It's insane how you don't realize you aren't even part of the conversation.
You think talking about ethnicities or sexualities is woke. You dropped Windows for Apple because it was simpler. FFS, you follow NFL xD.
I can't even START to think about how to make you look worse than you're willingly showing yourself to be xD
It's already a thing. Apple TV+ costs $13 for a single month, $99 for an annual subscription. I like some of their shows, but only some, few enough that I can easily work through two or three series in a single month, and then there's nothing else of interest to me until the next batch arrives. That's still a $86 per year savings for me. And Apple makes if super-easy to both subscribe and cancel. But tiered pricing is definitely a thing.I think one big, obvious step is missing. Their big problem is churn. Prime subscribe for one show, watch 2-3, then leave. An annual contract would sort that out. Tie it to a price increase and offer the old price on an annual deal.
It has to be around the corner.
I will NOT be sports- shamed. I'm a proud NFL watcher and I don't care who knows it!
Also all of the myriad of posters ITT complaining about how there are all these streaming channels but there is nothing to watch despite them spending billions on content. Ignoring the elephant in the room for one of the major reasons for that triggers my OCD so I feel compelled to point that out. It's a blessing and a curse I tell you.
Gotta mention: Megalopolis, Coppla's vanity project, cost something like $150 million to make - out of Coppola's own pocket.Fine, just don't make those of us who don't give a flying fig about the NFL subsidize your cost.
Consider that it is VERY possible to spend billions creating content and still end up with dreck. "Reality" shows are super-duper cheap to make because talentless morons don't cost much. You don't even have set expenses, just a couple of clowns with cameras and someone pretending to be a director. Again, all very cheap. But make enough of those shows and you can spend billions with only raw sewage to show for it.
Gotta mention: Megalopolis, Coppla's vanity project, cost something like $150 million to make - out of Coppola's own pocket.
It's worldwide box office totaled $14 million.
It's the hottest of garbage, according to those who've seen it. I considered streaming it, but that's impossible now thanks to Coppola's massive ego insisting that it MUST be seen in theaters, or not seen at all.
Vast numbers of people chose Option Two.
I'm currently trying to get through the remainder of Deep Space 9 before it disappears from Netflix on 8th January.
The same thing happened with Jessica Jones, when I was halfway through and it was just suddenly no longer there.
I can't help but think that the downward trend of quality streaming options is inextricably linked to the downward trend of quality content.
Economically, I see decline. Socially?...decline. Educationally?...decline.
These cannot help but be reflected in the cultural product that these declining systems produce.
I just don't see a lot of anything out there that I'd really want to pay a streaming service for.
Eg. Andor. Awesome show. Very watchable.
Do I want to pay for a streaming service on the strength of one series when the rest of the watching cart is just mediocre dreck?
Geez, the amount of "Stop liking what I don't like" here is ridiculous. Do you understand that other VIEWERS don't make YOU pay for anything?Fine, just don't make those of us who don't give a flying fig about the NFL subsidize your cost.
In the case of sports I’m not sure that’s true. Do NFL rights mean there’s extra money for the quirky original shows I like? If so that’s rarely reported.Geez, the amount of "Stop liking what I don't like" here is ridiculous. Do you understand that other VIEWERS don't make YOU pay for anything?
uh , that is exactly how it works. they pay a licensing fee and the cost is passed on to all subscribers.Geez, the amount of "Stop liking what I don't like" here is ridiculous. Do you understand that other VIEWERS don't make YOU pay for anything?
I'm there now with zero subscriptions and I had 6 going during COVID. They all priced themselves out and/or enshitified the product to the point I cancelled or turned off the annual subscription renewal.Just in Time Subscriptions will come with JIT risings costs. Just being realistic. The corps will continue squeezing until people give them the finger.
In the case of sports I’m not sure that’s true. Do NFL rights mean there’s extra money for the quirky original shows I like? If so that’s rarely reported.
Please cite some examples of breaking immersion as related to wokeness? I'm not sure I understand.Lots of people ITT pretending they don't understand the concept of breaking immersion. When they absolutely understand it. Its dishonest. The truth (no pun intended) is they simply do not care because its not their top priority.
Sure - but that's not something that any of us subscribers have any effect on - and I say that as someone who can't stand sports of any kind on TV (with the exception of Robot Warsuh , that is exactly how it works. they pay a licensing fee and the cost is passed on to all subscribers.
There were more than a few examples on Babylon 5 where the "politics" of the station were clearly in reference to what was happening in the world at the time and the "coincidence" of the goings-on on Babylon 5 just happening to match whatever idiocy was currently going on in the American government was so far of a stretch that it absolutely broke the immersion.Please cite some examples of breaking immersion? I'm not sure I understand.
Geez, the amount of "Stop liking what I don't like" here is ridiculous. Do you understand that other VIEWERS don't make YOU pay for anything?
I mean, one million percent this. An anecdote on how badly this got bungled in my opinion, from a self-admitted terrible consumer buying hook-and-sinker into the ecosystem:Gabe Newell famously said that the secret was to give a better service than the pirates. Steam has succeeded in this to an extent, admittedly also bolstered by the increase in malware in pirated releases.
Streaming no longer gives a better service than the pirates. It's not just the expense, it's the massive amounts of busywork required to juggle membership, free trials, accounts etc.. It can take longer to check if you have a currently active account on the relevant streaming service, reactivate, make reminders to cancel in a timely manner etc. than to run a torrent search and download a file via a VPN.
I am a very occasional TV watcher, so this admin load was getting intolerable compared to my levels of motivation. Hell, even trying to find something worth watching on Netflix was a source of stress- they don't really curate their content so there's a lot of brainrot and shovelware on there.
Cancelling reduced my stress considerably. I was paying a lot for a service I wasn't enjoying- it felt like an onerous obligation to interact with it. I told myself I'd re-sub for a month if there was something unmissable, but it hasn't been necessary yet. This is pretty telling.
The enshittification of streaming is making it less attractive and piracy more attractive even to people who can afford to pay. A lot of Business Factory types seem to assume that their users are all primarily financially motivated and that you fix the problem with carefully calibrated demand elasticity-aware pricing. However, it's not the whole solution, not even close. The story does touch on this, but it still feels like it's a point lost on those making the decisions.
Providing a service which is exhausting, annoying or unpleasant to use absolutely will irritate all of your customers, rich or poor.
Give a better service than the pirates. If you don't, don't be shocked when the public seek the path of least resistance in increasing numbers and go elsewhere.
In that version, everyone in the mirror universe is a vegetarian and drives a Nissan Space Leaf. Also they have hipster beards and topknots instead of goatees.“antiwoke” Star Trek
I feel you. Im a baseball fan. Football, I watch now mostly to have something to talk to my father about that isnt politics (hes maga). But it has gotten to the point where the NFL, College Football, MLB, NBA, NHL... are just ad companies. I just almost hate watch baseball now. They will small box the game to show you a commercial between pitches!Live sports is the main reason I never "cut the cord" and streaming is ruining that, too, because I now need a Peacock sub, Apple TV, and Amazon Prime to watch certain games. Fortunately, I'm an oldster and remember when sports fandom required reading ink on dead trees and games were time-delayed or only available on OTA, ad-supported audio, aka "radio." So, suck it, Comcast. I'm not paying you twice to watch the Warriors and the Giants on NBC and Peacock. Those teams just lose my support because I only watch games on NBC.
I have Apple TV through the Apple One bundle and I view Amazon Prime Video as a benefit of having Amazon Prime, but I really don't feel like paying any more than that, or sharing my viewing habits with more companies.
Not to mention that 70% of the ads they run are for sports gambling. Like sure, I was really on the fence about throwing away thousands of dollars on weird parlays, then Kevin Hart came on to the screen to tell me it's a good thing to do, clearly now I'm all set to start gambling! Thanks Draft Kings!I feel you. Im a baseball fan. Football, I watch now mostly to have something to talk to my father about that isnt politics (hes maga). But it has gotten to the point where the NFL, College Football, MLB, NBA, NHL... are just ad companies. I just almost hate watch baseball now. They will small box the game to show you a commercial between pitches!
I suspended my Hulu sub after Nov. until March-ish, and Ill tel you Im not missing it. CFP going on? Dont care. NFL playoff push? Not bothering me a bit. I do think there will come a time for everyone where the line has been reached and they will just decide to do something else. And then we will get that New Yorker cartoon IRL.
It would cost me $100/mo extra to have this utopia of entertainment without ads.Streaming is still infinitely better than cable, much less the four fuzzy broadcast channels of my youth. Having thousands of shows and movies available instantly, without ads, whenever I want, remains the stuff of science fiction.
The decline in quantity of new shows, as well as the rise in prices, is just an inevitable reaction to the unsustainable gold rush at the beginning of the streaming era.
My biggest fear is the gobbling up of more and more media by right wing conglomerates. Paramount swallowing up and destroying CBS news, and now eyeing WB, is the stuff of nightmares. And if they decide to create an “antiwoke” Star Trek, my brain would probably shatter and my soul would shrivel up on the spot.
Do you see the irony in the name calling and appealing to mods for civility? Its only applicable to the respect you think you are owed I guess....aaaaaand here we go with the lowbrow name calling.
I will respectfully ask the mods to give them a little nudge to keep things civil. Not because of my own feelings but because I don't want this to devolve into another fart sniffing contest of who can call somebody a Nazi the hardest. Because you know that is what's coming next. Atomic clocks are less predicable.
I'm slowly following in your footsteps.My wife subscribes to Netflix and BritBox. We dropped Amazon Prime a couple of years ago because we were not buying enough stuff online to justify the price of it.
Me? I run a private Plex server for me and a few of my relatives/friends where I've ripped and encoded a lot of their physical media and posted it for them (as well as all of my own, of course). Not gonna lie - there's also a lot of "acquired" content there as well.
I feel like at this rate, the logical conclusion is that shows will become so crappy that it simply won't be worth my time to pirate, much less watch.Here's what streamers can expect in 2026: more piracy.
I don't have a commercial NAS per se.I'm slowly following in your footsteps.
I'm keeping Prime because, for now - not paying for shipping is still making that a win. Amazon is within a price-hike or two of that equation flipping negative, and it's certainly not Prime Video keeping me on the service. I use it, but incidentally to the overall Prime subscription.
Netflix is one more price hike away from losing me. I have a couple of shows I'll miss there, but "miss" is not "can't live without" and the services need to become clear about that.
I have enough physical media to make a Plex server worthwhile and have been looking into NAS modules for that. I have had a couple of bad experiences with NAS in the past that have been holding me back (bricked hardware because Seagate couldn't be bothered to keep a driver up to date, etc.) but I'm willing to revisit, I think.
Mostly, I've been rediscovering the beauty of books. My Kindle Scribe is big enough for a better reading experience, and e-books mean I don't need the physical bookshelf space for a pretty large and now faster-expanding library.
Honestly, putting on some soft music and reading for the evening is better on my mind than dealing with most other entertainment these days. It's good to be back to it.
Do you see the irony in the name calling and appealing to mods for civility? Its only applicable to the respect you think you are owed I guess.
The beauty of freedom of speech is people can disagree with you, and call you stupid. You can do the same.
You know what wont get you acceptance: whining about being downvoted or crying to mods to back you up.
You should be allowed to speak your opinion. You can say other people are stupid for disagreeing with you. It just helps your position if you are actually high minded about freedom of speech and civility.
If you dont like that, there are plenty of people that agree with you on X.
It's a fantastic option if it works in your location.Possibly mentioned somewhere in the comments...
Check out your local digital over the air channels. You can get a 20-25$ antenna and potentially access a great bit of free content depending on your location.
We can access a ton of good stuff where I'm located.
It's immersion breaking to see non-white non-cis non-straight people in roles set in eras where they wouldn't have existed. That's woke.Please cite some examples of breaking immersion as related to wokeness? I'm not sure I understand.
I feel that the people running these streaming companies are very aware of the risks of churn, but are. choosing to address this in 2 ways.I think one big, obvious step is missing. Their big problem is churn. Prime subscribe for one show, watch 2-3, then leave. An annual contract would sort that out. Tie it to a price increase and offer the old price on an annual deal.
It has to be around the corner.
Even with price hikes for the monthly option or bundle discounts, it's still always going to be the cheaper option to subscribe for a month or two to a single service, watch the best content that was released in the past year, then move on to another service and do the same. I really don't see a way for them to get around that other than ditching monthly plans (which is a huge disincentive for new users) or through live content such as sport (attractive to some users but not others).A monthly price hike that pushes users to subscribe to an annual plan can work too, but I notice that Netflix seems to be the noticeable holdout. Perhaps they know something we don't.![]()