CBP facility codes sure seem to have leaked via online flashcards

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From the top down, there seems to be absolutely no emphasis on anything even remotely resembling competence or proper process.

To me, it seems that the only imperatives are cruelty and allowing the more violent, racist individuals in our society a legal and unaccountable avenue by which to play out their impulses.

There are logical and security senses to departments in charge of homeland security as well as issues around customs and immigration enforcement.
There are also ways those departments and their objectives can be formatted to ensure they are carried out in a smart, efficient and civilized way.

Nothing of what I have seen so far suggests that smart, efficient and civilized even exist in the vocabularies of the department leadership.
Purely from a citizen and tax-payer standpoint, the current situation is unacceptable because it creates potential for lapses in security and has resulted in harm to the very citizenry these departments are charged to protect.

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Coppercloud

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Why is it that every time we talk about ICE training or security I start to hear "entrance of the gladiator" in the back of my head? It's this normal?
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MilanKraft

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Is this regime really expecting me to believe some kind of oversight exists at CBP and that any kind of corrective measure will be taken? Because i don’t
They expect their idiot voting block will believe it... and that various members of Congress will mindlessly regurgitate it.... along with 152 other "this isn't the protocol" things we've seen in the news over the last year+ that should send shivers down spines... and they're right to expect all of that — because it works.

MAGA / MAHA rubes will believe literally anything they're told by this administration, no matter how much their eyes, ears, and memory might otherwise tell them something different. Reluctant to use the tired "sheeple" word, but it fits. It seems they question literally nothing, except things long established (safety of vaccines, separation of powers, etc).

I guess we'll have wait and see "how bad do things have to get" before some of them swipe off their red caps and start scratching their scalps with a curious look on their face. What will it take for the shady-to-completely-sick shit they're seeing on all fronts, to be more important to them than "saving face and owning the libs on social media," and then doing the very wise and human thing called "... you know what? I've made a mistake. I was wrong. I don't believe what the libs believe about abortion and guns, but his is not who we are supposed to be."
 
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MAGA / MAHA rubes will believe literally anything they're told by this administration, no matter how much their eyes, ears, and memory might otherwise tell them something different. Reluctant to use the tired "sheeple" word, but it fits. It seems they question literally nothing, except things long established (safety of vaccines, separation of powers, etc).

"Cognitive surrender."
 
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"Cognitive surrender."
I don’t believe it’s that, because that doesn’t explain why they surrender to MAGA and not to better epistemic and moral authorities. I believe it is just hyper focus on sadistic cruelty and the enjoyment of chaos and destruction as means, if not to end up on top, at least for their scapegoats to end up miserable.
 
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I don’t believe it’s that, because that doesn’t explain why they surrender to MAGA and not to better epistemic and moral authorities. I believe it is just hyper focus on sadistic cruelty and the enjoyment of chaos and destruction as means, if not to end up on top, at least for their scapegoats to end up miserable.
Emotion and ease help the surrendering.

Ease as in, it's closer aligned to what they want. There's no challenging or changing required.

Can see it in other things, general preconceived/unconscious notions/biases. The general way that misinformation can spread, because it affirms our assumptions. https://www.apa.org/topics/journalism-facts/how-why-misinformation-spreads Don't know if there's a clearer study available...
 
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I don’t believe it’s that, because that doesn’t explain why they surrender to MAGA and not to better epistemic and moral authorities. I believe it is just hyper focus on sadistic cruelty and the enjoyment of chaos and destruction as means, if not to end up on top, at least for their scapegoats to end up miserable.
Dr. David Moon of the University of Bath did some interesting things on this.... let me see if i can find his papers....
found it: https://researchportal.bath.ac.uk/en/persons/david-moon/

Basically they voted for the show.
 
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I don’t believe it’s that, because that doesn’t explain why they surrender to MAGA and not to better epistemic and moral authorities. I believe it is just hyper focus on sadistic cruelty and the enjoyment of chaos and destruction as means, if not to end up on top, at least for their scapegoats to end up miserable.
After cycling through a ton of republican talking points and asking my dad why he believed such stupid shit, he told me he doesn’t, he just likes that they’re pissing people off. So I agree with you, it’s sadism. It looks like the behavior of a school bully who never grew up.
There is nobody in this administration from the very top to 10 levels down (probably more) who is actually qualified for their job.
That’s what you get when you replace DEI hires with DUI hires.
 
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After cycling through a ton of republican talking points and asking my dad why he believed such stupid shit, he told me he doesn’t, he just likes that they’re pissing people off. So I agree with you, it’s sadism. It looks like the behavior of a school bully who never grew up.
If you believe in society being zero sum it can even make logical sense.

I suppose if you grew up in the 70s it might not seem like society has gotten better enough to defeat the zero sum fallacy.
 
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If you believe in society being zero sum it can even make logical sense.

I suppose if you grew up in the 70s it might not seem like society has gotten better enough to defeat the zero sum fallacy.
My dad grew up before that, he was drafted in the Vietnam war and stayed in the military until retirement.

He doesn’t know or care how life is for anyone else, to the point he was laughing that people still used dialup when aol finally shut it down and was surprised when I told him plenty of people don’t have access to broadband.

Of course the kleptocracy is taking the money that was meant to fix that. Again.
 
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The last card detailed an apparent internal system, “E3 BEST,” that allows officers to “record, investigate and adjudicate secondary referrals at USBP checkpoints” by allowing them to “query subjects and vehicles simultaneously through multiple law enforcement databases and create e3 Events for referrals resulting in an arrest.”

I want to hear a lot more about this system, particularly which databases it accesses and if it is used with US citizens.
 
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I'm genuinely unsure whether journalism ethics require protecting the secret police and their camps. I understand the arguments for and against, but when CBP refused to even release the names of their agents who murdered people in cold blood on public streets, I kinda feel like they lost the imprimateur of legitimacy.
 
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I want to hear a lot more about this system, particularly which databases it accesses and if it is used with US citizens.
Maybe they have data from Thomson Reuters: https://www.404media.co/how-thomson-reuters-powers-ice-and-palantir/

Thomson Reuters, the media company which is also a data broker, has long provided underlying personal data for Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) tools, according to documents obtained by 404 Media and sources. There are also indications its data is now part of the Palantir system ICE uses to find which neighborhoods to target.
 
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From the top down, there seems to be absolutely no emphasis on anything even remotely resembling competence or proper process.

To me, it seems that the only imperatives are cruelty and allowing the more violent, racist individuals in our society a legal and unaccountable avenue by which to play out their impulses.

There are logical and security senses to departments in charge of homeland security as well as issues around customs and immigration enforcement.
There are also ways those departments and their objectives can be formatted to ensure they are carried out in a smart, efficient and civilized way.

Nothing of what I have seen so far suggests that smart, efficient and civilized even exist in the vocabularies of the department leadership.
Purely from a citizen and tax-payer standpoint, the current situation is unacceptable because it creates potential for lapses in security and has resulted in harm to the very citizenry these departments are charged to protect.

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Seems to me that's the exact wording of the recruiting posters and job requirement.
 
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The0N

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Didn’t this happen before? I specifically remember something about US bases in the Netherlands which had a similar issue. Edit to add; Google AI says;
  • Nuclear Secret Leaks via Study Apps (2021): An investigation by Bellingcat revealed that US military personnel stationed at Volkel Air Base in the Netherlands (and other European bases) used public flashcard apps like Quizlet, Chegg Prep, and Cram to study security protocols. These flashcards contained sensitive, unclassified information, including the locations of nuclear vaults, "duress words," and security camera positions.”
There also seems to be multiple examples form other countries.
 
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From the top down, there seems to be absolutely no emphasis on anything even remotely resembling competence or proper process.

To me, it seems that the only imperatives are cruelty and allowing the more violent, racist individuals in our society a legal and unaccountable avenue by which to play out their impulses.

There are logical and security senses to departments in charge of homeland security as well as issues around customs and immigration enforcement.
There are also ways those departments and their objectives can be formatted to ensure they are carried out in a smart, efficient and civilized way.

Nothing of what I have seen so far suggests that smart, efficient and civilized even exist in the vocabularies of the department leadership.
Purely from a citizen and tax-payer standpoint, the current situation is unacceptable because it creates potential for lapses in security and has resulted in harm to the very citizenry these departments are charged to protect.

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the cruelty is the point.
 
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“This incident is being reviewed by CBP’s Office of Professional Responsibility,” a CBP spokesperson wrote in a statement to WIRED. “We will not be getting ahead of this review. A review should not be taken as an indication of wrongdoing.”

The spokesperson went on to say that anyone who protests against, or produces biased fake news coverage of, DHS would immediately be labelled a domestic terrorist and forfeit their constitutional rights and their life.
 
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Maxipad

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Emotion and ease help the surrendering.

Ease as in, it's closer aligned to what they want. There's no challenging or changing required.

Can see it in other things, general preconceived/unconscious notions/biases. The general way that misinformation can spread, because it affirms our assumptions. https://www.apa.org/topics/journalism-facts/how-why-misinformation-spreads Don't know if there's a clearer study available...

I have an old friend who unfortunately believes the MAGA BS along with a lot of other misinformed garbage. During Covid she told me about her anti-vax beliefs and believing Ivermectin was a better treatment. She should've known better as she has some education but still fell for that crap.

I finally told her that she preferred comforting lies to the sometimes uncomfortable truth.

Some people just want simplistic, glib answers that confirm whatever nonsense they want to believe that makes them feel good.

The US is full of poorly educated people these days due to deliberate cuts to the public education system. Those folks will believe any BS they're fed if it confirms whatever nonsense they want to believe and is repeated loudly enough.
 
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