Director describes how his views on existence of aliens have changed, interspersed with footage from film.
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I hope there is a way too long fight scene that revolves around trying to get someone to wear sunglasses.
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The best thing that could happen to humankind is a common enemy. Otherwise we'll keep fighting each other.
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Somehow the marketing of this movie makes me thing that Spielberg actually believes in aliens. It’s an interesting pitch, if that’s intended.
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First we have to get through WWIII/The Eugenics War. Then we will face the Romulan Star Empire.
In reality, the filter of distance and time essentially means any intelegent life, unless it forms in the same system, is effectively the only intelegent life in the univere.
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I think he does, wether it's plausible they have, or can visit us, or we them, is unlikely. That, however, doesn't make a good movie about aliens, however.
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Quite Hitchcockian, in that Hitchcock used to appear in trailers for his movies. Like this one for Frenzy:
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For a moment there I thought he might be the Dan Aykroyd of aliens.
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It has always been going nowhere.
Life is only what you make of it. And what you can make of it vary from person to person. There's no mysteries about that. We delude ourselves into thinking we're somehow special just because we have microwave ovens and can make controlled fires sometimes. Our mutual conceit, and blind spot, is that it makes us assume we're "better" than a single-celled organism, or even the nothing that was here a whole hell of a lot longer than we've been around as "life" in the first place.
The ride was always heading to nowhere though. We're just watching the scenery as we mark time until humans go extinct. Our FAILURE is the general lack of our ability to conceive of our own non-existence, and to constantly be looking forward to "better" without taking tangible steps NOW to make it better.
Intelligent Alien life is probably a thing somewhere else in the universe. But if it exists while we're able to detect it, we'll not recognize it as such. The odds suggest that we're currently effectively alone in the universe, and will remain so for the duration of our species - which is LIKELY measured in years, rather than decades, or even centuries, given our current situation.
After all, over 8 billion humans live on a planet with a sustainability capacity of only 3 billion humans (give or take). And that's killing the environment that keeps us, and most everything else today, alive. We are morons, thinking we're geniuses, or somehow special because we think an invisible sky friend has our backs.
So, yeah, this ride is going nowhere. And when (not if) it crashes, it's going to take us with it. With a bang, or without even a whimper, we aren't eternal. We're just anthropoids, and we'll either evolve into something else, or die out as has over 99% of all the life on this planet over its history. Nothing more special than anything else.
What we do to help each other on the way is what makes it seem like we're special, because that's what gives our existence - short as it is - meaning to others. But in the end, great or small, famous or unknown, it'll all be forgotten at some future point. That's just how the universe rolls.
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Most of us already have a common enemy... which has convinced us to fight each other.
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Well let’s see, humans are made from hydrogen, oxygen, carbon, nitrogen, and other….in that order. The cosmos has the exact same main ingredients in that same order, except it has helium as number 2. It’s chemically inert, so we don’t have it. Of those, carbon is the most “fertile” of those ingredients and is a major ingredient from diamonds to bananas to what we call life. So if it’s so abundant, of course there is life elsewhere in our universe. To think we are all alone is rather shortsighted. Plus water is everywhere in the cosmos too.
As for this movie, I’m excited and it will be one of the less than a handful I watch in theatres this summer.
As for this movie, I’m excited and it will be one of the less than a handful I watch in theatres this summer.
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I really wish Spielberg would not talk about the premise of his movie as though it were actually true. Because it's not. And I'm concerned this movie is going to be treated like a fictionalized documentary than just fiction, especially given how many people want to believe it's true.
I really, really hope that this doesn't lean into conspiracy theorist tropes like the invention of things like nukes and transistors being alien tech. As if we don't have a full accounting of exactly how these things were invented.
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A big component of conspiracy theory is that "they" (aliens, demons, globalists) are bound by natural laws to broadcast their plans, but "they" do so by presenting it as fiction so that we don't believe it, then the conspiracist connects a work of fiction to an event ex post facto.
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I DO believe there is "intelligent" life out there but I do NOT NOT NOT believe that they are ANYWHERE within several lifetimes at light speed from us. Meaning that even if "they" and "we" both left, RIGHT NOW trying to get to each other, it would take a million or more years to get there. And based on the LACK OF INTELLIGENCE in the highest roll in our country, well I don't see humans lasting long enough for us to meet anyone else. If we do, it will be from dumb luck.
Do UFOs exist? Yes, ONLY in the fact that there are things that we can't explain. HOWEVER, if there was intelligent life that was able to get to our planet from theirs, their IQ would make the people with the highest IQs be equal to an IQ of ONE com pared to their Average IQ. Meaning we would be as dum as rocks compared to them. So be careful what you wish for. Because it won't be pretty because we will end up as food or slaves or they will just take most of our water and leave and will we be dead, ALL of us, in less than a year due to lack of water.
Do UFOs exist? Yes, ONLY in the fact that there are things that we can't explain. HOWEVER, if there was intelligent life that was able to get to our planet from theirs, their IQ would make the people with the highest IQs be equal to an IQ of ONE com pared to their Average IQ. Meaning we would be as dum as rocks compared to them. So be careful what you wish for. Because it won't be pretty because we will end up as food or slaves or they will just take most of our water and leave and will we be dead, ALL of us, in less than a year due to lack of water.
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"And pray that there's intelligent life somewhere up in space
'Cause there's bugger-all down here on Earth."
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Any intelligence capable of interstellar travel at practical timescales would not bother with our planet. There are much easier planets to go to for resource harvesting, even in this system. If you want water, you've got tons of comets that are already in space that you can harvest from, let alone smaller planets with less gravity to deal with.
No, a Von Neumann self-replicating probe swarm is probably the greatest extraterrestrial threat we might face.
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The universe is incomprehensibly vast (and old).
We're nothing close to the best that life (bio-genesis + evolution) can offer. We haven't even temporarily achieved the best version of our highly flawed selves, let alone the best version of all possible intelligent life forms. We likely will never witness direct proof of these things but that's OK. By the way... this year is the 50th anniversary of the other, other good book.
Misanthropic is the way.
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Either that or captain Jack Sparrow is going to help me watch this...
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And yet...despite this, we remain the most interesting thing the universe has produced to our knowledge. The human brain for all its shortcomings is by far the most intricate structure we have yet to come across.
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What if the aliens are P-zombies? That'd probably be more depressing than uplifting.
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After reading about what's happening in the world these days, I agree with you.Steven Spielberg said:
Surely she hasn't had THAT much BOTOX®, has she?
BOTOX® is a registered trademark of Allergan, Inc.
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Turing tried to warn us...but we never listen, do we? Then again, if you get too deep into this stuff you end up in dark places where any sufficiently advanced and malevolent intelligence could be indistinguishable from a human at an outward glance. This of course leads to interesting ideas about evolution of things like camouflage and ability to ensnare prey, for example, could there be a p-zombie_TA variant which has adapted to feed on the thought experiments of undergrads?
Clearly this variant would disguise itself as a Teaching Assistant, endearing themselves to a weakened host professor, eventually trapping them in an ontological loop generated by some inconsequential detail of their field and how it appears to intersect with quantum field theory, in order to generate enough energy for the true work. You see, they would be forced to constantly be formulating ever more elaborate and ridiculous thought experiments for use as homework, lest they find the students able to game the system by reusing past answers or generating them from SocraGPTes or some other cleverly named asshole.
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I don't quite get the whole vast government conspiracy thing.
I'm afraid this will end up reminding me of the 1960's super spy movies where an evil genius had hundreds of people working in his volcanic island.
Okay, I understand the secret agent, and I understand the super villain, but what do the hundreds of workers get out of it?
I'm afraid this will end up reminding me of the 1960's super spy movies where an evil genius had hundreds of people working in his volcanic island.
Okay, I understand the secret agent, and I understand the super villain, but what do the hundreds of workers get out of it?
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I honestly liked it better before Spielberg opened his yap and started openly promoting conspiracy BS.
Maybe, someday, when it streams to me for free. Definitely not worth a trip to the theater, imo.
Maybe, someday, when it streams to me for free. Definitely not worth a trip to the theater, imo.
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If you really look at the arc of history, human behavior is, slowly, and with plenty of backslides, trending in the right direction. Peace and cooperation certainly generates far more prosperity, and opportunities to pass on genetic predispositions, than war. At least in relatively modern history.
On a good day, my view is, it's just going to be a long and slow slog. The problem will be to survive and, hopefully, eventually root out the kind of sociopathic, self-centered behavior driving so much pain and suffering.
Although that is predicated on maintaining a level of technology that is capable of actually providing for all humans' needs given whatever the current environmental conditions are at any given point in the future. (Not that we've figured out how to successfully deploy it worldwide quite yet.) There's plenty of room left to mess things up fundamentally and permanently, at least for the human species as we know it today.
But the universe is also unimaginably vast. It would be sheer arrogance to assume we're the only life capable of intentional self-improvement and exploration.
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I think Dan Aykroyd is the Dan Aykroyd of aliens. Dude is about a step and a half away from being a legitimate nutter.
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I mean...unless they're just excited to meet other sapient beings. That seems kind of huge. We do all sorts of things we don't stand to gain much from because of curiosity.
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Agreed about where they could be. Light speed travel is fine for inside of our galaxy if a warp drive ever existed, but outside of our galaxy, it’s rather useless. Even at max warp as far as how Star Trek presented it, it’s still slow. That’s another reason why Star Trek and Star Wars take place inside of a galaxy and not really intergalactic.
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Oh Boy. Stephen, you go too far in trying to hype your movie. Of course their is intelligent life other than ours in the Universe and just as positively, we've never, ever, encountered any of it here nor will there ever be a 'Disclosure' of such.
You make amazing content at times and this movie may be more on the pile, but pretending to actually know something just to hype your film is frankly irresponsible and only feeds into the conspiracy idiocy currently consuming many mediocre minds. It's entertainment, not revelation. Independence Day producer Roland Emmerich seemed to understand that; you clearly do not. Maybe give him a ring before you release more bunk?
I hope the movie is excellent and a resounding success, but your appearance in this trailer is a major fail. However, Emily continues to display some impressive chops even in these clips.
You make amazing content at times and this movie may be more on the pile, but pretending to actually know something just to hype your film is frankly irresponsible and only feeds into the conspiracy idiocy currently consuming many mediocre minds. It's entertainment, not revelation. Independence Day producer Roland Emmerich seemed to understand that; you clearly do not. Maybe give him a ring before you release more bunk?
I hope the movie is excellent and a resounding success, but your appearance in this trailer is a major fail. However, Emily continues to display some impressive chops even in these clips.
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Strangely, the title of this movie is similar to, and the trailer's spaceship-emerging-from-the-atmosphere footage is a dead ringer for the spaceships in "Independence Day" and its forgettable 2016 sequel. I can't find any indications that these movies are related in any way or happen in the same universe, nor was Spielberg involved in the others, but those bits seem a little coincidental if it's not related in some way. Has there been any official word on that?
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Disclosure Day happened long ago.
Enrico Fermi asked, "Where are they?"
Leo Szilard said, "They are among us," he said, "but they call themselves Hungarians."
Can't wait to see the CGI Edward Teller, though!
Enrico Fermi asked, "Where are they?"
Leo Szilard said, "They are among us," he said, "but they call themselves Hungarians."
Can't wait to see the CGI Edward Teller, though!
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People will react to disclosure with whatever response the garbage media they're watching prompts them too. Unfortunately.
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