Reminder, you don't have to rely on Google. I don't. Let Lee show you the way:
Enough is enough—I dumped Google’s worsening search for Kagi
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I think it's deeper than that, even. Yes, sites are littered with ads, but hosting isn't cheap and people have been conditioned over they years to never pay for a service or to visit a site, so the money has to come from somewhere. But all AI mode in Google's searches will do is ensure that any business that ever wants to be recommended by Gemini will pay - and pay continually - to Google to even be visible in AI mode at all, and informational sites - if they have funding at all - will be publishing into the void, their only visitors AI bots that scrape the content for their training models.So the 'value' is copyright-laundering the entire internet to keep you in their little box? I can see why they'd like the idea; but that's a kill it with fire for everyone else.
"We can measure this factor quantitatively, therefore this factor has value" plus "a factor that cannot be measured quantitatively has no value"This change is well underway, and the very reasonable objections to this path will not dissuade the company. All the metrics that matter to Google say this is the right move.
You can do the same thing with google, if that's your bag.Add this to your Firefox Search settings and make it defalt.
https://noai.duckduckgo.com/search?q=%s
Been using it for a while. It is not great, but apparently "no ai".
Sure miss pure boolean searches (especially the "not" function"
Reminder, you don't have to rely on Google. I don't. Let Lee show you the way:
Enough is enough—I dumped Google’s worsening search for Kagi
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It's worth it.I hate subscriptions, but I suppose I'll have to pony up for Kagi.
My beef is that Google sets the standard, so their ideas tend to percolate out. I've been using Bing for a while, and they tend to follow Google Search in terms of features I don't want. (AI summaries, sponsored links inserted into search results...)change your default search provider.
i know it's a scary step to take, but let me assure you: other companies can do search too.
AI Mode is not the same thing as the AI overview. Google is claiming that the number of people actively seeking out the AI Mode search is doubling every quarter, now at over 1 billion people (1/8 of the entire world). Whatever is driving that, it isn't surprising at all with that kind of growth that Google would pursue this.It's easy to use AI for searching when it's your only option.
The people have spoken! They love their only option!
Odd, since a cursory search online reveals loads of them.Liz Reid confirms that Google has not heard your complaints.
Startpage search still gives Google results without Google bullshit. And can easily be added to Firefox also.Add this to your Firefox Search settings and make it defalt.
https://noai.duckduckgo.com/search?q=%s
Been using it for a while. It is not great, but apparently "no ai".
Sure miss pure boolean searches (especially the "not" function"
I think it's deeper than that, even. Yes, sites are littered with ads, but hosting isn't cheap and people have been conditioned over they years to never pay for a service or to visit a site, so the money has to come from somewhere. But all AI mode in Google's searches will do is ensure that any business that ever wants to be recommended by Gemini will pay - and pay continually - to Google to even be visible in AI mode at all, and informational sites - if they have funding at all - will be publishing into the void, their only visitors AI bots that scrape the content for their training models.
This is the future of the internet.
I have never been so pleased to pay for a product in my life.Reminder, you don't have to rely on Google. I don't. Let Lee show you the way:
Enough is enough—I dumped Google’s worsening search for Kagi
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^^^Reminder, you don't have to rely on Google. I don't. Let Lee show you the way:
Enough is enough—I dumped Google’s worsening search for Kagi
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Yes. Between Kagi and Proton, I am happy to be the customer, not the product.I have never been so pleased to pay for a product in my life.
I get a bit of AI swill when using DuckDuck. It 's always showing an AI summary (Search Assist) at the top of the results - and usually a Wikipedia note to the right side, but you can completely turn the assist off through a settings option. Most of the time the Assist box shows up late, after I've already found the link I'm looking for. It's horrid with coding questions I have. I was looking for help with an esoteric tikz problem and the code it provided was totally nuts wrong.Add this to your Firefox Search settings and make it defalt.
https://noai.duckduckgo.com/search?q=%s
Been using it for a while. It is not great, but apparently "no ai".
Sure miss pure boolean searches (especially the "not" function"
The real shit of it is, we are all paying for it. The advertising money doesn't come from nowhere, it comes from people buying the products that advertise. While any individual person may get more in content than they pay in higher product prices, it has to even out, net. With extra inefficiencies and costs thrown in (the marketing firms want their cut, and people's time and attention has value) for good measure.I think it's deeper than that, even. Yes, sites are littered with ads, but hosting isn't cheap and people have been conditioned over they years to never pay for a service or to visit a site, so the money has to come from somewhere. But all AI mode in Google's searches will do is ensure that any business that ever wants to be recommended by Gemini will pay - and pay continually - to Google to even be visible in AI mode at all, and informational sites - if they have funding at all - will be publishing into the void, their only visitors AI bots that scrape the content for their training models.
This is the future of the internet.
I set my ticking clock to close my my GMail account in 7 months. I gave it a year from moving everything over to Kagi and ProtonMail, as a safety margin in case something/someone I missed comes up I'll catch it. So far in 5 months all I see is spam still rolling in.^^^^^^
Now to get rid of gmail. I have largely migrated my most important accounts to Proton mail, but that gmail address has been sold to so many spam lists, that its AI will continue to train on its corpse long after I have closed it entirely.
I've disentangled myself from Google entirely...except for mail and YouTube. Mail is in progress, but I don't know what I'm going to do about YouTube. I consume a lot of content via YT that doesn't exist anywhere else.^^^^^^
Now to get rid of gmail. I have largely migrated my most important accounts to Proton mail, but that gmail address has been sold to so many spam lists, that its AI will continue to train on its corpse long after I have closed it entirely.
What is that supposed to do for you?