“Prior to AI, my feeling around this was none of the others were valid choices."
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Cue: Apple will add AI search in mobile Safari, challenging Google
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When I want to search the Internet, I want to search the Internet. An AI Chatbot inserted into that operation is a big Do Not Want.
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Why are all these executives looking at how much money their competition is losing on AI and thinking "we aren't losing nearly enough"?
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Or the still-broken Google intelligence?
Those AI summaries Google has been shoveling into my face for months now run about 80% wrong. Just flat-out wrong. And often insistently wrong. The remainder are trivial, no different from the plain old search results Google used to feed me when I...wanted search results.
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The whole tech industry has basically been overtaken by an AI death cult that thinks if they pour all the money and effort in the world into AI development they will eventually create God.
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Reading article plus their phones being offered in the EU most likely there will still be a choice.
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I did a search a couple of days ago because I wanted to know how something was done in the factory when manufacturing a bike. Google AI gave an answer that sounded like "the truth" about how it worked. You can click in that answer on an icon and it shows the sources for that answer.
The sources? 3 posts made by randos on Reddit ....
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I googled the date Stockton Rush died, like a year and a half after the OceanGate sub imploded his ass into finely pureed chum, and Google's AI summary cheerfully reported that he was still alive and still the CEO.
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Apple Maps is now head and shoulders superior to Google Maps, so I have some faith it will all work out in a couple of years.
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Simpler: it’s just FOMO or more realistically, FOLLYMO.
+ Looking Like You’re
… versus shareholder, board, and public/pundit perception.
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Is Apple Intelligence particularly broken, or is it just gimped and not rolling out its most critical features?
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Clearly it was a lifelike robot in that sub, and the real one emerged from his vault.
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A few takeaways from this article for me. First, if both Google and Apple shares dropped after his statements--assuming the drop was not due to broader issues--it implies the market believes what Google was paying Apple was worth it for both companies. Second, it was a change in user behavior that is prompting Apple to look at AI choices as options, implying as users, we are providing Apple input on what we want through how we use their product.
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Siri (2011) = google assistant (2016) but worse?
In your personal experience, how are Apple Maps in iOS 18/iPadOS/Sequoia inferior to google maps?
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All I want for iOS 19 is the ability to configure Kagi as my default search engine, so that I don't need the wonky solution of having an app redirect Google searches to kagi.com.
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Some folks' purpose in life is to speedrun a cautionary tale for the rest of us.Clearly it was a lifelike robot in that sub, and the real one emerged from his vault.
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Why doesn't this article go beyond parroting Cue's talking points and ask some useful questions instead?
"Why doesn't Safari allow users to configure their preferred search engine (e.g., Kagi) instead of choosing from a limited set of bad choices, thereby hurting much-needed competition in this space?"
"If Apple is entering the search market, what assurance do customers have that Apple won't later degrade the search results by inserting paid ads and promoted results a la Google?"
"Why is Eddy Cue so confident about Apple's AI prospects when their current attempts have yielded such poor results and most of their promised features have now been delayed indefinitely?"
"Why doesn't Safari allow users to configure their preferred search engine (e.g., Kagi) instead of choosing from a limited set of bad choices, thereby hurting much-needed competition in this space?"
"If Apple is entering the search market, what assurance do customers have that Apple won't later degrade the search results by inserting paid ads and promoted results a la Google?"
"Why is Eddy Cue so confident about Apple's AI prospects when their current attempts have yielded such poor results and most of their promised features have now been delayed indefinitely?"
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If users are satisfied with mediocrity, then just about anyone can do that with AI.
Apple's hardware efforts have varied in quality from very good to best in the world. But their software efforts have never impressed. Predictive typing, Siri suggestions, Apple Maps for the first several iterations, etc. have all been pretty bad.
Though I will say that Apple Maps have improved significantly over the years. I haven't kept up, so I don't know if it's all in-house or built on top of someone else's platform, but I now prefer it to Google Maps on my phone.
Apple's hardware efforts have varied in quality from very good to best in the world. But their software efforts have never impressed. Predictive typing, Siri suggestions, Apple Maps for the first several iterations, etc. have all been pretty bad.
Though I will say that Apple Maps have improved significantly over the years. I haven't kept up, so I don't know if it's all in-house or built on top of someone else's platform, but I now prefer it to Google Maps on my phone.
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From my observations, Google's mapping products are much, much better at cluttering up my screen with paid-placement business icons at which I have no intention of stopping.
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Eddy Cue is wrong. There is a whole generation now that only knows an evil, bad Google (not morally bad, but doesn’t work bad). The default Google search sucks so the Zoomers are going elsewhere.
AI ain’t gonna save Apple because AI search SEO is waiting for any AI search engine to be worthy to game (and destroy). The zoomers perceive TikTok’s search results as similar to human recommendations while Google is already worse than AI slop.
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Such a glowing recommendation; definitely worth burning our entire planet down for!
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Default use of LLM-backed web apps to retrieve information is the end of the open web. Just a handful of megacorps directly synthesizing text for users.
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This simply sounds like the worst of all possible options, combined into a potential disaster of a search engine.
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Fucking unreal. How many billions to make web searching progressively worse for at least the last decade?
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Their software WAS impressive, if you go back far enough in time. It was arguably a bigger selling point than their hardware.
I'm talking about the early 2000s, the era of the iPod, iTunes, and the wonderful iLife apps (iPhoto, iMovie, etc.) That software, along with the operating system at the time, were leaps and bounds superior to anything on Windows, usability-wise and aesthetically speaking. Also their pro apps including Aperture, before they abandoned that market to Adobe.
But those days are long gone now.
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By compete with Google AI Search do they mean they are also attempting to build the worst search platform possible? This is a race to the bottom right?
On a serious note, are there any large tech companies not drinking the fake "AI" Kool-Aid?
On a serious note, are there any large tech companies not drinking the fake "AI" Kool-Aid?
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Don't forget the advertising and paid search results. That's what Eddy is really excited about.
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I truly wish it was that simple! There's definitely some of that too, to be sure, but unfortunately a lot of rich tech guys are actual madmen.
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