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This is the place for all the new miscellaneous little political stories that crop up this week. This thread will be locked at some point on next Monday, and a new one started. If I forget to start a new one (I have been diagnosed with excessive oldness) someone slip me a reminder on Tuesday along with my newspaper and slippers.
 
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Trump wants to rename the Department of Defense the Department of War.

"Asked by a reporter how he plans to rename the defense department the ‘Department of War’, since that would require an act of Congress, Trump said: “We’re just going to do it. I’m sure Congress will go along, if we need that, I don’t think we even need that”."

"Defense is too defensive. And we want to be defensive, but we want to be offensive, too if we have to be. So, it just sounded to me better”.

Didn't he say he wouldn't start any wars?

Yeah, I know he's a liar.
 

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Trump wants to rename the Department of Defense the Department of War.

"Asked by a reporter how he plans to rename the defense department the ‘Department of War’, since that would require an act of Congress, Trump said: “We’re just going to do it. I’m sure Congress will go along, if we need that, I don’t think we even need that”."

"Defense is too defensive. And we want to be defensive, but we want to be offensive, too if we have to be. So, it just sounded to me better”.

Didn't he say he wouldn't start any wars?

Yeah, I know he's a liar.
He's obsessed with the idea that Ukraine can suspend elections while they are a war invaded. I expect him to start a war with Mexico under the pretense of attacking Cartels so he can stop the elections.
 

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Trump wants to rename the Department of Defense the Department of War.

"Asked by a reporter how he plans to rename the defense department the ‘Department of War’, since that would require an act of Congress, Trump said: “We’re just going to do it. I’m sure Congress will go along, if we need that, I don’t think we even need that”."

"Defense is too defensive. And we want to be defensive, but we want to be offensive, too if we have to be. So, it just sounded to me better”.

Didn't he say he wouldn't start any wars?

Yeah, I know he's a liar.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Department_of_War
Makes sense, he probably wants to continue the US from where they were in 1947, although really probably more 1847
 

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From the previous thread:

Newsom's fighting and that means a lot right now. I see in this thread the purity speak is already happening about him because, like literally everyone, he's not a perfect match on positions with anyone but himself. The circular firing squads have GOT to stop. We are going to lose it all because the OK, or even good, is rejected for not being perfect.

I don't think it's "purity speak" to be opposed to (edit: rather than "opposed to," I should say "not a fan of") Newsom, considering the dude literally invited Charlie Kirk onto the very first episode of his podcast so the two of them could spend an hour shit-talking trans people.

That is a real bad look when a lot of DNC establishment people are blaming attention on trans people for the 2024 drubbing. Trans folks are being scapegoated just like LGBTQ people were after 2004.
 
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From the previous thread:



I don't think it's "purity speak" to be opposed to (edit: rather than "opposed to," I should say "not a fan of") Newsom, considering the dude literally invited Charlie Kirk onto the very first episode of his podcast so the two of them could spend an hour shit-talking trans people.

That is a real bad look when a lot of DNC establishment people are blaming attention on trans people for the 2024 drubbing. Trans folks are being scapegoated just like LGBTQ people were after 2004.

The Democratic Party's also not really capable of claiming "Vote Blue No Matter Who" given how their prominent members threw tantrums over Mamdani's mayoral candidacy or the Minnesota chapter's handling of the Minneapolis race, so expecting unity from people in support of a party that fundamentally can't manage it is...a ridiculous bar.

Newsom does not need us to clap our hands and withhold all criticism to do his job.
 

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The Democratic Party's also not really capable of claiming "Vote Blue No Matter Who" given how their prominent members threw tantrums over Mamdani's mayoral candidacy or the Minnesota chapter's handling of the Minneapolis race, so expecting unity from people in support of a party that fundamentally can't manage it is...a ridiculous bar.

Newsom does not need us to clap our hands and withhold all criticism to do his job.

Do not conflate the acts of some of the democrats who are in power with the party as a whole. They are bought and paid for centrists funded by the very same billionaires who put us here. Those billionaires also fund advertising to try and divide the left by generating a rift between the party as a whole and the left flank. The goal is to siphon us off to wasted third party causes when we should be laser focused on primarying every single one of those centrist fucks with non voters we bring back into the fold.

Every leftist should vote blue no matter who simply because that is an easy and effective use of our political power in the first past the post system we are stuck in. We should not think we are just in refusing to do so simply because dishonest centrists who want us to not vote vocally fuck us over with the power they have.

The real number of democrats who won't vote for Mamdani is a micro fraction of what it feels like due to the purposeful amplification of their voices to sow dissent and spark third party or non voting actions from the progressive wing.
 

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He's obsessed with the idea that Ukraine can suspend elections while they are a war invaded. I expect him to start a war with Mexico under the pretense of attacking Cartels so he can stop the elections.
No, then somebody might think he was going to actually fight the cartels. He has his eyes on Canada.
 

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Newsom does not need us to clap our hands and withhold all criticism to do his job.
I think we should applaud him for using the levers of power he has to try to fight for the party in this moment. And, personally, I do feel less inclined to fling shit at him while he's a standout for trying to do something useful, in the absence of an active, plausible primary challenge to him by someone better.

OTOH, I'd never tell anyone to withhold criticism. That's been a tool of the center to suppress the left for a long time now and it's counter-productive to finding candidates and platforms people actually want to vote for. Trusting that the establishment are the rationale adults in the room making pragmatic, best decisions and telling your base to shut up and expect nothing and that they're making us lose by asking for better is a great way to depress voter turnout. Hopefully at this point the credibility of the rational centrist crowd is well and truly shattered.

Any and all of Newsom sucking, him doing something good, him being one of the better options on the table, and that we should be looking for better options to replace him with can be true. I certainly hope not to be voting for him in the 2028 primary, because that would say depressing things about the field of candidates.
 
He's obsessed with the idea that Ukraine can suspend elections while they are a war invaded. I expect him to start a war with Mexico under the pretense of attacking Cartels so he can stop the elections.
I think the cartel thing is a dirty deal like what they have going on in El Salvador. Trump sent a bunch of Mara Salvatrucha 13 members back to El Salvador, where they get gentle treatment from the government. Sending troops to Mexico could be intervening on behalf of one of the cartels. There is a long history of connections between special forces and drug cartels.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxbW0CCuT7E
 

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I think we should applaud him for using the levers of power he has to try to fight for the party in this moment. And, personally, I do feel less inclined to fling shit at him while he's a standout for trying to do something useful, in the absence of an active, plausible primary challenge to him by someone better.

OTOH, I'd never tell anyone to withhold criticism. That's been a tool of the center to suppress the left for a long time now and it's counter-productive to finding candidates and platforms people actually want to vote for. Trusting that the establishment are the rationale adults in the room making pragmatic, best decisions and telling your base to shut up and expect nothing and that they're making us lose by asking for better is a great way to depress voter turnout. Hopefully at this point the credibility of the rational centrist crowd is well and truly shattered.

Any and all of Newsom sucking, him doing something good, him being one of the better options on the table, and that we should be looking for better options to replace him with can be true. I certainly hope not to be voting for him in the 2028 primary, because that would say depressing things about the field of candidates.
Yeah, the Newsom thing is a bit complex. I’ve been observing the guy for decades, since he was mayor of San Francisco. Based on that body of work, I’m convinced that he’s an utterly amoral, power-driven creature of politics. He’d sell out his own mother if he thought it was politically expedient. He sold out the homeless and trans folks, and he’d sell out you or me if he thought it would get him any benefit whatsoever. He sucks for many reasons, and his past marriage to Guilfoyle, while very funny, is at the bottom of the list.

That being said, I’m glad that he’s decided that it’s to his political benefit to take on Trump as aggressively as he has. We need every bit of pushback we can get, and I’ll gladly accept it from him. But I’m under no illusions that he’s doing it to preserve democracy, or in the interests of the people, or anything like that. If he subsequently calculates that appeasing or aligning with Trump is in his political interest, I expect him to flip instantly.

Meanwhile, he’s not the only Democratic governor to take forceful action against Trump and his minions. J.B. Pritzker has been fighting the good fight for quite a while now, and AFAIK doesn’t have nearly the baggage of Newsom. Wes Moore has pushed back hard against Trump’s threats to deploy the National Guard in Maryland. Many others (e.g. Tim Walz) are speaking forcefully against Trump, and still others are initiating or joining litigation against the regime. So it’s not like Newsom is the only one fighting or our only hope.

Assuming there’s anything like a normal election in 2028, I’d very much hope that Newsom isn’t the Democratic nominee. But if he is, I’d still support and vote for the guy, because he’s not Trump.
 

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I think the cartel thing is a dirty deal like what they have going on in El Salvador. Trump sent a bunch of Mara Salvatrucha 13 members back to El Salvador, where they get gentle treatment from the government. Sending troops to Mexico could be intervening on behalf of one of the cartels. There is a long history of connections between special forces and drug cartels.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxbW0CCuT7E


Politico has an excerpt of that book. It’s one I fully intend on reading.
https://www.politico.com/news/magaz...g-delta-force-women-military-hegseth-00495824
 

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At least judges still respect the 4th amendment. Judge pushes back on arrest

"It is without a doubt the most illegal search I've ever seen in my life," U.S. Magistrate Judge Zia Faruqui said from the bench. "I'm absolutely flabbergasted at what has happened. A high school student would know this was an illegal search."

The judge said Torez Riley appeared to have been singled out because he is a Black man who carried a backpack that looked heavy. Law enforcement officers said in court papers they found two weapons in Riley's crossbody bag — after he had previously been convicted on a weapons charge.

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The judge said he had seven cases on his docket Monday that involved people who had been arrested over the weekend — the most ever, he said.

Faruqui also said "on multiple occasions" over the past two weeks, other judges in the federal courthouse had moved to suppress search warrants, a highly unusual move that makes the warrants inadmissible in court.

I'm sure the SC will correct this is no time and weaken the 4th even more.
 

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Trump wants to rename the Department of Defense the Department of War.

"Asked by a reporter how he plans to rename the defense department the ‘Department of War’, since that would require an act of Congress, Trump said: “We’re just going to do it. I’m sure Congress will go along, if we need that, I don’t think we even need that”."

"Defense is too defensive. And we want to be defensive, but we want to be offensive, too if we have to be. So, it just sounded to me better”.

Didn't he say he wouldn't start any wars?

Yeah, I know he's a liar.
At the very least it is, if anything, slightly less Orwellian than continuing to run global forever wars under the label “defense.”
 

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New Yorker discusses the implications of weapons and tactics such as drones in future wars.

https://www.newyorker.com/podcast/t...r-filkins-on-drones-and-the-future-of-warfare

But the reporter off handedly mentions that Israel used AI to generate hundreds or even thousands of targets to hit. That may be why IDF tries to claim that they don’t deliberately target civilians. AI chooses targets but supposedly humans decided which ones to hit.

The explosive allegation is that they fed it so much data that they ran out of compute resources and went to get cloud compute from Microsoft. I don’t recall if he named other cloud vendors.

But considering how controversial the Gaza war has become, how is Microsoft avoiding the line of fire if indeed its cloud infrastructure processed these at least some of the IDF target lists?
 
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At the very least it is, if anything, slightly less Orwellian than continuing to run global forever wars under the label “defense.”
Well yes, but he appears to be saying it because he wants the Department to be LESS focused on national defense. It's of a piece with all this Republican bragging about lethality. They fantasize about killing people.
 

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Well yes, but he appears to be saying it because he wants the Department to be LESS focused on national defense. It's of a piece with all this Republican bragging about lethality. They fantasize about killing people.

Exactly. "Department of War" fits Trump's persona of being a bully. Bullies like to project force and strength. Trump does this because, by all accounts, he is deeply terrified of actual boots-on-the-ground war. So he's basically taking "Don't Mess with Texas" and projecting it on a national level because he needs to be seen as the strongest lion in the pit. That people take this fervor and then get juiced up to the gills at the idea of killing Brown people or eradicating trans people or whatever is a feature, not a bug.

It can all be traced back to how completely insecure he is.
 

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But the reporter off handedly mentions that Israel used AI to generate hundreds or even thousands of targets to hit. That may be why IDF tries to claim that they don’t deliberately target civilians. AI chooses targets but supposedly humans decided which ones to hit.
This has undboubtedly happened but it's not the root cause.
Israel doesn't want to admit that their campaign is killing massively outsized numbers of civilians directly, and they don't want or feel the need to exercise control over indiscriminate fire from boots on the ground. So post facto anybody who gets shot was a terrorist. It's that simple. 13 year old chlildren walking with their mothers, 80 year old men waiting to get food, if they were killed it's because they're Hamas and those poor IDF soldiers feared for their very lives.
So yes, a lot of AI has caused people to be labeled targets for the IDF in lieu of real evidence. But that's a very small part of the number of civilians killed by the IDF.
But considering how controversial the Gaza war has become, how is Microsoft avoiding the line of fire if indeed its cloud infrastructure processed these at least some of the IDF target lists?
What fire? The war has the full support of the US government and there's a massive contingent in and out of the private sector ready to pounce on any criticism as "antisemitism."
 
New Yorker discusses the implications of weapons and tactics such as drones in future wars.

https://www.newyorker.com/podcast/t...r-filkins-on-drones-and-the-future-of-warfare

But the reporter off handedly mentions that Israel used AI to generate hundreds or even thousands of targets to hit. That may be why IDF tries to claim that they don’t deliberately target civilians. AI chooses targets but supposedly humans decided which ones to hit.

The explosive allegation is that they fed it so much data that they ran out of compute resources and went to get cloud compute from Microsoft. I don’t recall if he named other cloud vendors.

But considering how controversial the Gaza war has become, how is Microsoft avoiding the line of fire if indeed its cloud infrastructure processed these at least some of the IDF target lists?
Apparently MS isn't avoiding blowback from this...

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/08/21/tech/microsoft-employee-protests-israel-intl

Microsoft employee protests over Israel military ties lead to 18 arrests​

 

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He's 79 and he was sundowning, visibly and frequently, in his first term. It's honestly more impressive that he can actually still speak off the cuff.
It can't be just age. Granted, people age at different rates, not even counting diet/health etc. But look at Bernie fercristsakes. Or, my dad, who at 90, dying of cancer, could cogently discuss current politics vs New Deal politics that helped end the Depression (btw he was a fan of Bernie's, and likened him to FDR in messaging at least).

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Case in point, an 83 year old Bernie rally yesteday:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAOhGqz4e78
 

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https://www.desmoinesregister.com/s...ts-republican-christopher-prosch/85819325007/

Iowa Democrate Catelin Drey has won a special election in Iowa, breaking the Republicans supermajority (they still have a strong majority) in the State Senate.

It won't have much consequence, probably, but it's a measure of the temperature of the electorate. Her Republican predecessor won with 55% and Drey won with 55%.

It's the second time this year a Democrat has won a special election to replace a Republican in the Iowa Senate. So maybe time to recalibrate the political barometers.
 

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https://www.desmoinesregister.com/s...ts-republican-christopher-prosch/85819325007/

Iowa Democrate Catelin Drey has won a special election in Iowa, breaking the Republicans supermajority (they still have a strong majority) in the State Senate.

It won't have much consequence, probably, but it's a measure of the temperature of the electorate. Her Republican predecessor won with 55% and Drey won with 55%.

It's the second time this year a Democrat has won a special election to replace a Republican in the Iowa Senate. So maybe time to recalibrate the political barometers.
Holy shit. The district including Sioux City went Democrat? I was traveling in the area during Trump's first term. I'm a tall cis white dude and quite athletic at the time and the number of Trump banners and Confederate "rebel" flags all over everywhere made me feel unsafe.
 

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Stanford researchers found some evidence that AI is reducing employment among young workers.

Erik Brynjolfsson, a professor at Stanford University, Ruyu Chen, a research scientist, and Bharat Chandar, a postgraduate student, examined data from ADP, the largest payroll provider in the US, from late 2022, when ChatGPT debuted, to mid-2025.

The researchers discovered several strong signals in the data—most notably that the adoption of generative AI coincided with a decrease in job opportunities for younger workers in sectors previously identified as particularly vulnerable to AI-powered automation (think customer service and software development). In these industries, they found a 16 percent decline in employment for workers aged 22 to 25.

The new study reveals a nuanced picture of AI’s impact on labor. While advances in artificial intelligence have often been accompanied by dire predictions about jobs being eliminated—there hasn’t been much data to back it up. Relative unemployment for young graduates, for instance, began dropping around 2009, well before the current AI wave. And areas that might seem vulnerable to AI, such as translation, have actually seen an increase in jobs in recent years.

Read in WIRED: https://apple.news/AQUn12kLfSUawYdoU2ML32A



Meanwhile there are advocates of "augmentation vs. automation" approach to AI, which is the strategy of helping workers be more productive with AI rather than replace their jobs entirely.

Brynjolfsson and another Stanford scientist, Andrew Haupt, argued in a paper in June that AI companies should develop new “centaur” AI benchmarks that measure human-AI collaboration, to incentivize more focus on augmentation rather than automation. “I think there's still a lot of tasks where humans and machines can outperform [AI on its own],” Brynjolfsson says.

Some experts believe that more collaboration between humans and AI could be a feature of the future labor market. Matt Beane, an associate professor at UC Santa Barbara who studies AI-driven automation, says he expects the AI boom to create demand for augmentable work—as managing the output of AI becomes increasingly important. “We'll automate as much as we can,” Beane says. “But that doesn't mean there won't be a growing mountain of augmentable work left for humans.”

AI is advancing quickly though, and Brynjolfsson warns that the impact on younger workers could spread to those with more experience. “What we need to do is create a dashboard early-warning system to help us track this in real time,” he says. “This is a very consequential technology.”

I'm going to guess that most CEOs will take the automation rather than the augmentation approach, looking for short-term bottom line gains, which is why there are predictions of huge job losses, which may cause all kinds of social, political and economic disruption.
 

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I could perhaps see very low-end software developers (think those employed by agencies to shit out Wordpress sites, generic mobile games, and the like) being replaced by an AI that can churn out crap at an industrial scale, or customer service reps that were restricted to reading from a script and were basically already robots anyway, but I can't imagine AI replacing even legitimate junior talent.

If there's any career at serious risk of disruption due to generative AI, it's SEO -- not just because generative AI is great at producing content marketing fluff for cheap, but because the shift away from traditional web search to AI summaries has completely up-ended the entire SEO market without a clear way forward.

I admittedly have not dove into the paper, so perhaps it's discussed, but I would predict employment amount young workers being impacted by a combination of the following:

  • More than any other factor, a combination of rising interest rates that make it more difficult for companies to attract investments, AI essentially sucking all the oxygen out of the room and starving out other niches for investments opportunities that are still available, and large companies that traditionally absorbed and trained these junior workers implementing hiring freezes and/or conducting layoffs over the past 2-3 years,
  • Junior workers having to compete with more senior workers for the jobs that are available
  • The Trump administration's economic policies stalling investments due to the ongoing chaos and uncertainty
  • Younger workers being more likely to look for jobs via job boards, hiring pages, and other "front door" avenues, whereas more experienced workers can lean more on their network
  • The pervasive use of AI by candidates during the hiring process, which often ends up filtering out these candidates and encourages hiring managers to give more weight to network referrals (I wrote a Reddit post a little while back going into more detail from the perspective of the hiring side)

I'm sure that generative AI is being used heavily throughout the professional world, but I suspect it's more due to companies tightening their belts and telling their remaining staff to do more with less (and the use of generative AI is a tool to cope with the workload), than any intentional displacement of junior workers with AI.
 

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Social security numbers copied to the cloud. Amazon now has 300 million SS numbers. OK maybe not just amazon, but most likely Russia too.

A whistleblower says that a former senior DOGE official now at the Social Security Administration copied the Social Security numbers, names and birthdays of over 300 million Americans to a private section of the agency's cloud. That private cloud environment is accessible by other former DOGE employees at the SSA and is lacking adequate security, the whistleblower claims, potentially putting an enormous amount of private information at risk to being revealed and possibly used by identity thieves.
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The copy of the data appears to have been set up inside the SSA's existing cloud infrastructure, which operates on Amazon Web Services. However, according to the complaint, the copied data had far fewer security measures in place to protect it than the SSA's standard protocols typically require.
 

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Politico has an excerpt of that book. It’s one I fully intend on reading.
https://www.politico.com/news/magaz...g-delta-force-women-military-hegseth-00495824

Calling Russian attack on Ukraine, civil war in Syria against gruesome dictatorship and wars in Somalia, Yemen as "American-sponsored shadow wars and proxy conflicts" surely adds to this journalist's credibility (sarcasm).
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but with American-sponsored shadow wars and proxy conflicts raging in places like Syria, Somalia, Yemen, Ukraine and Gaza
 

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I always heard you could Indict a ham sandwich , but Trumps doj couldn't

Federal prosecutors failed three times to persuade a grand jury to indict a woman accused of assaulting an FBI agent during an immigration operation in Washington, D.C., last month, a highly unusual failure as President Donald Trump’s administration seeks to aggressively charge street crime in the nation's capital.
Three different federal grand juries declined to indict Sydney Reid for assaulting, resisting, or impeding officers, prosecutors disclosed in a court filing late on Monday. Prosecutors then downgraded the offense to a misdemeanor.
 

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Calling Russian attack on Ukraine, civil war in Syria against gruesome dictatorship and wars in Somalia, Yemen as "American-sponsored shadow wars and proxy conflicts" surely adds to this journalist's credibility (sarcasm).
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You're taking issue with verbiage, I'm assuming? While I wouldn't call them proxy or shadow wars - these conflicts are very real and in the open, and I would use different terms to describe the US relationship with all of them - there is a reason the author called out those locations.



US forces are in Somalia and Syria. News articles confirm this over the past ten days - some quick searching should find them for you. We've been actively involved militarily in both countries for years - again, some pretty basic searches should net you plenty of results.

Here is an article from Task & Purpose from a few days ago detailing recent US activity in Somalia:
https://taskandpurpose.com/news/us-airstrikes-somalia-bariire/

Here's an article from Reuters from six days ago (via MSN, in case the Reuters pay wall comes up for you) for a raid into Syria:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/...ia-against-is-target-sources-say/ar-AA1KT25X?



US made weaponry is being used in Ukraine.
(And we should be giving the Ukrainians a lot more! But that is just my opinion.)

I don't think I need to bring receipts for this one, do you? Covered in the big thread pretty well.



Saudia Arabia has been engaged with the Houthi forces in Yemen for years, using a LOT of US made weaponry.

Here's an article from the Military Times in 2023:
https://www.militarytimes.com/news/...ed-by-yemenis-over-weapons-used-in-civil-war/

Here's an article from ABC 7 in Chicago, pulling from CNN, in 2023, about US forces shooting down drones launched from Houthi controlled territory:
https://abc11.com/post/attack-drones-yemen-us-navy-warship/14095503/



I'm not going to get into Israel/Gaza - that particular topic needs to retain containment, but US made arms and Israel has been kind of a thing in the news for a bit now. Again, I don't think I need to bring receipts for this one.
 

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You're taking issue with verbiage, I'm assuming? While I wouldn't call them proxy or shadow wars - these conflicts are very real and in the open, and I would use different terms to describe the US relationship with all of them - there is a reason the author called out those locations.

I have issue with implied claim that those nasty Americans somehow created or are somehow responsible for all those (allegedly 'proxy') wars. Claim that is overused anti-American propaganda item and is key ingredient of Russian propaganda.
This single sentence tells me all I need to know about this 'journalist' and how much can I trust this article.
 
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