Anti-Trump Instagram pic of seashells now enough to indict ex-FBI directors

Ken Fisher

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The legal foundation here is incredibly thin. You might say, wafer thin /Monty

In Watts v. United States (1969), the Supreme Court overturned the conviction of a man who literally said he wanted to put LBJ in his rifle sights, finding it was political hyperbole protected by the First Amendment. Comey posted a photo of seashells. The standard has actually gotten harder for prosecutors since Watts: the 2023 Counterman decision requires showing that a speaker subjectively understood their message would be perceived as threatening.

Also, Matt Gaetz used "86'd" to describe ousting Republican leaders. Jack Posobiec tweeted "8646" about Biden. Neither was investigated, of course.
 
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JaneBird

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Sometimes I wish cognitive dissonance was better at asserting itself instead of just sort of dissolving in the face of ideological conviction.

I suppose growing from challenges to your worldview is reserved for us proles who aren't in charge of, for example, an entire country.

I regularly question myself and my actions even when the answer seems like it should be obvious because there is always a chance I've overlooked something. I wonder what it's like to just start from the premise that you're right about everything? Goes to the article. That's not something you can really do in wage labor and service job.
 
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I know it's just a screenshot from a video, a snapshot in time which can result in all sorts of unintended expressions on people's faces... but wow do these guys look pissed.

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Can we (meaning the entire Democratic Party apparatus) finally get on the same page and admit that "when they go low, we go high" has completely and utterly failed as a political strategy and that there need to be swift and severe consequences attached to anyone within this administration and who has enabled them?

Because the longer this goes on without any real attempt at opposition, the more emboldened they will become and the quicker we get to the end stage of this, which is them erecting gallows on the National Mall and straight up hanging anyone who gets in their way or simply annoys them.
 
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I know it's just a screenshot from a video, a snapshot in time which can result in all sorts of unintended expressions on people's faces... but wow do these guys look pissed.

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I dunno about looking pissed more like bloated, constipated, and those monkey suits look either too small or too big for these fuckers. Guess that's what happens when you binge on TACO.
 
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I've always known '86' in the context of banning someone from an establishment.
It's also short for "take this off the menu" and typically done when you're out of ingredients, or too many people are ordering a low-margin item, or you're in the weeds and don't have the time to cook a certain complicated dish.

Short of a major supply issue, at every restaurant where I've worked a dish typically went back on the menu, like, the day after an 86? It certainly wasn't "killed" -- unless the chefs and management were discussing menus, at which point the term was just portable industry jargon.
 
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Can we (meaning the entire Democratic Party apparatus) finally get on the same page and admit that "when they go low, we go high" has completely and utterly failed as a political strategy and that there need to be swift and severe consequences attached to anyone within this administration and who has enabled them?

Because the longer this goes on without any real attempt at opposition, the more emboldened they will become and the quicker we get to the end stage of this, which is them erecting gallows on the National Mall and straight up hanging anyone who gets in their way or simply annoys them.
Then there’s this:

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However, that wasn’t the king’s enemy on the receiving end of the guillotine. And those wishing to set themselves up as a tyrannical king should remember that.
 
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Nishioka

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I learned what 86 meant in a foodservice context in an episode of Kitchen Nightmares. 86 the french fries!

This will get tossed too because everyone in the orange stain's orbit are certified, true-believer idiots

Yeah, I think everybody (including the president himself) would be surprised if that weren't the outcome. The process is, of course, the punishment.
 
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This is nothing but Trumplethinkskin using the DoJ to harass people who have pointed out his ill deeds.

If there is any justice,the judge will summarily dismiss the case (hopefully with ten or twelve "86" refereces) and enjoin the DoJ from further action against Comey.
If there is any justice Trump and his minions will be convicted of barratry.
 
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This is a SPAPP - Strategic Prosecution Against Public Participation. If you want to say bad things about the incompetent clown, he's going to make sure it costs you personally. So now Comey has to lawyer up and deal with the trial, which personally costs him stress and money, even if the charges are laughably stupid. And it doesn't cost Donnie "Clown Shoes" Trump a dime.
 
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To "86" someone is generally understood to get rid of them. It could mean to kill them or it could mean to fire them among the meanings. Context is king of course. Regardless, the post was obviously not a threat and clearly protected speech. If this doesn't get thrown out for vindictive prosecution and goes to trial the chances of the government getting any kind of conviction are zero.
 
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Mike “Vermicelli-Spine” Johnson will probably propose a lese majesté law so they can do this stuff without looking so very desperate and foolish.
So it'll be a 10 year jail term for insulting the greatest present America ever had (like they have in Thailand for the King, his royal family, dependents, and other people who were King before?).

See https://democratic-erosion.org/2025...cebook-posts-the-implications-of-section-112/

But would Trump ever appoint his dog to oversee the Air Force though?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fufu_(dog)
 
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dmsilev

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As we have learned just in a single day, the federal government is willing to come after your broadcast licenses if you make a joke that Trump doesn’t like… and your freedom if you make social media posts that Trump doesn’t like. These are apparently the ways in which Trump is fulfilling his promise to halt government “censorship” of US citizens.
Also, last night the DOJ submitted what was basically a Truth Social post as a legal filing in the ballroom case. Screenshot of the first page in the spoiler. Though arguably it's pre-spoiled.
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ZenBeam

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This is nothing but Trumplethinkskin using the DoJ to harass people who have pointed out his ill deeds.

If there is any justice,the judge will summarily dismiss the case (hopefully with ten or twelve "86" refereces) and enjoin the DoJ from further action against Comey.
Pretty sure you meant Trumplethinskin. There's certainly no thinking involved with Trumple.
 
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