Ah jeez, Microsoft, I didn't realize the version of Windows I'm running was too recent to be in the public domain! But I'm sure that library of Xbox games is OK, right?Kamath may not have realized the books were too recent to be in the public domain.
Or to Gregory Maguire (Wicked, based off of Wizard of Oz), or to Margaret Atwood (The Penelopiad, retelling of Homer's Odyssey), or to any of the authors that have been engaged in modern retellings of Grimms' fairy tales, or to the many authors that have expanded the Sherlock Holmes "universe", or...“No one wants to write fan fiction about books that are in the public domain.”
Tell that to Virgil.
Haven't you heard? At this "evolved" stage in human history, "all art works are derivative by definition" so shameless borrowing of characters, plots, imagery, components of ostensibly "original" music, et al are fair game. "Originality is a lie, bro." Everyone should just be able to make whatever they want, from whatever source material they want, and profit.Or to Gregory Maguire (Wicked, based off of Wizard of Oz), or to Margaret Atwood (The Penelopiad, retelling from Homer's Odyssey), or to any of the authors that have been engaged in modern retellings of Grimm's fairy tales, or to the many authors that have expanded the Sherlock Holmes "universe", or...
“No one wants to write fan fiction about books that are in the public domain.”
Tell that to Virgil.
And my daughter thought the originals were delightful at the time. If only we had "AI" to find even more exciting paths...Harry meets a new friend on the Hogwarts Express train who tells him all about Microsoft’s Native Vector Support in SQL “in the Muggle world.”
Them slithy toves gonna mess you up good! Make you all mimsy.Man, as a professional technical writer, the idea that you would let people publish stuff without even a basic knowledge of copyrights and trademark is mind blowing. I recently used a stanza from Jabberwocky and, even though I was fairly certain it was in the public domain, I verified it just to make sure.
This appears to be a somewhat common problem—if you do a web search for "archive redirecting to RT" you'll see many reports of it on reddit and hackernews and other sites. Turning off your VPN reportedly fixes the issue; it's also possible that switching your DNS will fix it.The archive link at the start of the article is redirecting to RT news
Snow White and the Seven dwarfs have a lot of fan fiction.....ya know“No one wants to write fan fiction about books that are in the public domain.”
Tell that to Virgil.
Or to Gregory Maguire (Wicked, based off of Wizard of Oz), or to Margaret Atwood (The Penelopiad, retelling of Homer's Odyssey), or to any of the authors that have been engaged in modern retellings of Grimms' fairy tales, or to the many authors that have expanded the Sherlock Holmes "universe", or...
(edited to fix typos as I noticed them)
What better way to show “engaging and relatable examples” of Microsoft’s new feature that would “resonate with a wide audience” than to “use a well-known dataset” like Harry Potter books, the blog said.
The examples given (the originals of Wizard of Oz, Grimm’s fairy tales, Sherlock Holmes, Homer’s works, Alice in Wonderland, and others) really are public domain, and contain characters and stories that are still very popular, so could have been freely used for this. Using things that are so obviously still under copyright, and using them so blatantly (with instructions on how to download them) should make it hard for a court to buy the “derivative” argument, and deservedly so. It would be nice for the courts to stomp hard on all the AI companies - unfortunately for us, given the money involved, the current administration, and how much of the judiciary appears beholden to the administration, it seems unlikely to happen.Haven't you heard? At this "evolved" stage in human history, "all art works are derivative by definition" so shameless borrowing of characters, plots, imagery, components of ostensibly "original" music, et al are fair game. "Originality is a lie, bro." Everyone should just be able to make whatever they want, from whatever source material they want, and profit.
Looks at modern vampire / werewolf romance stories“No one wants to write fan fiction about books that are in the public domain.”
Tell that to Virgil.
The archive link at the start of the article is redirecting to RT news
Copyright infringement is a civil law matter, not a criminal law one. It would be pursued by copyright holders and is not affected by attorney general's competence or attitude“if a company is risk averse, this would probably be flagged.”
Problem is (for the public), that risks for corporations, generally, are massively diminished with the current administration.
(having a convicted felon as a POTUS used to be an unfathomably ludicrous idea)
But it is being impacted by the Trump packed SCOTUS and increasingly the federal courts that view the oligarchy and corporations as having more rights than those of us who create.Copyright infringement is a civil law matter, not a criminal law one. It would be pursued by copyright holders and is not affected by attorney general's competence or attitude
I thought US copyright terms were currently death-of-the-author-plus-70-years?Just in case anyone is under the mistaken impression that copyright terms are reasonable, I’ll note for the record that the Harry Potter books will not enter the public domain for another CENTURY. If we’re lucky.
I thought US copyright terms were currently death-of-the-author-plus-70-years?
It's not a VPN issue. I've encountered it before without going through a VPN. In fact, it seems to happen a lot with links posted in Ars' own The Soapbox; more often than not I get the RT redirect rather than what the poster was trying to link to.This appears to be a somewhat common problem—if you do a web search for "archive redirecting to RT" you'll see many reports of it on reddit and hackernews and other sites. Turning off your VPN reportedly fixes the issue; it's also possible that switching your DNS will fix it.
(FWIW, the link works fine for me—screenshot).
JKR is going to be around for a while longer, a few decades. That plus 70 years is a century plus or minusI thought US copyright terms were currently death-of-the-author-plus-70-years?
Microsoft deletes blog telling users to train AI on pirated Harry Potter books
For example, which public domain works are available for use as examples.Ashley Belanger said:To do this, he likened it to having a spell that helps you find exactly what you need among thousands of options, instantly...
Ashley Belanger said:Hacker News commenters suggested the blog could be considered fair use, since the training guide was for “educational purposes,” and Smith said that Microsoft could raise some “good arguments” in its defense.
They can post links to pirate data sets without issue as long as it's in a teaching context?Ashley Belanger said:On Hacker News, some commenters defended Kamath’s blog, urging that it should be considered fair use since nonprofits and educational institutions could do the same thing in a teaching context without issue.
Why is problem? Do you not want to read glorious news of Russia Today, tovarisch?!It's not a VPN issue. I've encountered it before without going through a VPN. In fact, it seems to happen a lot with links posted in Ars' own The Soapbox; more often than not I get the RT redirect rather than what the poster was trying to link to.
A ‘Senior Product Manager’ would know that the HP books are not public. Hell, a ham sandwich would know that JKR is still around and still owns her books. That there were no repercussions for Pooja Kamath says a lot about Microsoft. This was deliberate. It was the product of a ‘steal first and if we get caught deny, delay, and excuse’ culture that is the core of Microsoft, the Tech Bro psyche, and all AI systems.The blog, which is archived here, was written in November 2024 by a senior product manager, Pooja Kamath. According to her LinkedIn, Kamath has been at Microsoft for more than a decade and remains with the company.
A ‘Senior Product Manager’ would know that the HP books are not public. Hell, a ham sandwich would know that JKR is still around and still owns her books. That there were no repercussions for Pooja Kamath says a lot about Microsoft. This was deliberate. It was the product of a ‘steal first and if we get caught deny, delay, and excuse’ culture that is the core of Microsoft, the Tech Bro psyche, and all AI systems.
It might be Archive.is / Archive.today doing the redirecting, since the link seems fine. I copied and pasted it into another window, and got a reCaptcha page. It may be some way to mitigate high traffic.It's not a VPN issue. I've encountered it before without going through a VPN. In fact, it seems to happen a lot with links posted in Ars' own The Soapbox; more often than not I get the RT redirect rather than what the poster was trying to link to.
I can't wait to read Margaret Atwood 's novel inspired by Microsoft’s Native Vector Support.