AI tracks account for a small fraction of Deezer streams, and most are demonetized for fraud.
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Deezer says 44% of new music uploads are AI-generated, most streams are fraudulent
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Gonna point this out:
This is the reason why in the DJ space online there is a huge push for everyone to start conforming to rules about phrasing, key changes, and [insert word]-play.
The more regimented you make the music, the easier is for someone to write a LLM that can follow these "industry-standard" rules to put out slop.
Keep that in mind in each of your hobbies as influencers keep popping up to start preaching the "right way to do something" when no one cared for years as long as the final product was good.
This is the reason why in the DJ space online there is a huge push for everyone to start conforming to rules about phrasing, key changes, and [insert word]-play.
The more regimented you make the music, the easier is for someone to write a LLM that can follow these "industry-standard" rules to put out slop.
Keep that in mind in each of your hobbies as influencers keep popping up to start preaching the "right way to do something" when no one cared for years as long as the final product was good.
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All technologies have an upside. The question is do they outweigh the down sides. AI/LLM/Computer Learning seems to have, at least to me and at this point in time, far more negatives than positives as society, at least in the US, YOLOing it and letting c-suit sociopaths do whatever they want with it.
There may be more upsides to this tech in the future with science acceleration and detecting trends and behavior that would take a human years to discover, but for now......
tl;dr: Frak AI.
There may be more upsides to this tech in the future with science acceleration and detecting trends and behavior that would take a human years to discover, but for now......
tl;dr: Frak AI.
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I'm confused, why would DJs want to put themselves out of business by making it easier for AI to mimic them?
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I'm stuck on pre 1922 music. Well I guess that fellow Gershwin wrote a few good things...
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Is this /s?
So... just call it quits on new culture? We got what we got? I'm no fan of AI art because I value humans over machines, but is this what you are saying?
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That's more an indictment (okay, okay; "a reflection!") of the kinds of human-generated modern pop that's out there. I suppose it's possible that an AI could do a 70's singer-songwriter tune or arena rock song but it would have some serious tells.
Meanwhile, you can hide a lot of AI behind autotuning and synths. But don't mind me, my lawn is infested with kids.
Meanwhile, you can hide a lot of AI behind autotuning and synths. But don't mind me, my lawn is infested with kids.
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Sure.
Calling all non-classical music slop? Don't be an ass.
I don't want to listen to AI music, I want to reward human creativity. But I also don't want that to require my tastes to become frozen in time, a slave to nostalgia. I want to hear new works and new styles.
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If most people listen to music that isn't at the top of the complexity scale (can't prove that, but it sure seems likely) and 97% of people can't tell the difference.. does it matter at all that there are some minor limitations?
The only issue I can see with AI asset generation is that the models were trained by taking material the trainers didn't own. As soon as that is a settled thing (socially, by convention, law, Butlerian Jihad, I mean whatever) -- it's over folks.
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To all the people who have said they don't care because certainly AI won't come for classical music --- with the entire spectrum of the creative process that AI has stolen from and repurposed, how is it possible that you think that will be the line in the sand?
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Another issue to consider is that a human being wasn't involved enough in pushing forward our collective culture... so a human doesn't get paid for art. At best a human gets paid for a prompt, but no skill in creation.
Do we want a society where our value to the world is based on how profitable we are, or can we leave room for art and fancy to be valuable in the world?
Big gray boxes are efficient to build and operate, but they suck to live in.
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Thank god I've reached the point of my life where I mostly listen to the music from my youth.
I kid, I kid. All this AI generated content - I refuse to call it art - is overwhelming human-created works and it's depressing. I hate it. I don't respect people that use it. At a certain point, any meaningful creativity is outsourced away from the human, and that's no longer art. It's slop.
I kid, I kid. All this AI generated content - I refuse to call it art - is overwhelming human-created works and it's depressing. I hate it. I don't respect people that use it. At a certain point, any meaningful creativity is outsourced away from the human, and that's no longer art. It's slop.
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Cap'nAwesome
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Honestly all pop music with a reliance on Autotune has sounded AI-generated to me since long before AI had the ability to compose music.
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Pre-AI experiments in algorithmic classical music generation by computers made symphonies something like… I want to say a decade ago. I can’t remember where I encountered them but I remember listening to a few after reading an article on the topic.
Were they good? I don’t think so, but it’s not the safe place you assume.
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pixithacat
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so create music with AI, and play it via AI, and get paid by the streaming service, i see a business model....
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Are you listening to actual recordings of Beethoven from the 1800's or are you listening to later recordings where the symphony was looking at the sheet music? What prevents AI from producing the same thing using the sheet music?
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It's becoming increasingly clear that any upload based website that openly allows AI content is becoming increasingly non-viable. When ~50% of your site is mass uploaded garbage what even is the point anymore? If you don't moderate against it the whole service just turns into valueless trash.
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If you aren't listening to music being played live by one of your servants on the harpsichord in your personal ballroom, are you even listening to real music?
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AI-generated classical music has been a thing for a while now, line was crossed years ago.
I dunno where people are getting this idea that their special genre is slop-free, I promise you it's not.
As with anything else in 2026 you just need to be a discerning consumer.
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The near term upside is the end of the intellectual property order. The commons has been starved of contributions because corporations have lobbied to extend and extend copyright, while also cheating the actual humans who do most of the creative work under the rubric of “work for hire.”
The collapse of this rent-seeking model will also erase much the financial incentive for generative mimicry. Who knows what comes next, but it will definitely be interesting!
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Just as a reminder, local alternative music radio stations still do exist in some locales. The one I am listening to daily is nearly 4 decades old and still going on strong, with music selected by hand and not any algorithm, unlike all mainstream stations in the past few decades (most mainstream commercial radios were the first to accept algorithmic music playlists with the Selector™ commercial app like two or three decades ago already).
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Yes, the era of paying another premium for music produced from 100% organically farmed humans is here, but no one will stock it on a shelf.
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I think the more annoying thing, which I hope gets addressed soon with this, is when people upload AI slop to existing artists pages. Usually happens to bands that broke up years ago and don't really maintain their page, but so annoying when there's a "new song" notification by someone only to find out it's AI crap.
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Bots listening to bot music to boost bot music on computer algorithms.
Jesus wept.
Jesus wept.
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This might be a problem for AI that generates raw audio, but it isn't for one that generates notation. Bear in mind how strongly guided by music theory classical music is, how many rules they had about what was right and wrong and even strictly forbidden, the almost algorithmic approaches of counterpoint, canons, fugues etc. Classical music has very strong grammars that work very nicely for LLMs.
AI can mimic this very easily, it's all part of the grammar. IIRC there are examples of generative Bach that were created decades ago that fooled all but a small number of experts. If you heard them, 99% chance is you'd be ascribing all those emotions and themes as if it were written by a human.
It's not a good thing, it's depressing as hell, but it does raise interesting questions about art.
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I’m guessing it’s because DJs perform live and they don’t want to be replaced by AI but they’d love to use it in their performances. Most modern music already has very, very strict rules. You get a couple of choruses, a couple of verses and a bridge if you’re lucky. Most likely the song will be in 4/4. We don’t get too many pop waltz hits.
So I’m not entirely sure what the OP was addressing. Of course DJ’s want standardized keys and key changes because they live mix music and to do that it helps if tempos and keys line up. This is not new with AI.
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We are at the point with climate change where people should be charged for crimes against humanity for building more data centers.
Yet still people are using huge amounts of energy and water to generate D tier elevator music.
Our entire civilization is just pathetic on so many fronts.
Yet still people are using huge amounts of energy and water to generate D tier elevator music.
Our entire civilization is just pathetic on so many fronts.
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Streaming services generating their own AI slop is the end game. With no royalties, all the subscription money is pure profit. Greed will ensure the 44% will be approaching 100% within 5 years and we will one day look back and wonder how we allowed it to happen.
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It do be like that... never understood the fascination with that crap, but all being subjective, never felt it worth the effort to argue against it.
Also, people need to pick up after their dogs and keep their filthy, immoral AI-tune / Autotune off my lawn. Now if you'll excuse me, I must return to the soothing melodies of Nine Inch Nails' new concept cover album, "The Lawrence Welk Experience."
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A friend turned me on to a band called Elements of Dysfunction. They seemed like a crunky new blues band and we were both enjoying them. But I've been unable to find anything about them online, and I have noticed that a lot of their songs share an alarming number of similarities. I fear they might be an AI band.
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Why would you be pleased about that? It is this reasoning, that the end result is all that matters because it is all just a product for you to consume, is one of the fundemental reasons the world is what it is today.
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Recently i found a lot of remixes of some music i like. Oh hey neat.
The downside? They ended up being AI-generated.
Which is a shame because it takes a lot of musical skill and understanding to take a particular song and remake it in the style of another artist.
The most poignant example for me was youtuber Geoffplaysguitar taking music and remixing it in the style of Mick Gordon's Doom soundtrack. Each video he does a breakdown of how he comes up with his remixed version. Super fascinating. And i know he's not the only person that does this.
The downside? They ended up being AI-generated.
Which is a shame because it takes a lot of musical skill and understanding to take a particular song and remake it in the style of another artist.
The most poignant example for me was youtuber Geoffplaysguitar taking music and remixing it in the style of Mick Gordon's Doom soundtrack. Each video he does a breakdown of how he comes up with his remixed version. Super fascinating. And i know he's not the only person that does this.
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I agree. That said, both jazz and oldstyle funk seems to be less AI infested than many genres. Perhaps syncopation is still a few years away from being easily reproduced by machines clinging hard to pattern recognition?
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