Good luck Florida
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List of Florida shelters that are open. Most take pets.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BhFi3x3z5pYCw_RQkPgA8SsYKACuuvbvcEs2ynOLXXo/edit
from this florida aid website: https://www.floridadisaster.org/Updates
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BhFi3x3z5pYCw_RQkPgA8SsYKACuuvbvcEs2ynOLXXo/edit
from this florida aid website: https://www.floridadisaster.org/Updates
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"Nearing the mathematical limit" is not a phrase I want to have appended to describing an oncoming natural disaster.
Crossing the event horizon, and The Geiger counter is pegged are also up there.
We’re having an internal briefing on Milton at 11 AM EDT. I have never seen our event response team this agitated.
I’ll drop what I can that isn’t proprietary.
I’ll drop what I can that isn’t proprietary.
Even with the slight shift south towards Sarasota instead of Pinellas/Hillsborough, it's going to be very expensive. Dodging Tampa directly (or slightly north of Tampa) will save insurers and people some money, but Manatee/Sarasota counties are still pretty dense, though much of it is newer and better built.
It's not 130 miles from Tampa, it's Sarasota. It's nearly directly in the current path of Milton, being just on the south/east side of the track line, which is not the side you want to be on.
My 76 year old parents are in a high rise in Naples.
At least this time I convinced my mother to fill the bath tub in case the power goes out.
And the building is “better prepared” this time from 2 years ago. Whatever that means.
I do know all the cars got moved from the parking garage in the basement, inland to a mall parking garage.
At least this time I convinced my mother to fill the bath tub in case the power goes out.
And the building is “better prepared” this time from 2 years ago. Whatever that means.
I do know all the cars got moved from the parking garage in the basement, inland to a mall parking garage.
Ironically it's a really beautiful day here in Tampa. Partly sunny, light breeze, High of 85, low of 75. We're gonna have some lovely weather for about 18 more hours.
Oof, yeah.
My friend's parents were already staying inland after having their house gutted, so at least they didn't need to worry about evacuating.
That makes me wonder what the mathematical limits actually are. I mean, it's more than 10% of the way to a vacuum from normal pressure, and an area the size of a small country is experiencing conditions similar to being blown out an airlock.
Maybe at some point, we could get an article on exactly how bad hurricanes can get, and the upper limit of heat dissipation they can provide?
Absolutely this.
And how would those limits change with each 1C warmer water temp?
Why, my brothers in Christ, are the opposing lanes not open too? Jesus, Florida is so bad at all of this.
Upper limits are variable depending on atmospheric conditions and temperature.
https://www.livescience.com/32179-how-strong-can-a-hurricane-get.html
That tweet was made a few hours after Pinellas county (connected to Tampa via that bridge) issued an evacuation notice for three zones. Traffic was backed up all day yesterday, but it's smooth now. No need yet to open opposing lanes.
Also, the incoming lanes are bringing people and supplies. They need to stage electrical trucks, fire trucks, ambulances, portable bathrooms and showers, large generators, etc. in side the hurricane's path, and they're keeping incoming lanes open for that.
And there's a few thousand crusty dumbfucks goin "AH AIN SKEEEEERT"
A quick look at GasBuddy seems to indicate a large number of fuel stations without gas in the Tampa/Central FL area. I had seen that refills had been paused as of yesterday for at least some stations (big caveat there that it was on social media so I can't verify the accuracy). Is that normal pre-hurricane? Not something I've seen/read about before, but possible it's just something that normally happens and I've never noticed it before having never lived in FL.
My wife's aunt and cousin turned around because the line for gas was too long. They're in Weeki Wachee, though, so maybe that's less stupid? I don't know Florida. The other two siblings are still trying to convince their mom to go, but it's the dumbest of the three boys that's living with his mom in Florida, of course.
My sister-in-law in Asheville finally got power back. No word on water, though.
We left last night at 5pm, to a hotel in Orlando. That's normally just over an hour with decent traffic, it took us three. It was bumper to bumper the entire way.
They did open up the left shoulder to traffic.
Standard procedure for Floridians in a hurricane warning are to buy up all the bottled water and suck all the gas stations dry. I witnessed this firsthand in 2019. Can't exactly blame them, though it feels a little bit like hoarding.
That I understand, especially with people filling it to evacuate. It's the closed stations/no refills that surprised me, though I suppose that shouldn't surprise me either.
Not to Ashville, NC it isn't. I'm about two hours south but our entire next week is going to be dry.That's coming
No worries. That tweet would make me snarky too if I wasn't living in the area.
Overall, Tampa Bay is doing a really good job with this hurricane. They called for evacuations several days ahead of the storm. They're gathering up as much debris as they can. The mayors are working well with the state. It's about as good as you could expect.
As much as I despise Ron DeSantis, he's also doing a good job to prepare for this hurricane. He's in touch with the mayors and sending resources that we need. There was a dust-up about his communication with Washington, but the state and federal offices are talking and coordinating, regardless of whether governor and president are talking directly.
We're in...well, not in good shape, but the best shape you could hope for.
No real news about landfall from our briefing. The track is trending a bit south, but uncertainty is still high.
Milton is still doing regular eyewall replacements for now, so it is still highly cohesive, and will conserve much of its energy before slowing down and expanding. That's not good news.
Milton is still doing regular eyewall replacements for now, so it is still highly cohesive, and will conserve much of its energy before slowing down and expanding. That's not good news.
To be fair, in this particular instance it is important to remember that a lot of fuel for the area comes in through the Port of Tampa Bay which will have its own preparation needs in advance of the storm.
To be clear - I have no judgment for folks whose circumstances make evacuation difficult or impossible, just for folks who think not evacuating is some kind of macho statement or proof of toughness.
I read an article, I think it was on the WaPo, where one lady whose house flooded due to Helene was doubtful about evacuating and the local fire chief stating that she should because his men and women would otherwise be risking and possibly losing their lives for her. My initial thought was "The first responders should not (have to) risk their lives for people who willfully ignore evacuation orders/advice"...but I know they will.
This guy, known as "Lieutenant Dan" because he missing a leg and lives on a boat, is gonna ride it out on his very small sailboat in Tampa Bay. Partly i think he has no where to go but when he was offered a hotel room until the storm passed, he insisted that he was gonna ride it out. I hope he makes it but i struggle to understand why?!?!?!?
View: https://www.tiktok.com/@terrenceconcannon/video/7423052549416078623
View: https://www.tiktok.com/@terrenceconcannon/video/7423052549416078623
I've only lived in Orlando for about six years, but this is the first time I've seen gas stations here run out. Many are out; others have huge lines. We drove back from Miami yesterday evening. Gassed up as we were leaving Miami, knowing that would get us home, and also that probably gas would not be had back at home. We're bunkered down here now, only thing left for me to do is set up the garage door brace and maybe fill up some more containers of water.
Feels like suicide with extra steps. This happens, I remember that one old guy who refused to evacuate from Mt. St. Helens 44 years ago. Although Milton is way more immediate and certain than that eruption. I wouldn't care necessarily except for the first responders who are going to have to search for this guy's body.
Good news seems to be that it will “only” be a Cat 3 and not 4 or 5 at landfall.