<em>Cruella</em> dated for Disney+, as well, following "success" of March's <em>Raya</em>.
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Black Widow’s delays will finally end with combined theatrical, Disney+ launch
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*looks over towards living room, where my 150 inch screen and 4K projector Christmas gifts to myself are and Grinch grin*
I've said it before and I'll say it again; COVID-19 has forced movie production companies to release digitally or they get to eat shit, and here we are.
Also, I had no idea Cruella was coming out. I didn't even know it existed until I read this article.
I've said it before and I'll say it again; COVID-19 has forced movie production companies to release digitally or they get to eat shit, and here we are.
Also, I had no idea Cruella was coming out. I didn't even know it existed until I read this article.
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If they make any TV series a premium proposition, then my subscription will quickly end. I'm not interested in Disney's aging back catalogue, though Star did bring in a welcome boost in content. I'm paying the subscription fee for their new content.
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Put me into the pile of
"I have Disney+, no I don't see the point of paying
$30 extra to the mouse to see it a few weeks early"
A> all the theatres around my home seem to be now firmly in the
"if it loud its good, if its louder, its better " camp.
The last three times I went to a theatre I needed my Etymotics attenuators
it was that bad. (I actually fired up the SPL meter app on my phone during trailers,
and when the app kept reporting "hearing damage" I actually
wrote an email to IMAX flagging that particular theatre for improper calibration.
Are others finding theatres are just too darned loud?
B> will my life really be THAT different if I have to wait a few weeks for the movie to
show up on regular streaming? No.
C> My popcorn tastes better at home.
oh yes, and
D> I guess I am officially Grampa Simpson shaking my fist angrily at a cloud
Sigh.
"I have Disney+, no I don't see the point of paying
$30 extra to the mouse to see it a few weeks early"
A> all the theatres around my home seem to be now firmly in the
"if it loud its good, if its louder, its better " camp.
The last three times I went to a theatre I needed my Etymotics attenuators
it was that bad. (I actually fired up the SPL meter app on my phone during trailers,
and when the app kept reporting "hearing damage" I actually
wrote an email to IMAX flagging that particular theatre for improper calibration.
Are others finding theatres are just too darned loud?
B> will my life really be THAT different if I have to wait a few weeks for the movie to
show up on regular streaming? No.
C> My popcorn tastes better at home.
oh yes, and
D> I guess I am officially Grampa Simpson shaking my fist angrily at a cloud
Sigh.
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But why shouldn't day 15 or day 25 be realistic at this point? That's the part I don't get.
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I'm just glad we're finally getting a Black Widow movie. It has been a huge waste to take an actress with so much talent and give her so little to do across so many Marvel movies.
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I rarely go out to movies (~ one per year pre-pandemic) but when I do it's for the whole experience. If I just want the story I've always been content to wait. Pulling the chair close to a TV could do an ok job with the video, but my local theater's sound would be very hard to beat at home without violating city ordinances. It's an independent theater and I don't know whether they'll be able to come back after the pandemic, but I hope they make it.
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If I recall correctly, most 4K blu-rays are in the ~$50 range per for new releases; more so for the super-duper-extras-and-a-blowjob version. $30 for early access seems fair, since all Disney+ stuff is 4K streaming.
Even if you go for "just" blu-ray - those are what? $30 on release? The downside, of course, is you don't have physical media to fall back on.
Or, you can just wait til it's released for all D+ subscribers 3-4 months later without the extra fee. Or find a theater to go to.
Sure, I'd prefer they went the HBOMax route (I can't believe I am saying this) and release it for a month for subscribers at the same time of the theatrical release. But on the other hand, HBOMax is only doing that for a year, there's no guarantee that model will continue. And -- HBOMax costs more than D+ at this time.
I'm just not seeing a problem here.
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Yeah, it's not the same as going to a theater. At home, you don't have to listen to that one fucking asshole that has to point out everything that pops up on screen, or the kids talking through the entire runtime, or the one person who thinks every joke requires they laugh like their life depended on it. No sticky seats and covered with god knows what. No $30 beers and $10 buckets of popcorn. And I have to wear pants.
Not seeing how a theater ever beats out watching at home. It's more expensive, higher effort, and less enjoyable. A worse experience in every single way.
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Secretary, bodyguard, not-a-love-interest, token female, second class hero (no evident super-human powers), writer's excuse for using deus ex machina, lullaby singer, what else?
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I'm sure there's been some sort of profit optimization calculus applied. I wouldn't care to guess whether the variables are weighted based just on empirically observed sales data or include value for some hand-wavy public/executive perception.
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$30 price as an early access product, I kinda get. For a family of 4 it's a no brainer especially if you'd rather stay home. $30 on top of a monthly subscription? The value proposition starts to slip. Certainly not something we'd choose here.
Since it's completely non-essential and you're going to get access in other ways eventually anyway, I can't really blame Disney for charging all they think the market will bear.
Since it's completely non-essential and you're going to get access in other ways eventually anyway, I can't really blame Disney for charging all they think the market will bear.
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Did you also announce your decision in song ?
Let ...it go..... Let ....it go....
...there's so much to watch right now...
...and the old never bothered me anyways...
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July 9 had previously been announced as the release date for "Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings", the Marvel movie that comes after Black Widow.
Perhaps Shang-Chi will be shuffled down to the previously announced November 5 release date for The Eternals, and so on down the line?
Perhaps Shang-Chi will be shuffled down to the previously announced November 5 release date for The Eternals, and so on down the line?
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July! Great, my wife and I will both be vaccinated and clear by the end of April. It's back to the theaters for us.
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This Premiere+ nonsense has gotta stop... do the right thing, Disney, and release it to paying Disney+ subscribers like HBO Max is doing with their 2021 WB theater releases.
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The way meetings keep getting canceled I'll have a nice playlist on my next trans-pacific flight. Although I'd trade all those Marvell movie marathons (or even the all Harry Potter e-book sessions) for the much envied ability to fall asleep on an airplane.
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I thought 4k blu rays were in relatively the same price range as regular blu rays. $30-40 at most,$20 or less on sale, is that not the case?
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As opposed to going to the theatre to see it early? My home setup has arguably better picture (as Disney+ gives me 4k HDR), non-deafening sound, way better food, no lines, a much more romantic setting due to no other people, and lower cost.
I mean, yeah, Disney as a company sucks. But the value proposition to customers here is pretty compelling compared to the alternatives.
This is a good deal if I want to see it day 1. If I don't care and can wait 90 days, it's an even better deal, which again is no different than the theatre model except that used to take far longer than 90 days.
Really, this pricing scheme is little different than games. People who want to play it on day 1 are paying the most. People who wait get sales, discounts, and the GOTY edition that has all the DLC bundled in. Of the things I can get mad about in media, "delivering a better product for less cost to me" is really not very high on the list.
Netflix thinking I should have to pay extra for 4k in this day and age? Well, that's different...
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It definitely won't. You're not really buying the movie, you're just paying for the privilege of watching it before it's available to everyone else on the service.
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For us there are pros and cons. Going to the movies (either we pay to bring kids along or we pay to leave them behind) is so much more expensive. I'm definitely doing it sometimes for the opportunity to get out of the house, but for stuff I was going to watch with my kids anyways I'm totally down to pay a one-off fee instead of paying per kid coming to the movies with me. I probably won't be going to the theaters for any Pixar or Disney movies ever again with this scheme. But I definitely am ready for theaters to be open again for most everything else.
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My family will be paying depending on what the theater situation is where we live when we get to July 9th. We'd MUCH rather have the theater experience back. That being said if it's not an option we'll pay the $30.
We already did it for Raya and it's definitely cheaper than taking me, my wife, and 2 kids to the theater (we're currently watching all the Marvel movies in order every Saturday night - just did Winter Soldier last weekend). Big budget Marvel with all the explosions and such definitely deserves the theater experience if at all possible.
We already did it for Raya and it's definitely cheaper than taking me, my wife, and 2 kids to the theater (we're currently watching all the Marvel movies in order every Saturday night - just did Winter Soldier last weekend). Big budget Marvel with all the explosions and such definitely deserves the theater experience if at all possible.
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This is one of the right ways to do things.
I spent $2000 on a home theater. Why would I spend money to see media in someone else's?
I have had 3 free public theater passes for years. I have not used them. I would rather pay to see movies in my own theater. This is not going to change.
I spent $2000 on a home theater. Why would I spend money to see media in someone else's?
I have had 3 free public theater passes for years. I have not used them. I would rather pay to see movies in my own theater. This is not going to change.
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How come everyone here is one-upping each other about their home theater setup...
....but omits the ONE main feature that is essential
The ability to pause the movie and run to the toilet
....but omits the ONE main feature that is essential
The ability to pause the movie and run to the toilet
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i retort to others, i think anyone who pays $30 for this is eager to see it.
no skin off my back.
no skin off my back.
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That would certainly save me some money - anything the studios delay the disc release of, I'm refusing to go see in theaters.
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Maybe there's a regional difference in cost?
Last time I bought a new Marvel movie on Blu-Ray (Captain Marvel) was $25 on release. I wasn't on 4K at that point, so I might just be off on that.
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Are people on here still buying blue-rays ?
I bought a couple back in the day, but realized over time that you really don't rewatch things as much as you thought you would
I bought a couple back in the day, but realized over time that you really don't rewatch things as much as you thought you would
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Ars Scholae Palatinae
Realistically they could give away the movie for free.....and the merchandising alone would more than pay for it and a hefty profit.
Fattening the mouse's appetite isn't helping anyone except the shareholders. So buy it on two accounts please.
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Interesting. I was thinking the complete opposite. It costs my wife and I AUD$50 to go to the cinema and get popcorn, ice-creams and drinks. That's less than USD$40 and the experience is completely incomparable to me - the theatre has better visuals, audio especially and a better environment. Less than USD$10 for snacks and a vastly superior experience? Going to the cinemas to see it is an absolute no-brainer. At least now that it's safe to do so (in Australia anyway, I wouldn't go to the cinema in the US under any circumstances at the moment).
These premium VOD releases just don't make sense to me. The exception I guess would be films I take my kids to, this would be quite a bit cheaper than buying an extra 3 tickets. But my kids and I would still much rather go to the movies. The experience is just sooooooooo much better. Plus, in a dark cinema I can watch a movie without distraction. My phone can't distract me because if I get it out I'll be asked to leave, my kids will be quiet and still because they are in a cinema...outside of a pandemic making me not want to go to a cinema (and I'm ready to go see Black Widow in an actual theatre), this $30 price tag is completely not worth it to me.
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Ars crowd pov aside, this will be an interesting test for future blockbuster approach for theaters and streaming services. WV, FWS, Loki was designed and budgeted for streaming, BW was not.
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My biggest complaint is that if they're going to sell it on D+ I wish they'd just open it up and sell it everywhere. I'm really not interested in splitting my digital library between different services. So my family waits until it opens up to the other services like iTunes even if it's content we'd be happy to buy (stuff we would have paid more than $30 to see in theaters in the first place)
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I agree with you that while I don't really need early access, I don't have an issue with the business model. However, there are always people who want something for nothing. I saw commenter on another website saying it's a totally ripoff for something he was going to get for free anyways in a few months... when someone pointed out they would pay something similar to go to the movies with their friends/family... they were like "at least it's helping a local business"... and then later saying "eh I can't wait to it to come on my Disney+" so I'm just going to pirate it."
The following are all the same poster SMH
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Hey, let’s swap some neurons. I do trans-atlantic flights, and I get the best sleep ever, every single time.
This sounds great, but I always bring a book I’ve been looking forward to, or my Switch, and the frustration at not being able to take advantage of six consecutive hours is real.
The biggest kick is that when on land, I have the worst insomnia.
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It's an outrageous greed move by a company flexing its intellectual property might and it makes me sad for the future of entertainment.
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Holy cow, $30 on top of the already-high monthly fee for Disney? For just one movie, that you could probably get in a month or two on DVD for $15 or so? What the hell are they smoking?
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Yeah i’ll wait for it to become normally available like the rest on disney+
If it was 10 or 20$ i might have considered it, but tjis is more expensive then the cinema, and they hve the whole hardware setup, staff, etc to maintain.
30$ without subscription
Or 15 with would have been a great pitch imho.
But subscription and. 30$ seems just too much.
Especially that you don’t own it after, stop subscribing and gone.
Plus what does in encourage, a subscription to then pay for other stuff on top of it, not a fan of that idea.
Disney+ is great, genuinely is, but this i’m not paying for,
Same with Raya of Mulan. I’ll wait for them to be added as normal, although i’d be happy to pay for a movie ticket.
If it was 10 or 20$ i might have considered it, but tjis is more expensive then the cinema, and they hve the whole hardware setup, staff, etc to maintain.
30$ without subscription
Or 15 with would have been a great pitch imho.
But subscription and. 30$ seems just too much.
Especially that you don’t own it after, stop subscribing and gone.
Plus what does in encourage, a subscription to then pay for other stuff on top of it, not a fan of that idea.
Disney+ is great, genuinely is, but this i’m not paying for,
Same with Raya of Mulan. I’ll wait for them to be added as normal, although i’d be happy to pay for a movie ticket.
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I understand what he's worried about, even if you don't. The "whales" also helped subsidize freemium mobile games, and the lure of chasing those whales turned the freemium mobile games into the travesty that they've become. Whether he's right or not, I don't know; but the OP is worried this model is a stepping stone toward that.
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"already high"? Huh? Disney+ is *cheap*.
If you're willing to wait, you can get it for no extra cost on Disney+. And although "get it in a month or two on DVD for $15" is not happening and literally never has before it will of course be on bluray and DVD in time for Christmas. This is an alternative option for those who would normally see it in theatres, but don't see that as viable (totally fair if you live in a country like the US) and still don't want to wait.
I, personally, do not feel it's worth paying $30 to watch this at home. But that's because going to the theatre is basically the same price and offers such a vastly superior experience (and COVID doesn't currently exist in my community). But considering that the people in this thread seem split right down the middle it seems that many people are.
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