musk: claims he wants free speech without consequences except where dictated by law.
Also Musk: Cancels a guy's order because guy said mean things about him.

So either he's a hypocrite, or there's some law that says you can't say mean things about him.

Which is it?
 
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He said he is buying Coca Cola next and putting cocaine back in it. Now the libs have a reason to support him too.
No we don't. (Also... "libs"? Really? Grow up.)
Relax, why so serious?. You guys may have lost Twitter but still have Reddit and FB to go virtue signal on.

We haven't 'lost' anything, child. Musk does not own Twitter yet, and may never do so. And even if he does eventually own it I bet that most people will stick around until conditions dictate otherwise, assuming they ever do.

Sorry if that wasn't as 'triggered' as you obviously wanted, but tough.
 
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A lot of people got banned. Some like Pewdiepie got their account back but again, being censored over a tiny spicy comment is stupid and not democratic at all.

Twitter isn't a democracy. When you sign up to Twitter you agree to terms of service, some of which are to do with how you comport yourself on their platform. Break those terms and they can (and will) ban your sorry arse.

So, again, cite examples of what you want to say on Twitter but feel you currently cannot.
 
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If you poor saps can't detect the hysteria in your reactions you're pretty out of touch with yourselves.

I did call you all insecure virgins, so you got me on that.

As far as immaturity, it takes courage, maturity and some authentic confidence in your moral posture to encounter disagreement and grow from the process.

If you withdraw from the world into a bubble, you stagnate and never live up to your potential.

Personally I don't care if you live up to your potential, but for your own sake you should consider trying.

Did that little display of impotent chest-thumping sound good in your head?
 
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A lot of people got banned. Some like Pewdiepie got their account back but again, being censored over a tiny spicy comment is stupid and not democratic at all.

Banned for doing what?

And you didn't answer the question why "oversensitive morons" don't have the right to free speech as well.
Never said they didn't, what I did say is that they shouldn't have the right to have others banned over anything they find offensive.

Specific examples of which you have still yet to cite.
 
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If you poor saps can't detect the hysteria in your reactions you're pretty out of touch with yourselves.

I did call you all insecure virgins, so you got me on that.

As far as immaturity, it takes courage, maturity and some authentic confidence in your moral posture to encounter disagreement and grow from the process.

If you withdraw from the world into a bubble, you stagnate and never live up to your potential.

Personally I don't care if you live up to your potential, but for your own sake you should consider trying.

Did that little display of impotent chest-thumping sound good in your head?

Yep. Did it not sound good in what passes for your head?

I used the term 'impotent' for your screed intentionally.
 
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But you don't care about democracy, only security. And sadly, you need protection from words, so you're security needs are gigantic.

It would help if you would cite specific examples of things you want to say but feel you can't. You have yet to do so.

Or you could just continue to act like a third-rate Citizen Smith if you want. Your call.
 
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I'm short, fat, I'm in my forties, I'm not white and I don't have much testosterone really.

Your physical attributes are a matter of supreme indifference to us.

On the contrary, I am fascinated to learn that he views being non-white as a sign of weakness.

Oh, his(?*) mental state is rather interesting, I agree.



* all the stated attributes could apply equally to a woman as to a man.
 
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But you don't care about democracy, only security. And sadly, you need protection from words, so you're security needs are gigantic.

It would help if you would cite specific examples of things you want to say but feel you can't. You have yet to do so.

Or you could just continue to act like a third-rate Citizen Smith if you want. Your call.

Well, the Hunter Biden laptop comes to mind.

You aren't going to get banned for posting more third-rate fiction about a private citizen.

Again, what is it *you* want to say on Twitter that you feel you cannot?
 
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