Android 14 review: There’s always next year

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It would be great to completely remove developer control from the status bar and navigation bar and always make them transparent, but that's not what this checkbox does. It doesn't seem to work. At least it didn't fix any of the problems I usually run into, like Gmail and Chrome having pointlessly solid navigation bars.
Unfortunately, the app has to manually support the window insets system for this to work. Otherwise, apps you force this on would start drawing content under the status and navigation bars, which could completely break them.
It's something that Android could make mandatory in a future target SDK update, but it does require a significant amount of work to support correctly.
 
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When will Google fix password autofill and make it actually work? Password autofill is nothing but a frustrating experience on Android -- shows up in certain forms but the other 50% of the time you need to switch to your password manager and do copy & paste. By comparison, this just works flawlessly on iOS -- prompt shows up EVERY SINGLE TIME at login screens.

This problem alone is enough to make me consider switching to an iPhone. Many Google employees including those working on Android must face these same problems every day themselves. How can they be ok with it?
 
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- I have always found Android Back button far more logical and intuitive (because it´s predictable) than browsers´ Back button (which highly depends on the way the site is coded). I hope I´ll have the choice to keep it the current way.

- The issue I have with Location is that when I opt for Approximate, somehow some apps detect and refuse it. Apps shouldn't be allowed to know if the Location is Precise or Approximate. Looks like Android 14 won't solve that.

- The Selective media is great news.
 
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While I am sick to death of flat graphic designs (it's been over a decade, we need something new), I can't say that the new design all that great.

Smartphone are definitely commoditized. It's been over 20 years since the first S60 smartphone was released.

I don't see any reason to buy anything other than a mid-ranger these days.

The only thing flagships have going for them are the night time photos. And this gap will become irrelevant in a 2 or 3 years.
 
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I have been postponing this upgrade but I'm downloading it now. I also dislike the phone app taking over the screen when the phone rings so the new fullscreen notification permission sounds good to me.

And based on this review it sounds benign enough to hopefully not have issues after the upgrade.
There's a major issue if you use the multi-user functionality, so you might want to hold off if you use that.

https://meincmagazine.com/gadgets/202...-storage-bug-locks-out-users-remains-unfixed/
 
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While I am sick to death of flat graphic designs (it's been over a decade, we need something new), I can't say that the new design all that great.

Smartphone are definitely commoditized. It's been over 20 years since the first S60 smartphone was released.

I don't see any reason to buy anything other than a mid-ranger these days.

The only thing flagships have going for them are the night time photos. And this gap will become irrelevant in a 2 or 3 years.
Big things that drew me to a flagship is battery life, ram, and extremely bright screen for using in bright rooms/sunlight. I think the screens are just a lot better on flagships than mid range for the most part.
 
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I don't really want a load of new features in the operating system! I'd much rather such features were in optional apps or installed via Google Play Services so all devices benefited. It's not obvious to me that uneventful means bad.
Yeah I would much rather them do more they the hood improvements and better handling of things like passwords and notifications battery use
 
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So what is the source of the 7 years support?

Surely it must have something to do with the software stack being maintainable?
That probably helps, but the big thing for Google Pixel line is they use Google designed CPUs so Google can make sure the drivers are available for future updates. Qualcomm refuses.
 
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When will Google fix password autofill and make it actually work? Password autofill is nothing but a frustrating experience on Android -- shows up in certain forms but the other 50% of the time you need to switch to your password manager and do copy & paste. By comparison, this just works flawlessly on iOS -- prompt shows up EVERY SINGLE TIME at login screens.

This problem alone is enough to make me consider switching to an iPhone. Many Google employees including those working on Android must face these same problems every day themselves. How can they be ok with it?
For apps or web? I find the auto fill for apps works ok, it's web that's pretty messed up... so sounds like a chrome issue.
 
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Notification chime and ringtone volume separation! Fucking finally!!!! Only took them 14 years to implement something so trivial.

Now if only they can get the media volume right, I've had to install an app ever since they fucked it up sometime around KitKat or something, whenever it was they introduced DND to replace silent mode. Maybe in 10 more years?
 
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For apps or web? I find the auto fill for apps works ok, it's web that's pretty messed up... so sounds like a chrome issue.
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I use Firefox for everything, but somewhere along they way they removed the option to open Gmail links in not-Chrome, which has none of my passwords or info.

@mikepers I've had tons of issues since moving to 14. I recommend holding off, if it's not already installed
 
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I wonder how much better Android could be if they took some of the 26 billion they spend on search placement and spent it on improving Android and the Google services that run on it.
every google product is a secondary gig to get people to look at there innovative ads.
you fools abandoned Windows Mobile and Palm for this.
 
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The lock screen clock options are hilarious. People complained about the two-line clock, so we now get 7 goofy variations of it, plus one standard analog clock (that doesn't match the other analog clock widgets), and some bizarre date/time/weather frame thing.
So much this. I still hate the two line clock. At least the "keep it small" option is easy to select. Feels like an afterthought though.
 
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Oh, but I recognize the eternal bitterness of jilted Google Reader users.
It’s amazing to me that it still doesn’t seem to have been equaled. In many ways the death of Google Reader seems to have cut the knees off the growth of RSS in general. Perhaps that was part of the point; people getting updates via RSS feeds aren’t seeing as many ads.

I still use RSS, mostly for keeping tabs on webcomics, but Feedly is kinda bad, especially on mobile. I’m using the paid-for old version of Unread on iOS (from before they went to a tremendously overpriced subscription plan with Unread 2), with Feedly providing the backend. Is there an actual good product in this space, with a decent mobile website and maybe non-evil iOS/Android apps?
 
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It’s amazing to me that it still doesn’t seem to have been equaled. In many ways the death of Google Reader seems to have cut the knees off the growth of RSS in general. Perhaps that was part of the point; people getting updates via RSS feeds aren’t seeing as many ads.

I still use RSS, mostly for keeping tabs on webcomics, but Feedly is kinda bad, especially on mobile. I’m using the paid-for old version of Unread on iOS (from before they went to a tremendously overpriced subscription plan with Unread 2), with Feedly providing the backend. Is there an actual good product in this space, with a decent mobile website and maybe non-evil iOS/Android apps?
Fwiw, I personally use theoldreader.com on desktop, but I've never actually tested how it does on mobile.
 
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It’s amazing to me that it still doesn’t seem to have been equaled. In many ways the death of Google Reader seems to have cut the knees off the growth of RSS in general. Perhaps that was part of the point; people getting updates via RSS feeds aren’t seeing as many ads.

I still use RSS, mostly for keeping tabs on webcomics, but Feedly is kinda bad, especially on mobile. I’m using the paid-for old version of Unread on iOS (from before they went to a tremendously overpriced subscription plan with Unread 2), with Feedly providing the backend. Is there an actual good product in this space, with a decent mobile website and maybe non-evil iOS/Android apps?
I use Reeder with Feedly as the backend (though its iCloud local service is very good, just didn’t fit my specific needs). IMO Reeder is the best RSS app for Apple devices. Clean, customizable, and fast to triage.
 
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Material You somehow always looks worse every time they update it.
I've been on the samsung beta and I don't really see the purpose of predictive back. You have to slowly use the gesture, so it's a very purposeful action as opposed to a quick "fling" from the side to back, and it works so rarely that I have yet to use it outside of consciously wanting to try it.
 
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every google product is a secondary gig to get people to look at there innovative ads.
you fools abandoned Windows Mobile and Palm for this.
 

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It’s amazing to me that it still doesn’t seem to have been equaled. In many ways the death of Google Reader seems to have cut the knees off the growth of RSS in general. Perhaps that was part of the point; people getting updates via RSS feeds aren’t seeing as many ads.

I still use RSS, mostly for keeping tabs on webcomics, but Feedly is kinda bad, especially on mobile. I’m using the paid-for old version of Unread on iOS (from before they went to a tremendously overpriced subscription plan with Unread 2), with Feedly providing the backend. Is there an actual good product in this space, with a decent mobile website and maybe non-evil iOS/Android apps?
gReader on Android works great - as close to the functionality of Google Reader as I could find. One of the few apps I am happy to pay for.

Note: the gReader developer went dark for a few years, but they've been back for awhile now. I use Feedly as the back end, but gReader supports several options.
 
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So much this. I still hate the two line clock. At least the "keep it small" option is easy to select. Feels like an afterthought though.
I took what I felt was a weird amount of anti-pushback when I complained about the two line clock:

Me: "So it takes up the whole screen?"
"Yeah."
Me: "This line - why is it bolded, in a heavier weight vs. the first two digits?"
"Iono."
Me: "And the entire layout of the lock screen has to change when I get a notification that scales down 5 characters from an entire screen to a totally different layout where those 5 characters sensibly fit on a single line so I can be shown a/some notifications?"
"Yep."
Me: "Thanks, I hate it."
"But what don't you like about it? You don't even have any reasons, you just hate change."
 
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