Right - no ex soviet scientists were ever employed by Iran on its ballistic missiles ...The ISS did it's job wonderfully wrt Russia: All of the ex-Soviet rocket engineers stayed employed until retirement so they didn't need to seek work in places like Iran and North Korea.
I think that's one of the reasons I just cannot get excited about SpaceX achievements. We are moving form having international collaboration between nation states, to a space era where a bunch of rich guys can launch whatever they want, no matter how dumb it is (like data centers or cars).I hate the idea that the ISS deorbit is becoming a real thing.. that's coming up fast.
It'll be such an incalculable and irreplaceable loss for humanity.. we couldn't replicate it with current capabilities, even if we had the will and resources (which we don't). What comes next will be a pale imitation at best.
Please, no.Fun for us amateurs to speculate, but really, get the archaeologists and museologists involved.
And biologists: bring back multiple samples of the evolved microbiome on board.
The only thing we can't replicate is the spirit of international cooperation. So we will end up with 2+ smaller stations, China already has one, India might give it a try in a decade, NASA will launch a new one and ESA will join (or not, if POTUS pull some serious bullshit). Russia probably could launch another MIR, if they weren't busy destroying own and neighbor countries.we couldn't replicate it with current capabilities
I don't know why this is getting downvoted... the entire station is a historical artifact, likely to be of interest to future historians. I know the logistics of trying to save it are quite tricky, and maybe all but impossible, but I really do think we should at least be investigating options to preserve the largest portion of it that can be saved. Even if it's a module or three, a scaffolding here and there, something to preserve the essence of what it was [is].The International Space Station.
It can’t preserved it in space, so it would have to be preserved on the ground. Which means you would pretty much have to rebuild the space shuttle to do that. And you’ve got about 5 years to do it. I don’t see the point in dedicating the entire NASA organisation for half a decade to save a few knick-knacks.I don't know why this is getting downvoted... the entire station is a historical artifact, likely to be of interest to future historians. I know the logistics of trying to save it are quite tricky, and maybe all but impossible, but I really do think we should at least be investigating options to preserve the largest portion of it that can be saved. Even if it's a module or three, a scaffolding here and there, something to preserve the essence of what it was [is].
ISS produces about 350 science papers a year, which isn't bad considering science is only a secondary goal - it's mainly a technology testbed for human spaceflight. HST is about 1000 papers a year, so only half an order of magnitude more. Chandra and Spitzer are about the same as ISS.Frankly, the average orbital telescope has contributed an order of magnitude more to science than the ISS. If it isn't worth it to bring Spitzer or Chandra or even Hubble home, the ISS isn't worth it either.
Those at least would have some animation. The galley table, the cupola, most other stuff are are just going to sit there. The arms could be in motion, showing how stuff was moved around.Personally, I'd like to bring home all the different arms and cranes, but that's likely due to me anthropomorphizing them as "crew" who helped to build and operate the station.
If "number of papers" is how we measure contribution to science then Didier Raoult is a greater luminary than Isaac Newton.ISS produces about 350 science papers a year, which isn't bad considering science is only a secondary goal - it's mainly a technology testbed for human spaceflight. HST is about 1000 papers a year, so only half an order of magnitude more. Chandra and Spitzer are about the same as ISS.