Twitter suspended journalist for reporting on Matt Walsh’s hacked materials

Post content hidden for low score. Show…

Chuckstar

Ars Legatus Legionis
37,253
Subscriptor
Upvote
32 (32 / 0)

Knotly Wade

Smack-Fu Master, in training
3
They can believe what they want. It doesn't make it legal.

"Your niece or nephew who's good with computers is a much safer (and cheaper) bet."

HAHAHAHA. Right... besides the fact that I am not that old, I am the computer literate one in my family. But... why did you feel the need to make a crack about old people not being good with computers? Seems like a unneeded insult and assumption.
Not only that, the "your kid should be able to help you with your computer" stopped being a thing like a decade ago.
 
Upvote
24 (25 / -1)
As I have said in other Twitter-related threads, I have some gift subs and I'm willing to give one to anyone who has left Twitter since the Musk drama began. I have some Pro and Pro++ subs still remaining. It's mostly first come first serve for the ++ ones. Just PM me (don't post in thread, I might not read it) something showing you left, and you'll get a year's subscription, until I run out. I'm obviously going to do some basic due diligence (gee, that seems relevant) and try to not give them to throw-away accounts, but this isn't going to be a rigorous evaluation. If you leave now to get the free sub, so much the better. If there's enough interest in this, I may buy another batch, but no promises on that front.

So, yeah. Money where my mouth is and all that. Ditch Twitter, show me proof, and get an Ars sub. Simple as that.
 
Upvote
25 (26 / -1)

VividVerism

Ars Tribunus Angusticlavius
8,482
Subscriptor
This sort of thing is gross, skeevy, and iniquitous. Reporting on hacked materials is protected and should be protected for a reason, and engaging in a cover-up is behaviour clearly opposed to the public interest. That was the case when it was former Twitter management censoring the New York Post for covering the Hunter Biden story, with the coverup at the behest of the Biden campaign, no less; I still remember a bunch of idiots on Twitter trying to claim that that story was fake news, same with the DNC hack. And it's the case for the current Twitter management censoring Wired for covering the Matt Walsh story, as well. And we all know who made this decision inside modern Twitter, and why: it was Musk, and he did it because self-described theocratic fascist Matt Walsh shares his disgusting transphobic views.

https://www.techdirt.com/2022/12/07...wrong-about-twitter-and-hunter-bidens-laptop/
 
Upvote
18 (20 / -2)

Chuckstar

Ars Legatus Legionis
37,253
Subscriptor
Gifting Twitter Blue to high profile people who were very against paying for it might be the first smart marketing decision Mush has made.

Now it looks like they broke down and paid. Doesn't matter if they post saying they didn't. His supporters can just point at the still existing checkmark and say, "See, they paid!"
I hear Twitter is filming a TV commercial with Eddie Murphy. Here’s the BTS of the film crew at work: ;)


View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=E6yFlIQxp8g
 
Upvote
-17 (0 / -17)

charliebird

Ars Tribunus Militum
2,358
Subscriptor++
Gifting Twitter Blue to high profile people who were very against paying for it might be the first smart marketing decision Mush has made.

Now it looks like they broke down and paid. Doesn't matter if they post saying they didn't. His supporters can just point at the still existing checkmark and say, "See, they paid!"
Why should any high profile person pay knowing that Musk will foot the bill? How far down the line does this go? Seems like a crack in the payment dam that will only grow.
 
Upvote
21 (22 / -1)
This is easy. There’s a lot of wealthy people (and politicians, etc) who hate the media for looking into their business and hate that legal precedent curtails them from using their wealth to threaten said journalists and their investigations.

Legally Walsh doesn’t have a legal leg to stand on and Musk knows it. So he bans the reporter instead, sending a message to other journalists. I just surprised he didn’t suspend Wired as well.



https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/mar/07/ron-desantis-freedom-of-the-press-florida
I'm sort of surprised Wired (and related publications) didn't proactively suspend activity on Twitter in response.

We're rapidly approaching the point where there little benefit to major corporate media for helping prop up this increasingly bizarre little fiefdom ... and a growing real moral hazard to actively participating as journalists on a platform openly suppressing/manipulating a free press.
 
Upvote
27 (29 / -2)

Andrei

Ars Scholae Palatinae
1,148
From the article: "I literally only wanted his Twitter account to make stupid tweets,” Doomed told Wired. “And it worked, both sides are arguing over it."

This is too neutral or tame of a statement for an actual hacker bent on chaos. This is someone trying to chicken out of a hack and using Wired as a means to defuse a potentially nasty legal situation.
 
Upvote
9 (15 / -6)
Post content hidden for low score. Show…

sarusa

Ars Praefectus
3,258
Subscriptor++
What exactly is your point?
The point is that Musk is a lying liar who lies all the f@#$ing time (he's not even consistent within a single day), especially about the things he claims to value most (Free Speech), since he will happily violate those in an instant if it ends up being something he disagrees with.

Just to make it super clear for you:
- He repeatedly goes on an on about how Free Speech is what he values, maybe most, and that he's Free Speech's greatest champion. He supposedly bought Twitter to restore Free Speech to it (more lies, but it's what he's going with).
- The very next day (or same day even) after he goes on about how Twitter is all about free speech he will censor more people who disagree with him. While he unbans white supremacists, so I guess it all works out?
 
Upvote
27 (27 / 0)

jballou

Ars Scholae Palatinae
889
Weird that when it comes to Hunter Bidens laptop, the policy seems to be “publish links to everything and make stuff up”.

Should probably take the hint about Twitter being an enemy of free press, but Matt Walsh sure is making a lot of loud and easily disproven disparaging statements, it’s going to be fun to watch him lose again.
 
Upvote
15 (16 / -1)
Post content hidden for low score. Show…
Post content hidden for low score. Show…
Don't you know? Musk controls ALL your speech, not just what you say on Twitter. Especially if you make jokes about him or his friends on the racist end of the political spectrum. They are protected by "free speech absolutism." But what makes you think you are?

I seriously believe that Musk has decided that if he cannot make money off of Twitter, he can at least turn it into the Elon Musk Admiration Society.
What makes you think he decided this áfter finding out it isn't profitable?
He said it from the beginning!
He wanted his soapbox on the central square and spent 44bln to get it.
 
Upvote
10 (10 / 0)
Seems many here are thinking that it's Matt Walsh that got suspended with all the "good riddance" comments. HE'S still there, it was a journalist that reported on it that got suspended. Not the publication that printed it either, just the reporter. Why not the publication also?

It's just a bullshit thing that Musk did...because he can. Just like giving some people blue checkmarks because he feels like it, while taking away everyone else's.
 
Upvote
8 (10 / -2)

GreyAreaUK

Ars Legatus Legionis
11,304
Subscriptor
Last edited:
Upvote
26 (26 / 0)

abazigal

Ars Scholae Palatinae
1,341
Subscriptor
Their profile says

1.1M Followers

How do they walk away from that many of their customers?
The number of views on their tweets are all over the place, but seem to average about 10,000 views each. I don't know how Twitter decides whether your tweet has been viewed or not (since it doesn't have to be as engaged as actually watching a 10-min video all the way through), but this implies a 1% engagement rate.

Not to mention that engagement with said tweets also seem fairly non-existent (very few likes, even fewer retweets and virtually no replies).

I won't be surprised if their follower count consists of former twitter users who long since left the platform and / or migrated to Mastodon, and not representative of the popularity they still enjoy on said platform. For context, Mastodon now has over 11 million subscribers, my impression is that they tend to be amongst the more tech-savvy users, exactly the sort of person who would read Ars.
 
Upvote
7 (10 / -3)

IncorrigibleTroll

Ars Tribunus Angusticlavius
9,228
Musk's Twitter doing exactly the same thing they accused the previous Twitter owners of doing?
Man, it's almost as if his "unfettered free speech, public square, anything not illegal is allowed, no more censorship" jibba-jabba was just a lie that only stupid people (possibly including himself) believed.

It turns out, Musk really just loves banning journalists and picking fights with "liberal" news organizations at the behest of right-wing trolls who play him like a fiddle.

Right-wing shitheels are absolutely amazing at manipulating narcissists. I stand in awe at the skill with which they deftly put strings on people like Musk.

One of the world’s richest men is a mere marionette for a bunch of basement-dwelling troglodytes. It’s kind of remarkable and pathetic.
 
Upvote
19 (20 / -1)
Post content hidden for low score. Show…

Litazia

Ars Tribunus Militum
2,230
Subscriptor
What... Freaking hell. Musk just continues to demonstrate how sad and pathetic he is, trying to placate celebrities who have criticized his decisions. The irony is, he just made those particular checkmarks status symbols, because the celebrities got them for free for no other discernible reason.

I'm also scratching my head at this note on the Verge article:
Update April 20th, 11:30PM ET: Added confirmation from Musk that he’s also paying to verify William Shatner and removed references to the rapper Ice T.
 
Upvote
18 (18 / 0)
What debate? The "debate" can be summed up in one sentence: Musk is willfully ignorant of the actual Constitution, threw a hissy fit, and blew $40 billion just so he could post shit with theoretical impunity.

The only people that think Twitter is actually noteworthy (even now) are media people who can't figure out... guess what? There's a whole world out there that doesn't give a shit about Twitter! Stop with the Twitter articles and drawing all the oxygen out of the room. Find another soapbox and move on already.
 
Upvote
-15 (2 / -17)

IncorrigibleTroll

Ars Tribunus Angusticlavius
9,228
What... Freaking hell. Musk just continues to demonstrate how sad and pathetic he is, trying to placate celebrities who have criticized his decisions. The irony is, he just made those particular checkmarks status symbols, because the celebrities got them for free for no other discernible reason.

I'm also scratching my head at this note on the Verge article:

Who among us hasn't mixed up Shatner and Ice-T before?
 
Upvote
18 (18 / 0)

Baudelier

Ars Scholae Palatinae
898
Subscriptor++
I don't know who any of the people in this story are, but I found this bit interesting. Did someone clone this guy's cell phone? How did all MFA get bypassed?

I would RTFA, but the Wired article is paywalled.
The Wired article may be paywalled but, fortunately, the Arstechnica article is not.
 
Upvote
14 (14 / 0)

flunk

Ars Praefectus
5,678
Subscriptor
who is matt walsh? what is the daily wire? who is dell cameron? oh i guess i should read the wired piece, and... the editor-in-chief of wired is named... Gideon Lichfield?!
Google is your friend, use it. I didn't remember who he was initially, but one quick search is all it took to remind me. He's a self-described "Theocratic fascist", who spends a lot of time relying to posts on Twitter and writes books and magazine columns based on his personal opinions stated as if they were objective facts.
 
Upvote
7 (7 / 0)
D

Deleted member 174040

Guest
Seems many here are thinking that it's Matt Walsh that got suspended with all the "good riddance" comments. HE'S still there, it was a journalist that reported on it that got suspended. Not the publication that printed it either, just the reporter. Why not the publication also?

It's just a bullshit thing that Musk did...because he can. Just like giving some people blue checkmarks because he feels like it, while taking away everyone else's.

I’m sure the journalist has another account so he can continue his work; it just won't carry his name.


Edit: would Ars have run that article?
 
Upvote
1 (2 / -1)

msawzall

Ars Tribunus Angusticlavius
7,358
A few things that should be readily apparent by now:
1. Twitter doesn't have rules or guidelines anymore. Twitter has Elon's feelings. Whatever Elon feels like doing will be what happens.
2. Elon will do anything for attention and worship. Including overpaying for a social media platform. Which leads to...
3. Elon constantly lies. All the time. Whatever Elon needs to say to accomplish number 2, he'll do.
 
Upvote
26 (26 / 0)