The 2020 Audi RS7—our all-time favorite fastback just got even better
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Heh, I like how you say Volkswagen on this story, but Porsche on the Taycan one
Because this trip was paid for by VW (the brand, not VW Group), but Audi knew I would be in town then and invited me to drive the RS7. It's the same reason that the travel disclosures for the Honda e and Land Rover say VW paid.
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I would postulate that it aligns more competitively with the M6 and the CLS 63. Slight but important difference as the chassis is different.
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I can only speak for myself, but the answer to that would be a) the Model S looks like an aging Mazda sedan and b) I like going on long road trips and have zero interest in planning a route according to a supercharger network or repeatedly having to wait an hour+ to fully recharge.
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- Because you like contemporary design?
- Because you live in an area not smothered in readily available charging stations?
- Because you like the thought of having your car serviced by a much wider network of mechanics/dealers?
- Because you're thoroughly tired of Tesla zealots thread-crapping over any transport-related article that contains the word "hybrid"?
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My brain says this car is ridiculous and stupid.
My heart thinks this is the greatest thing in the history of the universe.
God it looks good, I haven't been this stricken with a car since the '96 Viper GTS.
My heart thinks this is the greatest thing in the history of the universe.
God it looks good, I haven't been this stricken with a car since the '96 Viper GTS.
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Have a look at the drubbing the S8 (the performance identical, but more conservatively styled than the RS7) put on the B7 Alpina....
2013 model dont forget.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhoMzFv_S-w
These cars run 10s quarter miles with a tune..
If those pictures are to be believed it also looks like they ditched the air/water setup that was prone to heatsoaking, and are using a proper air/air intercooler..
I have a good friend with an e63S AMG.. and as nice as it is. even on race gas its not beating a tuned rs7.. Heck my 20 year old v6 car is door to door with it.
Im really curious what these new cars will do, especially once the aftermarket cracks them.
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Let's take a moment to appreciate how *amazing* the last generation of ICE cars are.
I feel like this and the Porsche article are excellent counterparts, for the beginning of the brief few years in which both technologies overlap at the high end.
I feel like this and the Porsche article are excellent counterparts, for the beginning of the brief few years in which both technologies overlap at the high end.
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Thank you. That was certainly in my mind as I wrote the two articles.
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Uses up to 11.6 litres of premium fuel per hundred kms... yikes! I suppose if you can afford the car, you can afford the bill that makes the smiles.
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Hmm... Even the venerable 2020 Ford Mustang GT500 is ONLY available with a Tremec made DCT. Every single one coming out of the factory. While it might certainly be possible to outfit one with a transmission from a GT350 (only available with a 6spd MANUAL transmission - go figure) - it's unlikely that the transmission/clutch will be able to deal with some 760hp and an equally stupid amount of torque and retain a relatively moderate clutch pedal feel in a vehicle that is going to be north of $110,000 USD.
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The E63S 4-Matic is superior to the RS7 at literally everything, in a drag race to any speed, around a track, no matter what the competition is; if driver ability is equal a stock RS7 will simply not beat a stock E63S. There is not one aspect of performance that the Audi can lay claim to being on par with that of the E63S. If you don't believe me, just use your search bar. The E63S falls behind only the M5 in straight-line performance and it leaves every other high-performance sedan on earth in the dust around corners. The RS7 will not be faster than the E63 in any situation unless the former is tuned heavily. That kind of defeats the point of these comparisons doesn't it? AMG delivers a stock package that neither M nor Audi Sport can compete with. The M5 has astonishing acceleration, it can certainly outrun the E63, but it's lateral grip in the corners is vastly inferior to the E63. Just ask Chris Harris what he thinks about the M5 vs E63S; the RS7 will never catch them in a straight line and it won't catch an E63S in a corner either.
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Will there be ICE cars in 3, 5, or 10 years time? Certainly.
However, car manufacturers have already started diverting their resources away from their development. Mercedes Benz's development chief Markus Schaefer stated a week ago that their current four cylinder engine is likely to be the last that they will develop, ever.
For those of us who appreciate oil-burning cars, it's a time to celebrate the fun we've had and the fumes we breathed. It's the end of a glorious era.
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Gorgeous car. Now, ffs, get that horrible ICE out of your highend vehicles, and I'd buy one on the spot.
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Because not everybody can use a EV for various reasons.
But mainly because its not a Tesla and Musk had nothing to do with it.
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guess you are not buying any new cars. Well you can still get a Miata.
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Man, I will work tirelessly to eliminate cars from our city streets because they have been nearly unmitigated disasters for our world and society.
But until we succeed, I'd be happy to look at that thing all day long. That is one seriously pretty car!
Yeah, internal consistency is not my strongest suit...
But until we succeed, I'd be happy to look at that thing all day long. That is one seriously pretty car!
Yeah, internal consistency is not my strongest suit...
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I don't follow auto development particularly closely, but I remain surprised there isn't more focus on head-up displays. I realise there will be regulatory issues, questions of safety and standards and conformity, but I'd have expected those well on the way to being solved by now.
This was particularly brought to mind by the photo of the Audi's very pretty map display: yes, the dash-screen stuff looks nice and is undoubtedly useful but why, in 2019, are we taking our eyes off the road for stuff like 'Turn left in 200 yards' or even registering a speed limit or fuel level warning?
Perhaps there are more barriers than I realise, to widespread adoption of HUD?
This was particularly brought to mind by the photo of the Audi's very pretty map display: yes, the dash-screen stuff looks nice and is undoubtedly useful but why, in 2019, are we taking our eyes off the road for stuff like 'Turn left in 200 yards' or even registering a speed limit or fuel level warning?
Perhaps there are more barriers than I realise, to widespread adoption of HUD?
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There is no CLS 63 anymore. Only the mild hybrid 53. The GT coupe 4 door is the CLS 63 now.
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If you tick the HUD option, then you get the navigation prompts there.
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I couldn't agree more. I've had a '15 Mazda 6 for 2 months, and it has a HUD that does little more than speedometer and turn-by-turn sat nav directions. It's glorious and I almost never look at the dials any more.
All cars should have them.
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I daresay that the RS7 is less a competitor to the E63S and M5 than the M6/M8 Gran “Coupe” and GT63S.
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I have a friend with an RS6 Estate / Wagon.
It is literally the most bananas car I have ever driven, it is neck-hurting quick in a straight line, hammers around bends with the arse hanging out and does so while hauling a Leather Chesterfield from Essex to Surrey.
Oh an the noise, and the pops and bangs when you click the paddle to change gear and the urgency.....
We did a track day in it (after decanting the sofa) and it was just insanely easy to really, really hustle in.
I've driven faster cars, more powerful cars and even cars that handle better, but as a package the RS6 is just nuts.
There is an RS7 for sale locally, I do not own a car, nor need a car but every time I walk past the dealer I drool a little over it and think about buying it specifically for a European road trip that we are planning, but the reality is that we will will probably just rent a Toureg.....
diesel.
It is literally the most bananas car I have ever driven, it is neck-hurting quick in a straight line, hammers around bends with the arse hanging out and does so while hauling a Leather Chesterfield from Essex to Surrey.
Oh an the noise, and the pops and bangs when you click the paddle to change gear and the urgency.....
We did a track day in it (after decanting the sofa) and it was just insanely easy to really, really hustle in.
I've driven faster cars, more powerful cars and even cars that handle better, but as a package the RS6 is just nuts.
There is an RS7 for sale locally, I do not own a car, nor need a car but every time I walk past the dealer I drool a little over it and think about buying it specifically for a European road trip that we are planning, but the reality is that we will will probably just rent a Toureg.....
diesel.
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"...but I'm told a slightly louder exhaust is planned for the US market..."
Yes, if you tick the 'big dick energy' checkbox you'll also get go-faster stripes along the side.
Yes, if you tick the 'big dick energy' checkbox you'll also get go-faster stripes along the side.
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"Somebody's on Volkswagen's payroll" is not a statement of opinion, it is a statement deliberately made to sound like a fact. And since Jonathan is most likely not an employee of VW, full-time or otherwise, it should come as no suprise that the OP got shown a yellow card.
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