Elon Musk tries again to escape FTC audits of X data handling

Fatesrider

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According to Musk, the FTC should stop its monitoring because Twitter no longer exists, as X was merged into xAI, and then xAI was folded into SpaceX. Musk also argues that since none of the leadership or engineers responsible for the two-factor authentication error remain at the company, and “X has since built a world-class privacy and data-protection program” that protects consumers, the FTC doesn’t have to intervene anymore.
Any company using this kind of bullshit reasoning should be put under a microscope and remain there indefinitely, or until there's a change in ownership.
 
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KrookedRooster

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So by this logic anytime something materially, or even on paper, changes it no longer "exists" so can't be held to prior established rules.

In that case my wife should have changed her name because then all the documents she signed as her maiden name are false because she doesn't exist anymore! Would be saving so much in student loans!

No?

Play by the rules then.
 
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X claimed that allowing the FTC to maintain the order would chill speech on X, because it supposedly “creates a permanent mechanism through which future regulators can pressure the Company over the viewpoints it hosts.”
How dare they! Only Musk should be allowed to chill free speech on X.
 
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If the GDPR requirements and EU regulators need the same information, then preparing it for the FTC is not "duplicate" effort for X because they should already have the work done when the FTC asks for it.
There you go again. Making sense and all that jazz!
 
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graylshaped

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“No one was responsible for about 37 percent of X Corp.’s privacy program controls,” the FTC argued.
With X Corp having been ingested by SpaceX, remember, kids: Musk claims he and he alone has authority over SpaceX, meaning he personally is liable for any and all failures of the company to meet legal obligations.
 
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Basil Wrathbone

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Until the whorehouse Americans call the U.S. Congress is persuaded that digital privacy must be legislated and enforced as a basic human right, large corporations will do whatever they like with our data, and by extension, with us.

It couldn't be simpler. It couldn't be more difficult. At a social level, restoring a corrupt government is one of the greatest challenges people ever face, but it's one of those dirty jobs that only becomes dirtier the more Americans procrastinate.
 
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If you don't seize the machinery and denaturalize Elon Musk before it's all fixed from MAGA's fingerprints, nothing you do to his corporations is going to matter.

It's just that black and white. There are institutional issues that need addressing, but DOGE already proved he is an institutional obstacle to reform even outside of the political system.
 
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Hydrargyrum

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If the GDPR requirements and EU regulators need the same information, then preparing it for the FTC is not "duplicate" effort for X because they should already have the work done when the FTC asks for it.
Indeed. This petition contains a bunch of mutually contradictory arguments. If GDPR compliance is "duplicative", then the amount of engineering resources required to fulfill the FTC's oversight are near-zero - so therefore the argument that FTC oversight contradict's Trump's pro-AI order is void.
 
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If the GDPR requirements and EU regulators need the same information, then preparing it for the FTC is not "duplicate" effort for X because they should already have the work done when the FTC asks for it.
That's true, but the perverse thing about this "duplicate effort" argument is that Musk's X isn't complying with EU filing and disclosure requirements either.

https://www.nbcnews.com/world/europ...content-regulations-misinformation-rcna247498

But then, I suppose, mathematically, zero equals zero, so it is, technically, a duplication.
 
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Space Filling

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No matter how good the current data protection processes and procedures might be, I'd still want this safeguard simply because he's trying to use the "The data was held by my company that I merged into another of my companies and as it doesn't exist anymore I can't be responsible" argument.
 
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KenM

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If the GDPR requirements and EU regulators need the same information, then preparing it for the FTC is not "duplicate" effort for X because they should already have the work done when the FTC asks for it.
Well, no, now they'd have to do it for all the US users, and we all know they're a bunch of sheep that need tending by ICE...

/s
 
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traumadog

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Any company using this kind of bullshit reasoning should be put under a microscope and remain there indefinitely, or until there's a change in ownership.
Most laws governing mergers and acquisitions cover this because the “we are a different company and therefore not liable” is too easy a thing to pull off.
 
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traumadog

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Until the whorehouse Americans call the U.S. Congress is persuaded that digital privacy must be legislated and enforced as a basic human right, large corporations will do whatever they like with our data, and by extension, with us.

It couldn't be simpler. It couldn't be more difficult. At a social level, restoring a corrupt government is one of the greatest challenges people ever face, but it's one of those dirty jobs that only becomes dirtier the more Americans procrastinate.
A lot of the issues are structural - and absent a complete overhaul of the elections process/eliminating gerrymandering “safe districts” - we won’t likely see a fix anytime soon.

Honestly, true population representation in the House should be provided by a state-wide election of individuals - where the top “n” vote-getters in a rank-choice system are the States representatives. Not a “district by district” thing.
 
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The most substantive comment so far came from William Pate II, who argued that X's merger should not be a reason to drop the order. Rather, the FTC's monitoring of X data handling only becomes more critical, since the combined entity likely has "strong commercial incentives to train AI on user data."
Expect xAI to greet you with a hearty "Sieg Heil" every morning.
 
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