Anti-vaccine groups melt down over reports RFK Jr. to link autism to Tylenol
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The problem isn't packaging, but that we don't treat vitamin supplements as medicines. You don't know you're getting what is on the label. Then it is pushed by supplement companies in ways that are dangerous to sell more product.
On top of that, if some of these were packaged in blister packs of 12, they'd still be dangerous. Some of the stuff being sold, a single daily dose for long term can be toxic by themselves (primarily some of the fat soluble ones) or are hard on your other organs to remove them from the body.
If people were taking supplements based on doctor and pharmacist recommendations, and they were based on rational medical reasons it wouldn't be a problem.
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When anti-vaxxer loons are looking like the reasonable* side, you know things have gotten out of hand.
Monty Python couldn't do a sillier version of a government administration. (Or a more dangerous one).
*Not actually reasonable, just relative to RFK jr
Monty Python couldn't do a sillier version of a government administration. (Or a more dangerous one).
*Not actually reasonable, just relative to RFK jr
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The problem as described is very much packaging. The tablets claim to contain 4,000 units. A usual daily dose is 1,000 units unless prescribed more (which would be based on a vitamin D deficiency). They're packaging a dangerously high dose.
If in addition the pills don't actually contain what they claim to contain that's a separate problem. As is the separate problem of drug interactions.
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Just because usage directions are printed on the packaging, doesn't mean they're a packaging problem. If the directions said to take four 1000 mg tablets daily (and there are supplements like calcium that have therapeutic doses that require multiple tablets), it would be the same problem as directions to take one 4000 mg tablet.
The dose in a tablet is based on the directions for use and the feasibility for having that much of the substance in the tablet. So if the only correct dose is 4000mg, then it is ideal to have people take a single 4000 mg tablet. Having people have to count out tablets potentially introduces errors.
Improper use directions is its own problem.
Packaging problems relate to things like medicine safety. For instance, if a medicine is only for short term use, then it should be sold in quantities that reflect that. So if you shouldn't use a medicine OTC for more than a week, you shouldn't sell a bottle with over a year's worth of medicine in it. Blister packs are used to make it harder to overdose or abuse a medication.
For instance, having a bottle with a thousand tasty vitamin gummies with a non-child proof cap is a packaging problem.
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Yeah, most of the "standard" vitamins are pretty darned cheap if they're sold as a standalone one. My aunt needs B12 and I got her a year supply and change at Costco for $10. I'm not sure what the max dosage on that is but I'd bet it's a lot less than the full bottle.
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This makes sense! I mean, you can have a bit of malaise after a vaccine. You take Tylenol to get through the day and bang, your baby has autism! My god! We have got to stop this! RFK?? RFK!!!
911 what is your emergency? Get me RFK on the line!
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have Bobby Jr and Trump considered that autism was identified in 1911 by a Swiss psychiatrist and Tylenol not invented until 1955?
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I wondered about a potential connection to Fever, since that would be something you might use Tylenol for during pregnancy. This is the first study I found.
https://www.nature.com/articles/mp2017119
One section was of particular interest:
So in the case of Fever, Tylenol may actually lower the risk of Autism as it lowers fever.
https://www.nature.com/articles/mp2017119
One section was of particular interest:
So in the case of Fever, Tylenol may actually lower the risk of Autism as it lowers fever.
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Sure thing, and that is why so many members of the NAS are actually creationists. I said nothing about "working hard" since some creationists actually do the work to get a degree, but then they ignore the very core of their degree to peddle garbage. It does require a special kind of "intelligence" to believe the terminally counterfactual. From Wikipedia: "Intelligent design is a pseudoscientific argument for the existence of God, presented by its proponents as "an evidence-based scientific theory about life's origins". Proponents claim that "certain features of the universe and of living things are best explained by an intelligent cause, not an undirected process such as natural selection." ID is a form of creationism that lacks empirical support and offers no testable or tenable hypotheses, and is therefore not science." Feel free to show the "intelligence" in creationism.
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If the Aussies write about our downfall, it will still be in English. And on the bright side, the Aussies might be the only ones with enough swears in their vocabulary for this stupidity.
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I am sure RFK Jr is an expert on vaccines with many peer review articles in the medical circles and is well respect expert in that field.
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TEAM AMERIKA! WORLD POLIS!
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TEAM AMERIKA! WORLD POLIS!
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The American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists (ACOG) said "pregnant people". Therefore the reply will be disregarded by the MAGAts.
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Equally true if it's Indians who inherit global leadership, which is rather more likely than an Australian hegemony.
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Sure, but Australia will hold out independence until India can amass enough forces in Indonesia! (Risk rules)
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They didn't get to that point. They stopped listening when they realized it was an expert who was speaking.
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I’m not sure how my lamenting the political destruction of any hope for autism management and treatment for the next generation managed to be seen as a positive statement supporting the people doing the destruction?
I am a fan of the republicans the same way the character AM was a fan of humanity.
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I'm not arguing here; I just don't understand the reference. What is "the character AM"?
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Apologies: character from the Harlan Ellison short story, I Have no Mouth and I Must Scream. Famous for his verbosity in regards to his hatred for humanity.
Best metaphor I have in me for how I feel when someone tries to call me a Republican on Ars.
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Ah! Right, my brain just wasn't connecting it and it's too late to blame too much blood in my caffeine stream.
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Started this when the article was only a couple days old, but got distracted before posting. Decided (probably incorrectly) it was still worth sharing...
Good show, great episode and scene, but that part was totally a rip-off of/homage to the classic sci-fi story A Canticle for Leibowitz.
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Prof Dave rips the shit out of RFK Jr and Trump over Tylenol - Autism claims:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohsYDUj0gfU
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohsYDUj0gfU
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That's scary. In the UK everything that contains Paracetamol is clearly marked as containing Paracetamol for exactly that reason. Same with other over the counter painkillers like Ibuprofen.
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