Election conspiracist Mike Lindell must pay $5M to expert who proved him wrong
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It's taken some time, but I think we've finally reached the "Find Out" portion of these sagas.
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Mike made a deal in bad faith, and refused to pay up when the other side met their side of the agreement.
Trump would be proud.
Trump would be proud.
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The My Pillow guy finally faces the music, Starship has a spectacular first test flight, and it’s 72° and sunny outside where I am.
Today was a good day.
Today was a good day.
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I was just wondering the other day who the fuck is buying all these weird pillows? This giant clown is apparently the number one advertiser on Fox News. And sure, it's a hive of scum and villainy but they're still relatively successful as far as cable networks go, so clearly people are buying the stupid things.
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They take up a large portion of my local Ollie's. For those unfamiliar, Ollie's specializes in buying stuff from other retailers when the other retailers need shelf space, and keep lowering the price until the products finally move.
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When the right makes any statement and loses, it's always never their fault, is it? Even when overwhelming evidence (or lack thereof) proves conservatives wrong, they all scream about censorship or bribes or whatever.
I'm glad to see a right-winger open his mouth and get told to shut the fuck up and pay up. Though I'm willing to bet Lindell will make some excuse and try for bankruptcy or other financial shenanigans to dodge the payment. Dirty rats.
I'm glad to see a right-winger open his mouth and get told to shut the fuck up and pay up. Though I'm willing to bet Lindell will make some excuse and try for bankruptcy or other financial shenanigans to dodge the payment. Dirty rats.
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That organization that has information about Medicare options available in your ZIP code must also be loaded!
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AmanoJyaku
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I would buy this guy a beer. Even if he gets the $5M and doesn't need the beer money I need to buy him a beer.
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Another odd wrinkle to this story, per WaPo:
So not only is he trying to argue "no one can possibly prove this random set of data is unrelated to the election (because there's still a chance!)", but he's also arguing the contestant can't prove Lindell's data was unrelated because he didn't actually share the real data.
Also, he shouldn't have to uphold his end of the contest bargain because... someone touched him.
Just boggles the mind.
So not only is he trying to argue "no one can possibly prove this random set of data is unrelated to the election (because there's still a chance!)", but he's also arguing the contestant can't prove Lindell's data was unrelated because he didn't actually share the real data.
Also, he shouldn't have to uphold his end of the contest bargain because... someone touched him.
Just boggles the mind.
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Why couldn't Lindell just provide the actual proof instead of giving him files that had to be decoded? A video on how to decode it with a utility that the guy does not have access to? WTF is this? A file with a list of Chinese IP addresses? How is the guy supposed to know where these came from? Just give the man the pcap data to make the determination. I knew pillow boy was full of it, but this was even more than I expected.
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We've covered stories related to voting technology for years. Here is one from 17 years ago for example:
https://meincmagazine.com/tech-policy/2006/11/8223/
If you aren't interested you can not click the stories to read them!
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"Look at all this electrician fraud data! Miles of files! Suspicious numbers left and right! Who understands numbers? THE CHINESE! Again, look at all of this electribriation fraud data!"
"Sir, this is a crayon drawing of a magician screaming at what we assume to be magic mushrooms, these files are empty .txt files, those numbers are the last 4 digits of phone numbers from a Detroit Municipal phone book dated 1967, that statement is mildly (at least) xenophobic, and this is a Wendy's. Your order will be $18.73"
"Sir, this is a crayon drawing of a magician screaming at what we assume to be magic mushrooms, these files are empty .txt files, those numbers are the last 4 digits of phone numbers from a Detroit Municipal phone book dated 1967, that statement is mildly (at least) xenophobic, and this is a Wendy's. Your order will be $18.73"
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Following the Dominion settlement, there has been a lot of analysis about Fox's income. Apparently very little of it is from advertising. The bulk of that income is from "carriage fees" that cable and satellite television carriers pay to be able to include the network in their channel lineup. Based on that, I wouldn't necessarily come to the conclusion that Fox News' success as a cable network implies high sales of pillows. It's still a possibility, but it's also possible that My Pillow is steadily depleting whatever cash reserves it has to sustain their advertising campaign, in the desperate hopes that sales might turn around at some point. I suppose time will tell.
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AmanoJyaku
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An electronic device was accused of being intentionally sabotaged, and electronic data was used to disprove this claim, and you think this is solely about politics?
For that matter, did you miss today's apolitical articles on Starship, roundworms, Imgur, Tesla, and Google?
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Jon does excellent reporting, but my favorite detail about this whole story came from the Washington Post coverage I read earlier.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/2023/04/20/mike-lindell-prove-wrong-contest/
Selfie assault, a clear sign the government is tampering with your data!
Edit: Damnit ninja'd by @Meadian !
https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/2023/04/20/mike-lindell-prove-wrong-contest/
Selfie assault, a clear sign the government is tampering with your data!
Edit: Damnit ninja'd by @Meadian !
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He literally bet $5 million that someone couldn't look at his gibberish files and say it's gibberish? This doesn't sound like anything you'd have to be an election expert to decipher.
How do people this stupid get to be rich enough to lose fortunes in the first place?
How do people this stupid get to be rich enough to lose fortunes in the first place?
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“I am obviously really happy about the arbitrators' decision," Zeidman said in a press release issued by his lawyers.”
Fuck yeah you are bro!
Prolly got which Porsche you want already on order (I would).
Fuck yeah you are bro!
Prolly got which Porsche you want already on order (I would).
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Somebody better tell Mr. Mike and CPAC that their signage is 4/7 of the colors of the rainbow.
ROYGBIV
ROYGBIV
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I can just imagine it now: $5,000,000 "worth" of My Pillows showing up at Robert Zeidman's front door.
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I'm with you other than the weather. I have 42 right now and snow with 30mph+ winds in the overnight forecast. (This "spring" has been the worst.)
Now all we need is another Fox News settlement and we have another notch higher!
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Ah, yes, such a nexus of success. When arbitrators won’t polish your garbage, try a judge as sanitation specialist!
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And he wants to drag his feet by relitigating. The Padawan has learned well.
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Republicans: Well I'm Sorry If Paying Off Exorbitant Student Loans Leads To Poverty But One Must Honor Ones' Obligations, You Know
also Republicans: I, LEX LUTHOR, REFUSE TO PAY A PALTRY AMOUNT I LOST FAIR AND SQUARE BECAUSE. UM. I DON'T PARTICULARLY WANT TO
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When you get schooled by a 2 time Trump voter, you might want to reconsider your existence.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/2023/04/20/mike-lindell-prove-wrong-contest
https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/2023/04/20/mike-lindell-prove-wrong-contest
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but this one might be the most maddening:
Fox’s Massive Dominion Settlement Is Tax Deductible
Just think about it: We are paying to have our democracy destroyed.
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A few years back I saw him on Anderson Cooper's show at a friend's house and I remember Lindell quipping that Cooper probably sleeps on one of his pillows and Cooper just kind saying "uhh, no" before moving on. Made me think he either has an inflated view of the reach of his product, he sold just an absolute shitload, or maybe a little of both.
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