“Havard”-trained spa owner injected clients with bogus Botox, prosecutors say

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What even is an "estate board"? All I can find with that term are real estate boards. Restricting "real estate" from showing up just shows me probate law stuff. So, seriously, WTF is that supposed to be?
Her dad wrote her name down on a board, then he died. So it’s an estate board now.
 
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I'm seeing a neurologist and receive botox for a neurological disorder. Long story, but botox is actually used in medical treatments while most people associate it with beauty. He told me that a fair number of his patients come from 'beauty clinics' where amateurs expertly stick the needle straight through facial nerves. This results in facial paralysis or involuntary movements (spasms) of the muscles in the face. Given the risks, I'm not sure why so many folks are eager to get their faces and other body parts botox-ed up by amateurs in unsupervised clinics.
 
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She made $900k and the two fines are $500k? So she's still $400k ahead. :) That'll buy a lot of merch in the commissary.

The criminal mind, I'll never understand. As for consumers - how to verify these claims. I had to look twice at the misspelling of Harvard, and I'd like to think I would have questioned "The Estate Board." I actually read the diplomas on the walls of the doctors office.

Still, Baby Doc College of Physicians sounds real. (see also, Zonker Harris)
1. Revenue is not the same as profit. So she's not "still ahead $400K".
2. I would imagine the government would try to seek disgorgement of profits in addition to the punitive fine.
 
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BrianB_NY

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What even is an "estate board"? All I can find with that term are real estate boards. Restricting "real estate" from showing up just shows me probate law stuff. So, seriously, WTF is that supposed to be?
It's most likely a deliberate attempt to mislead clients who don't read carefully into thinking she's licensed by the "State Board", while also attempting to be able to say "I never said I was licensed by the State Board" when they come after her.

Kind of like walking around in a law enforcement uniform wearing a badge that says "Policy Officer" while pulling people over, and then claiming that you weren't impersonating a police officer.
 
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My take on stories like this is not that the perpetrator was a moron and got caught, but that for every moron like her who got caught, there are dozens of morons who never get caught.
My take is two-fold: the mis-spelling of her alleged credentials was perhaps the only not dumb thing she did, and second, to the extent she was a moron in ignoring the signs her jig was up, but what does this episode say about her clients? I mean, do you know what an aesthetician does?

Though, speaking of medical scams and doubling down on them, I've been watching Bad Monkey on Apple, and can recommend it if you like dark humor and Vince Vaughn in Vince Vaughn mode.
 
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She made $900k and the two fines are $500k? So she's still $400k ahead. :) That'll buy a lot of merch in the commissary.

The criminal mind, I'll never understand. As for consumers - how to verify these claims. I had to look twice at the misspelling of Harvard, and I'd like to think I would have questioned "The Estate Board." I actually read the diplomas on the walls of the doctors office.

Still, Baby Doc College of Physicians sounds real. (see also, Zonker Harris)
I understand that to be $900k gross, not $900k net. Presumably she had costs of operating her businesses, buying the counterfeit goods, and paying her staff. A $500k fine is probably eating up all of her profit and then some.
 
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I don’t understand. I thought that, in America, you aren’t guilty of anything unless you admit it — and even then you get to take it back.

This is an attack on small business and deserves a trump pardon. Doesn’t apply to state law you say? If SOCTUS places limits on presidential authority… well, we’ll see.
 
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My take is two-fold: the mis-spelling of her alleged credentials was perhaps the only not dumb thing she did, and second, to the extent she was a moron in ignoring the signs her jig was up, but what does this episode say about her clients? I mean, do you know what an aesthetician does?
The thing is, Botox and fillers administered by qualified technicians can cost thousand(s) per treatment, and treatments aren't permanent - clients have to keep going back. People who can't afford that end up at these sleazy spas, and there are a lot of them. They pop up, get busted, and other ones take their place.

I recently discovered a YouTube subgenre of young (20s-30s) women doing exposes on cosmetic procedures and surgery. Supposedly between the Kardashians and "influencers", a lot of young people are feeling pressure to look a certain way that generally involves physical alteration of one's appearance, so frauds like this woman always have customers.
 
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Do we think the emphasis in Havard is on the first or second syllable? Also, of course I got to thinking about other potential knockoff names for prestigious schools and it hit me, why has Norway not created Stanfjord?
When I was a graduate student at UC Berkeley (many years ago), I remember seeing an advertisement for a public lecture somehow related to fraudulent credentials (I can't remember the exact topic anymore, and I didn't attend). As I recall, attendees would receive a "diploma" from The University of Berkeley.
 
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So, what was she actually injecting?

Was she still injecting people with botulism toxin, just not name brand Botox, or was it something completely fake?
I suspect it had to be fake (ie not botulinum toxin) - not say the crap she got from BR was harmless but the fact she is not facing homicide charges suggests it wasn't BT or it was in homeopathic dilutions.

Could have been worse she could have tried culturing her own C.botulinum or just buying swollen cans of preserved peas (that would be favourite) and extracting the toxin (mash the peas up in tap water and filter through a tea towel.)

Its a supplement so none of the FDA's beeswax.

"Aesthetician" what? A dyslexic anaesthetist? You couldn't make this shit up.
 
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My take on stories like this is not that the perpetrator was a moron and got caught, but that for every moron like her who got caught, there are dozens of morons who never get caught.
Or, as mentioned in the comment above yours, that they get caught and nothing was done about it.

IMO, lack of enforcement on white collar crime is the biggest single issue in the US.
 
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Counterfeit is a branding violation. It doesn't mean the injections were fake, they could have easily been identical to the branded versions and probably were. Botox and fillers requires repeat applications. Doubtful that if they were not working that clients would return. Seems a simple fact statement to leave out of a news article about a product being real or or not.
She was doing this for years. Nobody, including the shady manufacturer, has any idea what was in the stuff she used more than a month ago.
 
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I don’t understand. I thought that, in America, you aren’t guilty of anything unless you admit it — and even then you get to take it back.

This is an attack on small business and deserves a trump pardon. Doesn’t apply to state law you say? If SOCTUS places limits on presidential authority… well, we’ll see.
SOCTUS only takes cases on estate law.
 
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She may have meant Harvard, MA. Then, technically, she'd be trained at Harvard. Though it's not called Harvard High School. It's the Bromfield School.

Or maybe she meant the Harvard School of Sociopathy. It's right next to the Harvard School of Homeopathy.
Isn’t that the official name for Harvard Business School?

Edit: Dammit! Ninja’ed by the OP
 
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I’m surprised you can get caught importing illegal/counterfeit drugs into the country and nothing seems to happen quickly even when doing it multiple times.

Sadly, I'm not.

How many times was the Boar's Head plant that got shut down cited for violations with no punishments of any kind before the listeria breakout? How long were they allowed to continue to operate?

We're not bad at finding out somebody did something. We suck at holding them accountable.
 
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My take on stories like this is not that the perpetrator was a moron and got caught, but that for every moron like her who got caught, there are dozens of morons who never get caught.
I don't know - 'fake' Botox and fillers may have had some effect, and probably the small quantities that would be used in facial cosmetics wouldn't have much risk of being lethal [*] The 'fake Lidocaine' in particular makes me think that it must have worked to some degree. A numbing agent that had no effect would have pretty obvious consequences, unless she chained down her patients or had an exceptionally hypnotic bedside patter!

[*] You hear of people dying in shady clinics in Brazil and elsewhere, but they are having serious surgery involving liposuction or large quantities of filler. Not just facial injections. If she applied basic surgical hygiene, she probably wasn't too dangerous.
 
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