Some critics have castigated the technique as too difficult for the average hacker. Others have argued the hack has little significance in the real world.
As Ars pointed out last week, the security of iPhones would improve dramatically if Apple allowed users to unlock iPhones only after producing a valid PIN and fingerprint. This would make the iPhone a truly two-factor device, and Apple's decision not to provide the option is a missed opportunity.
[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=25348427#p25348427:1clyr8jt said:redleader[/url]":1clyr8jt]I guess in retrospect, fingerprints aren't the best idea for biometrics on a phone since the prints themselves are left on the device with typical use. So basically, steal the phone and you have the print. I wonder if they could have you image your knuckles or something like that instead.
[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=25348497#p25348497:3jvrhdof said:gjvanoldenborgh[/url]":3jvrhdof]How about using only the tip of your thumb? Also not frequently left on a beer glass?
For me, I think the convenience still outweighs the risks (assuming I can get my claws on an actual 5s).
There's some merit in this second argument, since any protection, no matter how flawed, is better than none at all.
"Just because it's too much trouble for you doesn't mean it's too much trouble for a private investigator hired by your former husband," he wrote in an e-mail to Ars. "Or the neighbor's kid. Or an FBI agent. As a kid, I attended science fiction conventions in costume and had latex around the house to get those Vulcan ears to look just right. As a kid, I etched circuit boards. This sort of stuff is easy, easy, easy—you just need to try."
[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=25348611#p25348611:20k7zwcz said:Honey Badger[/url]":20k7zwcz]
Any sufficiently determined attacker can crack 4-digit PIN codes as well. All they need to do is stealthily shoulder-surf as you type it in. Touch ID works better against average thieves than a PIN, as a thief needs to spend time taking a high resolution photo of your fingerprint, touching up the photo, getting to a laser printer, applying the latex, and letting the latex film settle. That gives the victim some time to remotely disable their phone from the Find My iPhone app.
Yes, it's true that a thief can perform these steps before stealing the phone, but that's a targeted attack. And with mobile devices, all bets are off in targeted attacks.
[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=25348647#p25348647:ru0ymoab said:mcdonaldd[/url]":ru0ymoab]How fresh was the fingerprint - Apple claims TouchID gets better at discerning your finger print with each use. I'm curious if this only fools Touch ID because it was a newly registered finger; as opposed to fooling TouchID after a fingerprint been used for a week, month, year. Time will tell. Still better than not having any security at all.
I bet this will be available on Cydia shortly after the jailbreak for the 5s is discovered. Hopefully Apple can be brought around to adding it to the phone as well, it seems like it should be pretty easy to implement.Given Apple's long history of removing clutter from menus and user interfaces, it seems unlikely that this option will ever be available.
Well, that last at least would put your phone at much lower risk of theft, admittedly for different reasons.[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=25348573#p25348573:259ugadm said:jxmzsr[/url]":259ugadm]
If you touch the screen you are going to leave a print, doesn't matter if its the fingertip, thumb tip, toe print, nose print, ear print, genital print....
[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=25348685#p25348685:2n5hvst4 said:uhuznaa[/url]":2n5hvst4]TouchID is a convenience feature, no more, no less. It's much better than not having a PIN and much more convenient than a PIN (or even a complex password). Apple should have marked it as this by choosing defaults wisely and allowing an option to turn it into a security feature (by using it for two-factor authentication without a timeout).
[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=25348609#p25348609:1y2nb3wh said:Bron[/url]":1y2nb3wh]I don't understand this reaction to a fingerprint sensor not being perfect. Isn't that obvious? If apple had invented a perfect fingerprint sensor then a lot of three letter agencies would have been interested.
A lot of this seems to me to be missing the point. This was intended to be an easy and convenient way to secure a phone that otherwise would not have been secured. Loads of people do not bother with a PIN, and even then tend to use short four digit pins which are as dubious as a touch sensor. To me, anything that persuades more people to at least lock their phone is a win.
Having said that, the apple marketing could have done a better job at communicating this, and I sorely wish there was an option for two factor authentication all the time, rather that just at restarts.
More pertinently, I think, why would someone too lazy to use a PIN bother with swiping their fingers?[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=25348583#p25348583:46fncnly said:fitten[/url]":46fncnly]There's some merit in this second argument, since any protection, no matter how flawed, is better than none at all.
A false sense of security may cause people to be more lax about their security, which may make things worse.
[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=25348663#p25348663:gj0ismaj said:Zorro[/url]":gj0ismaj]Coming next TONGUE prints!
Lick you phone to unlock....
"Why does my phone taste like fish?"
[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=25348685#p25348685:3gnbltpe said:uhuznaa[/url]":3gnbltpe]God, recommending using an inconvenient finger for unlocking is a really ugly workaround...
What I would like Apple to do: Add a configurable timeout for TouchID after which it requires a PIN:
Immediately
5 minutes
15 minutes
1 hour
2 hours
6 hours
If Apple would have done that right away nobody would have to complain about all of this.
[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=25348495#p25348495:2btpk697 said:skicow[/url]":2btpk697]Some critics have castigated the technique as too difficult for the average hacker. Others have argued the hack has little significance in the real world.
People saying this also have to remember that this technique was developed less than 48 hours after they got their hands on the device -- I'm sure there will be easier hacks out there soon enough.