Bill Gates. Mysterious deaths. IBM trying to act like a nimble startup. This story has it all!
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[url=https://arstechnica.co.uk/civis/viewtopic.php?p=33582009#p33582009:2swdab1x said:UncleToad[/url]":2swdab1x]This is all very interesting, but it misses the parallel developments going on in the UK and Europe at that time. The history of computing of personal computing is not just USA based.

The IBM 5150 predated Van Halen's album 5150, and even then Van Halen's 5150 was referencing a section of California law.
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Deign to,"The machine that would become known as the real IBM PC begins, of all places, at Atari. Apparently feeling their oats in the wake of the Atari VCS's sudden Space Invaders-driven explosion in popularity and the release of its own first PCs, the Atari 400 and 800, they made a proposal to IBM's chairman Frank Cary in July of 1980: if IBM wished to have a PC of its own, Atari would deign to build it for them."
The machine... began?
Atari would design...
The IBM 5150 predated Van Halen's album 5150, and even then Van Halen's 5150 was referencing a section of California law.
Now you know.![]()
Thanks for the little useless tidbit of information, i love that kind of stuff!
By the way they weren't Van Halen at the time, they were Van Hagar![]()
"Deign" means "to demean oneself" or to "stoop down", which I agree isn't quite appropriate here (who would find it beneath their dignity to work with IBM?)"The machine that would become known as the real IBM PC begins, of all places, at Atari. Apparently feeling their oats in the wake of the Atari VCS's sudden Space Invaders-driven explosion in popularity and the release of its own first PCs, the Atari 400 and 800, they made a proposal to IBM's chairman Frank Cary in July of 1980: if IBM wished to have a PC of its own, Atari would deign to build it for them."
The machine... began?
Atari would design...
Now that's what I call a lede!Bill Gates, mysterious deaths, and the business machine that sparked a home revolution.
One thing that really gets me about the PC is just how bad it was. It was a terrible, terrible computer. Almost everything about it was kind of crippled, to the point that the 8088, running at 4.77MHz, was functionally just about the same speed as the 1MHz Apple II.
There's this tendency by later writers to sort of enshrine the PC, to make it better than it was, because it won the war. In almost every way, it was a horrible computer. But it had two enormous competitive advantages: it was fully documented and open, and IBM was selling it. Those two things are why it won, and almost everything else about the computer is why the war lasted as long as it did.
Dammit! Cool articles like this keep me coming back to Ars in spite of the insufferable climate change sermons and politics mudslinging.
It's almost as if a site centered on technology is really, really good at its core competency.
I miss those days sometimes—even though I recognize that my memories of them are very rose-tinted by the redshift of the past.The really terrible thing about the IBM PC was the abysmal 808x architecture with it's "Calculator Chip" heritage still intact.
The segmented memory architecture, the IRQ-hell, and masked interrupts, it was crap from the start and hamstrung the "PC" growth terribly.
There's this tendency by later writers to sort of enshrine the PC, to make it better than it was, because it won the war. In almost every way, it was a horrible computer. But it had two enormous competitive advantages: it was fully documented and open, and IBM was selling it. Those two things are why it won, and almost everything else about the computer is why the war lasted as long as it did.
It would be really interesting to learn more about those that did not win the war. Do you know of any examples?
Your floppies were probably 5 1/4" and 3.5" double density. Early DOS versions supported single density drives and media, but I'm nearly certain that the 5150 came with a DS/DD drive. Single density was a home computer thing. The Apple II and C64 drives had something on the order of 160KB capacity. The cool thing is that you could usually hook up a 3.5" floppy to the original controller as long as you had the right cable and DOS version-- but only for 720K double density, which I imagine is what you ended up with. Also, the fact yours had a hard drive suggests it may have been an XT rather than an original PC.In 1998 I acquired a 1987 version of the 5150, it was 20MB drive model and used to be a workhorse at the US energy dept.
It ended up behind what what used to be the Iron curtain courtesy of some US church supporting brethren in new European democracies.
It was my first computer and it essentially allowed me to experience the PC revolution from the very beginning albeit a decade or so later (it was a fast-track after that).
What a fun that machine wasSingle density 5 inch floppy, black-green screen that waved so much it would induce dizziness after prolonged use, 110/220 volts adapter was housed in a cocoa box, which wasn't washed properly so every time it heated, the room was filled with the smell of hot chocolate
I installed Volkov commander and wrote my thesis on that machine.
The only HW upgrade was a single density 3.5 inch drive which was a pain in the ass to fit because what was a standard size in 1998 was not what IBM used back then.
I missed those days![]()
It most certainly was not. The 8088 flat out ran calculations an order of magnitude faster than a 1 MHz 6502 if you took advantage of its 16 bit architecture. I guess that if you tried to port a 6502 program to it directly, manipulating data in bytes and not taking advantage of its 8 registers over the 6502's three registers, it would be a lot slower.One thing that really gets me about the PC is just how bad it was. It was a terrible, terrible computer. Almost everything about it was kind of crippled, to the point that the 8088, running at 4.77MHz, was functionally just about the same speed as the 1MHz Apple II.
I understood them, because in the pre-internet days I WENT TO THE LIBRARY. And talked to older folks who worked with computers. You didn't have to know the guts of the computer to use it, but it helped. I guess that is still true today.But: nobody really knew that. Nobody understood computers back then, or hardly anyone.
I was a teenager at the time, and while I could use a PC or an Apple perfectly well, and program them in BASIC and hook up peripherals and that sort of thing, I didn't really understand them at a deep level. I was pretty advanced as users went, and if I couldn't tell you why the PC kinda sucked, Lord knows not that many others could.
One thing that really gets me about the PC is just how bad it was. It was a terrible, terrible computer. Almost everything about it was kind of crippled, to the point that the 8088, running at 4.77MHz, was functionally just about the same speed as the 1MHz Apple II.
But: nobody really knew that. Nobody understood computers back then, or hardly anyone.
I was a teenager at the time, and while I could use a PC or an Apple perfectly well, and program them in BASIC and hook up peripherals and that sort of thing, I didn't really understand them at a deep level. I was pretty advanced as users went, and if I couldn't tell you why the PC kinda sucked, Lord knows not that many others could.
It was an abysmal base to build on, and yet, with all the money flowing into that architecture, they were able to bend it, and bend it, and bend it, until it actually got pretty darn good. It's kind of like a stunted, twisted little seedling that was gradually coaxed into a mighty tree, while much better, stronger seedlings died out due to neglect.
There's this tendency by later writers to sort of enshrine the PC, to make it better than it was, because it won the war. In almost every way, it was a horrible computer. But it had two enormous competitive advantages: it was fully documented and open, and IBM was selling it. Those two things are why it won, and almost everything else about the computer is why the war lasted as long as it did.
This is all very interesting, but it misses the parallel developments going on in the UK and Europe at that time. The history of computing of personal computing is not just USA based.
Paul