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[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=26735121#p26735121:2itj0kl5 said:
drfisheye[/url]":2itj0kl5]Any statistics on Chromebook sales yet?
Accurate ones? No. But Chromebooks seem to be doing fairly well in the USA, likely outselling MacBooks.

Chromebooks have the huge advantage of being cheap $250 computers in a time when the extremely popular $250 Windows-based netbooks have left the market (due to low margins). Chromebooks only exist through Google subsidy (because of the low margin problem).

The biggest market for Chromebooks are education and home users that want a "locked down" kind of kiosk system for kids that just runs a web browser. Every purchase I have seen was for this reason.

You might think business would also like the Chromebook for this reason, but you'd be wrong. The Chromebook can't run ANY of the LOB apps run in even the smallest businesses (no Quickbooks for example). And there is no Java on Chromebooks, that rules out almost all large business.
 
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[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=26735121#p26735121:1pnc50nc said:
drfisheye[/url]":1pnc50nc]Any statistics on Chromebook sales yet?
Accurate ones? No. But Chromebooks seem to be doing fairly well in the USA, likely outselling MacBooks.

Chromebooks have the huge advantage of being cheap $250 computers in a time when the extremely popular $250 Windows-based netbooks have left the market (due to low margins). Chromebooks only exist through Google subsidy (because of the low margin problem).

The biggest market for Chromebooks are education and home users that want a "locked down" kind of kiosk system for kids that just runs a web browser. Every purchase I have seen was for this reason.

You might think business would also like the Chromebook for this reason, but you'd be wrong. The Chromebook can't run ANY of the LOB apps run in even the smallest businesses (no Quickbooks for example). And there is no Java on Chromebooks, that rules out almost all large business.
We're seriously considering warehousing a bunch of chromebooks as part of our DR plan since we already rely on Citrix access to get folks into our DR datacenter (not nearly enough bandwidth for everyone to VPN in) and there's now a nice HTML5 Citrix client available with Chromebook as a supported platform.
 
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[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=26765911#p26765911:25c9jxoa said:
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[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=26735121#p26735121:25c9jxoa said:
drfisheye[/url]":25c9jxoa]Any statistics on Chromebook sales yet?
Accurate ones? No. But Chromebooks seem to be doing fairly well in the USA, likely outselling MacBooks.

Chromebooks have the huge advantage of being cheap $250 computers in a time when the extremely popular $250 Windows-based netbooks have left the market (due to low margins). Chromebooks only exist through Google subsidy (because of the low margin problem).

The biggest market for Chromebooks are education and home users that want a "locked down" kind of kiosk system for kids that just runs a web browser. Every purchase I have seen was for this reason.

You might think business would also like the Chromebook for this reason, but you'd be wrong. The Chromebook can't run ANY of the LOB apps run in even the smallest businesses (no Quickbooks for example). And there is no Java on Chromebooks, that rules out almost all large business.
Given the increasing capabilties of JS via HTML5 apis, i am unsure about considering chromebooks locked down.

BTW, i just read something about the Jetson board being benchmarked to rival Bay Trail based Celerons.
 
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I must be in the minority, but I am excited for this laptop and will probably buy one. It's all about the software, and there are many android apps that I really like. I love my Nexus 7, but sometimes you need a keyboard, and I'm not into the whole "keyboard built into the tablet case" idea, which looks really terrible in my opinion.
 
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[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=26765981#p26765981:3gtedxqf said:
afidel[/url]":3gtedxqf]We're seriously considering warehousing a bunch of chromebooks as part of our DR plan since we already rely on Citrix access to get folks into our DR datacenter (not nearly enough bandwidth for everyone to VPN in) and there's now a nice HTML5 Citrix client available with Chromebook as a supported platform.

This is a comparison chart of the clients and their features. You'll see that HTML5 is very sparse on features, make sure there is something you don't need.

Because the Windows client is so much better, you're probably better off spending $50-$100 more to get entry-level Windows laptops.

Though I'm wondering why you think giving everyone a Citrix desktop will use less bandwidth than your VPN.
 
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[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=27054069#p27054069:v7aofrar said:
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[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=26765981#p26765981:v7aofrar said:
afidel[/url]":v7aofrar]We're seriously considering warehousing a bunch of chromebooks as part of our DR plan since we already rely on Citrix access to get folks into our DR datacenter (not nearly enough bandwidth for everyone to VPN in) and there's now a nice HTML5 Citrix client available with Chromebook as a supported platform.

This is a comparison chart of the clients and their features. You'll see that HTML5 is very sparse on features, make sure there is something you don't need.

Because the Windows client is so much better, you're probably better off spending $50-$100 more to get entry-level Windows laptops.

Though I'm wondering why you think giving everyone a Citrix desktop will use less bandwidth than your VPN.
Because it does, significantly less per user. Keeping the documents and apps within the datacenter and having the users just use them uses significantly less bandwidth then user constantly downloading and uploading documents, not to mention they're better protected in the datacenter.
 
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[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=27054907#p27054907:3te09adq said:
afidel[/url]":3te09adq]Keeping the documents and apps within the datacenter and having the users just use them uses significantly less bandwidth then user constantly downloading and uploading documents

What kind of documents are we talking about? Unless we're talking about really large documents (videos, Powerpoint), I doubt that the size of the documents is all that significant compared to the bandwidth consumed streaming desktops (basically, streaming video) to every user.
 
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[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=27061027#p27061027:1whfbgc2 said:
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[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=27054907#p27054907:1whfbgc2 said:
afidel[/url]":1whfbgc2]Keeping the documents and apps within the datacenter and having the users just use them uses significantly less bandwidth then user constantly downloading and uploading documents

What kind of documents are we talking about? Unless we're talking about really large documents (videos, Powerpoint), I doubt that the size of the documents is all that significant compared to the bandwidth consumed streaming desktops (basically, streaming video) to every user.
I don't have to speculate or theorycraft, I have cold hard numbers on my side showing about 66% less bandwidth per user on the Citrix side then on the VPN side of our network.
 
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