How the net neutrality repeal helps ISPs keep their hidden fees hidden

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There’s no point in acting surprised about it. All the planning charts and demolition orders have been on display at your local planning department in Alpha Centauri for 50 of your Earth years, so you’ve had plenty of time to lodge any formal complaint and it’s far too late to start making a fuss about it now. ... What do you mean you’ve never been to Alpha Centauri? Oh, for heaven’s sake, mankind, it’s only four light years away, you know. I’m sorry, but if you can’t be bothered to take an interest in local affairs, that’s your own lookout. Energize the demolition beams.
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mnhsty

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This would not be a problem except for the monopolies that the government has allowed and even fostered. In competitive industries, companies have to satisfy customer demands. That's why there is no equivalent problem learning the specs on automobiles and appliances. When one company is allowed to dominate a market, it does not have to provide anything.
 
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This would not be a problem except for the monopolies that the government has allowed and even fostered. In competitive industries, companies have to satisfy customer demands. That's why there is no equivalent problem learning the specs on automobiles and appliances. When one company is allowed to dominate a market, it does not have to provide anything.
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Yeah! Car manufacturers are competitive, and they never had to have stupid government regulation shoved down their throats to be transparent with their customers!
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Oh wait...
 
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brewejon

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On a complete tangent, what's with the discrepancy between the down and up speeds you're given? Surely if you need 100 Mbps down, you need more than 5 Mbps up? Is this a standard thing in the States?
The precedent was set back in the analog modem days, when ISP modem banks connected to the POTS network using digital lines, typically T1s (1.54 Mbps). Those were split up into twenty-four 56K channels (64K minus overhead), thus '56K modem'.

However, at the end-user's location the modem connected to the POTS network using an analog line (Plain Old Telephone Service, complete with dial tone and occasional static) and was only capable of around 33Kbps, if memory serves. This asymmetry (56K down, 33K up) was deemed acceptable since most people consumed Internet data rather than publish it. They'd send out lightweight web requests but received (relatively) heavy web pages. The same is generally true today, although the data size has been scaled up.

DSL technology expanded upon modem speeds, but still carried over some of the same traffic asymmetry quirks. That brought us to around 20Mbps using something like AT&T's Uverse service.

As for why cable service is asymmetric, someone else will have to answer that. I've actually never had it myself. And fiber service should not have any built-in asymmetries at all, but that's a rare thing in the God-blessed U.S. of A. We're too stoopid here to deserve widespread fiber deployment (even though we invented the technology in the first place).

Thanks for the history explainer!

Don't feel too bad about your fiber. In Australia (my home country) the government decided that we all needed fiber (Yay! Fiber to the home for everyone!). But then the next government came in to power, and one of their election promises had been to do the same thing, but cheaper. I mean, it was one of many, many promises, but because they won they claimed their idea had the mandate. The problem? To do it cheaper, they're doing it FTTN (fiber to the node), and using the existing copper network for the last bit to homes. Genius, guys.
 
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