DOJ sues states that rejected ICE requests for undercover license plates
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scortiusthecharioteer
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You signed up to do the job. You applied. You wanted this. So show your faces. Cowards. The fuck your feelings crowd sure always has a lot of them.
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"DEFEND THE HOMELAND"
Why Nazi shaped if not Nazi? The unrepentant fascist aesthetic and execution would be comically satirical if written by anybody but God.
Why Nazi shaped if not Nazi? The unrepentant fascist aesthetic and execution would be comically satirical if written by anybody but God.
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Even prior to this administration, even if they operated above board, ICE would be disqualified under these guidelines. They're not actually a criminal law enforcement agency, they're civil law enforcement. Yes, they act like criminal law enforcement, arrest people like criminal law enforcement, and they really should be categorized as criminal law enforcement, but they are civil law enforcement despite that being a flagrant violation of our constitution.
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LOL I like that. I would get a bumper sticker if it wasn't for MAGA probably breaking my car window.
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I was just at Combo Breaker, the annual (and largest independent) fighting game event of the year. Always a good time. Lots of artist booths, and I found a sticker I simply had to have.
It's a Moment 37 reference.
The fighting game community has been targeted by ICE, and resisted successfully. We're stronger together.
https://wapo.st/4ebRsCp (gift link)
It's a Moment 37 reference.
The fighting game community has been targeted by ICE, and resisted successfully. We're stronger together.
https://wapo.st/4ebRsCp (gift link)
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Seriously. Between a budget rivaling most nation's entire militaries, pay bonuses that make police overtime look cheap AND general immunity from prosecution for doing whatever the hell you want, complaining that the public is allowed to keep tabs on you is peak crybaby behavior.
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I am salivating at the thought of normalcy returning (somehow) and watching these dumb fucking animals sobbing and trying to apologize as they're arrested for their disgusting crimes over these last few years.
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Meanwhile they also want unfettered access to facial recognition cameras and license plate readers at all times.
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The American Gestapo thrives on being hidden from the masses. The only reason Germany's Gestapo didn't need this as by the time the Gestapo was in full force no one would dare complain for fear of disappearing. We aren't there yet but The Orange Shit Stain still has 2.5 years to more fully implement it with the help of his SCOTUS.
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No no no. Wrong term. Use what Republicans like to use. Stop being such delicate snowflakes.
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ICE didn't exist for the majority of my life, so I'd consider that period to be normalcy, but even after they were created, what they did (which was awful, I agree) pales in comparison to what they do under Trump. Let's not pretend this magnitude of abuse was happening before him, because it absolutely wasn't.
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scortiusthecharioteer
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What will happen is nothing. We'll need to "heal and move forward" or some other bland slogan that yet again as we've been doing for decades, or even centuries, sweeping the atrocities and crimes under the rug, and treat the perpetrators like they were just momentarily insane, or led astray, and just need to be able to go about the rest of their lives consequence free. Maybe they shouldn't serve in government again. Prison? please, these are all socialist fantasies of accountability.
We've been letting these monsters off the hook since Reconstruction. We don't do any real self examination, or mea culpas.
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The difference between a legitimate government agency and a criminal organization is directly proportional to how easily they're publicly identified when doing their thing.
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chaos215bar2
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Is the federal government not allowed to register vehicles? Why would individual ICE agents have their personal information tied in any way to license plates being used by government vehicles?
Sounds to me like someone decided to take some shortcuts in registering unmarked vehicles so they could ambush unsuspecting civilians, and now they're complaining about the consequences of not bothering to do things properly. There's no reason ICE should require special undercover plates which can't be found via a standard vehicle registration search.
And it's not as if any random person can just lookup someone's home address based on a license plate anyway. That requires special access to the state's DMV system. Otherwise there would absolutely be incidents of road rage turning into property damage or worse all the time.
Sounds to me like someone decided to take some shortcuts in registering unmarked vehicles so they could ambush unsuspecting civilians, and now they're complaining about the consequences of not bothering to do things properly. There's no reason ICE should require special undercover plates which can't be found via a standard vehicle registration search.
And it's not as if any random person can just lookup someone's home address based on a license plate anyway. That requires special access to the state's DMV system. Otherwise there would absolutely be incidents of road rage turning into property damage or worse all the time.
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The statistic came from me
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If I turn up the volume, the song lyrics stay the same.
ICE has existed since 2002. The most radical political push back against them so far has been to demand they follow existing law. There is absolutely no political will to abolish ICE at the national stage. The existence of the agency is completely and thoroughly normalized.
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Mea culpa. I was one of those people who shrugged off the State spyware potential of ALRs and Surveillance Scarecrows. And, here we are. Orwell--you were right
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Yeah, I know. You don't have to convince me. I'm saying they're worse under Trump than they've ever been. It's not even debatable.
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I have some hopes for the worst offenders. See state level charges that are being brought and investigations happening. Most of them won't be, I have little doubt of that, but I am hopeful that at least the worst, will face accountability. As well as the political appointees that ordered and encouraged it.
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Words are for those that are capable of reading. Likely rules out 90% of their recent hires, including whoever slapped those indecipherable vinyl squiggles on the back.
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Actually not centered. You can tell because the license plate is centered.
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Man, invasive tracking sure does suck, right guys? Just as well the federal government aren't bankrolling private companies to invasively track as many humans as they can get away with.
You'll forgive me if I don't get up to look for my sympathy for them, I appear to have misplaced it down the toilet.
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I'm not arguing the scale isn't larger, I'm arguing that the nature of ICE hasn't changed an inch. Returning to normal just means ICE gets scaled slightly back and the abuse continues at a lower temperature.
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It's as if our government has reviewed the Nuremberg trials, printed out the causes of action, and said "Oh, here are some good ideas, let's do those - and that one - and those, too".
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You'd be right if you weren't talking about ICE specifically. ICE was a consolidation of various anciencies that was formed in the wake of 9/11. The unconstitutional laws that grant them their unique tyranny go further back. We do actually teach kids about the actions of ICE's predecessor, the INS, which was responsible for the Japanese internment camps we had in WWII.
INS was never really a good organization, but they weren't as bad as ICE and weren't at the forefront of "abusing and murdering undesirables" for most of their history.
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They reviewed the Nuremberg trials and highlighted the fact that Germany didn't put themselves on trial.
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The issue is the federal government wants to have standard plates on official vehicles instead of federal government plates, making it harder for the public to identify vehicles as federally owned. It has nothing to do with doxxing workers, as the vehicles are registered in the federal government name. If I see a vehicle with Fed plates kidnap someone on the side of the road, I'll be able to see that and know its ICE. If I see a vehicle with standard Oregon plates (in Oregon) grab someone, I don't know for sure if it's ICE or not.
It's about hiding from accountability while the feds, at the same time, want cameras tracking everyone everywhere. If you don't want to be tracked, you get ridiculed with "oh why does that matter if you have nothing to hide".
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Just start issuing license plates again.
I suggest "iceagent1, iceagent2, iceagent3, and so on.
I suggest "iceagent1, iceagent2, iceagent3, and so on.
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Any politician that promises to go after these pigs with extreme prejudice has my vote. None of these fascists can be allowed to get away with anything they've done. Justice must prevail, and examples be made of them to warn off future attempts.
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