SpaceX pushed “sniper” theory with the feds far more than is publicly known

"It came out of nowhere, and it was really violent."

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[graylshaped]

But USAID is something that needed to be chastened.
...
Whatever Elon's growing list of bad decisions and crimes are (And I fully admit he has plenty), this is not one of them. This needed to happen.

Don't forget they had the audacity to question his actions in Ukraine! Unacceptable!

Dude, he is not going to buy you a pony.

 

[graylshaped]

I don't disagree, I think it also has to be tied to a local emphasis when providing services. In Haiti USAID went to suppliers to provide power and utilities from majoritively American / foreign contractors, instead of local ones.

T.R.U.M.P. Inc has no interest in supporting local, foreign businesses over US-based ones. Your examples are fig leaves.

You make valid points, but they are not why USAid was gutted by this administration so viciously on the first day of the administration with no thought to transitioning the work in a manner that didn't kill people. Not only did the end NOT justify the means, but the end of their action was not the end you suggest it was.

 

[OrvGull]

One of the worst examples was us and the World Bank sponsoring a "housing expo" where we invited architects into a contest to make the best homes they could for Haitians. Only, most of them were designed by foreigners, many built with exotic materials you couldn't possibly find in Haiti, at prices most within Haiti could not afford. Most of the houses were wasted, none served as a model for a mass housing development as intended.

https://reliefweb.int/report/haiti/haiti’s-two-million-dollar-ghost-town

We can't even successfully build enough homes for Americans. I'm not sure why anyone would want our opinion on how to do it.

 

[GreyAreaUK]

14.5 hours of that is spent tweeting.

Followed by 1.5hrs of getting owned in Diablo before stomping off in a huff.

 

[Scary Devil Monastery]

The way things are going we MIGHT actually get to the point where corporations are waging open war on each other, but I don't think we're there yet.

It's also possible he thinks they did it because it's the kind of thing he'd do in their situation.

It'll depend on which corporations are embedded within the government, and which are not. We're getting to that point quickly.

 

[acrewdog]

Plus it seems unlikely ULA security would allow a sniper to set up on the roof or that no one would have seen a sniper setting up and contacted the press.

Also they are in the middle of an active Space force base! (was it still Air Force back then?)
The military would notice folks using weapons on their property.

 

[The Dark]

Also they are in the middle of an active Space force base! (was it still Air Force back then?)
The military would notice folks using weapons on their property.

It was still Air Force. The explosion was in 2016 and the US Spacy wasn't created until late 2019.

 

[deadman12-4]

It was a rhetorical question. As I said, I've believed he's a Nazi for over four years. I didn't need his Nazi salutes or Twitter antics to figure it out, I just never made the mistake of ignoring what he actually is.

hmm... I guess I missed the sarcasm, sorry. Its hard to tell because there are alot of people who deny reality/gaslight and pretend musk is just a poor victim who should be protected. Sorry!

 

[hansolo]

Go figure. An article debunking a conspiracy theory has now attracted all sorts of conspiracy believers in the comments spewing all sorts of conspiracies.

 

[ars_technocrat]

Nope. The contract was awarded to ULA in the early 2010s, and the contract period extended into the early 2020s.

Thanks for the clarification

 

[DarkForestTraveler]

To be completely fair, I think it also depends on which part of NASA we're talking about. The louder and more publicly noticed it is, the harder it becomes to "fail fast, fail often." I have the impression that the "first A" in NASA has been beavering along in relative obscurity (and, to be fair, with lower budgets) on lots of "trial and error" stuff, and rarely has its failures get noticed. OTOH, "S" NASA's failures tend to be big, noisy, flashy, expensive, and/or all of the above. Which helps turn them into political footballs.

And it's hardly just NASA -- look at any high-visibility military procurement program, or any big-budget government operation, not just recently, but going back to 1776 at least. It's easier the see the ones from the past 1-2 decades thanks to recency bias, but it's hardly a new phenomenon. I'm sure somewhere there's some cuneiform clay tablets with similar complaints dating from the ancient Hittites....

Agree on all points. I worked for both S and A and you’re quite right. I was comparing to SX, hence just the S side.

 

[llanitedave]

I very much don't give a shit about your thoughts on my career choices, I'm much happier now.

Interesting, given that you thought everyone needed to give a shit about YOUR thoughts, otherwise you would not have so generously gifted them to the world.

 

[llanitedave]

T.R.U.M.P. Inc has no interest in supporting local, foreign businesses over US-based ones. Your examples are fig leaves.

You make valid points, but they are not why USAid was gutted by this administration so viciously on the first day of the administration with no thought to transitioning the work in a manner that didn't kill people. Not only did the end NOT justify the means, but the end of their action was not the end you suggest it was.

Actually if the end was to maximize human misery, the means were the most appropriate imaginable.

 

[Faceless Man]

His insane mother seems to be the one who created that particular apologetic.

So did she know that Asperger was a Nazi when she claimed that, or is that just one of those lucky coincidences?

 

[Faceless Man]

Which is a direct result of the Republican "privatize everything!" ideology. It's empirically proven that the best way to alleviate poverty is giving people money (shocking I know, given that poverty is a lack of money), but Republicans never allow the most efficient way to solve a problem as that involves the government doing things directly and cutting out the private sector entirely.

Depends on what the problem you're trying to solve is. To some, the problem is that the Government is doing something that could be earning money for rich people, thus making them more rich. Viewed that way, the best way to solve the problem is to privatise the process so that the oligarchs can divert more money into their private bank accounts.

If however, you see the problem as providing services in the most efficient way possible, then yes the solution is for the government to provide those services.

 

[Deleted member 1085921]

Interesting, given that you thought everyone needed to give a shit about YOUR thoughts, otherwise you would not have so generously gifted them to the world.

That doesn't mean you or anyone else is entitled to my intellectual labor or are positioned to whine about criticize my career choices.

I'd rather build the future than simply write about it.

I'd rather have adventures than write about them.

I'd rather life a beautiful life amidst an increasingly dystopian world than write about such dystopias.

Edit:typo

 

[Deleted member 1085921]

Also they are in the middle of an active Space force base! (was it still Air Force back then?)
The military would notice folks using weapons on their property.

That I'm semi-skeptical on, it took them awhile to realize over a dozen airmen were dropping tabs of acid between shifts at Warren AFB.

 

[Deleted member 1085921]

hmm... I guess I missed the sarcasm, sorry. Its hard to tell because there are alot of people who deny reality/gaslight and pretend musk is just a poor victim who should be protected. Sorry!

A rhetorical question is like asking, "Is the sky blue?" on a clear day on Earth. That's different from sarcasm, it's a question that functions as a statement.

 

[deadman12-4]

A rhetorical question is like asking, "Is the sky blue?" on a clear day on Earth. That's different from sarcasm, it's a question that functions as a statement.

you can say so, but there are posters here on ars that say that EXACT same thing but in a non-rhetorical manner. Hence the poster's need to clarify.

 

[Deleted member 1085921]

you can say so, but there are posters here on ars that say that EXACT same thing but in a non-rhetorical manner. Hence the poster's need to clarify.

There was no need for me to clarify unless you ignored what I wrote after the rhetorical question.

And again, that's not sarcasm.

 

[eyesoars]

you can say so, but there are posters here on ars that say that EXACT same thing but in a non-rhetorical manner. Hence the poster's need to clarify.

What color is the sky on your planet?

 

[deadman12-4]

There was no need for me to clarify unless you ignored what I wrote after the rhetorical question.

And again, that's not sarcasm.

so are you a musk supporter then? You keep doubling back and down voting my attempts to clairfy. "It was rhetorical" is sounding like "i was joking because I got caught".

 

[AceRimmer]

No, they are companies in this world:
https://meincmagazine.com/tech-policy...m-fine-admits-to-terrorizing-innocent-people/

For those who think no one (including a pro) could get by security with a rifle, how do you explain a guy with no training getting on a roof to shoot Trump?

Neither of these things are even relevant to the dicussion....

 

[Wheels Of Confusion]

Neither of these things are even relevant to the dicussion....

If you see something that looks like a circular impression in the dirt from a certain angle in certain lighting conditions on a low-resolution video still, it's probably zebras.