Player_16":wwrl4qvc said:
Cryolithic":wwrl4qvc said:
Wow, you're either really young, or swimming in the Kool-Aid. While I'll admit that Apple has definitely done certain things well, they've rarely ever trailblazed.
HP:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/busin ... 67704.html
or
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hewlett-Packard
Not that I think HP is amazing either, but I just don't get it with Apple fanatics, there seems to be some belief that everything that apple has taken and improved upon successfully was theirs from the start. I had a huge discussion last year where a class mate had brought up a number of claims of apple firsts, all of which were not.
That's a 4 year old article and where can I get a Molecular logic gate so I can build something infinitely detailed and bring it to market? That's always been a dream.
Apple use marketing to sell a product to you and me; not to some BIG corporate and Uni's. Now take a look at the 'other things' that were done by 'other companies' -using MS as a template. You're forcing yourself to do things (usually) the MS way and you see where that gets you. MS has horrible UI design and many companies are so busy just wanting to make a quick buck that design just goes right out the window (no pun intended). They don't really care about people: only the company that buys their wares: Target, EMI, Unilever, Black & Vetch, etc. Sure Apple may not have really 'trailblazed' but they have/are paving the roads to make things that much easier for
anybody without a degree or parents in 'computer' fields or fat pockets to come up with good functioning concepts on the fly. Kool-Aid, and fanatics are insulting terms but after so many years in the corporate wildness of MS, people are given the chance to branch out in different directions: Unix, Android, iPods, WebOS, etc…
Sure it was a 4year old article. The point was to show that HP was a "trailblazer".
I'm trying to make sense of the rest of this, but it's difficult.
From what I can pick out:
With an apple product, you're forcing yourself to do it the apple way, how is this any different? In fact, the iProducts are more closed than even MS platforms. You can only develop for them using apple's products, the way they want, using their Ad platform (as an example). BTW, I use linux for about 40% of my daily usage.
UI design is fairly subjective. We can agree to disagree on this, no point debating further.
If you believe Apple cares about "people" any more than *any* other corporation, I've got some ocean front property in arizona I'd like to sell, cheap.
I really can't see what apple is doing to help people come up with concepts on the fly...I really don't understand the purpose of this sentence other than standard Apple cheerleading.
Kool-Aid and fanatic may be insulting if you wish to take it that way, however I don't see what it has to do with the rest of the sentence, nor what the rest of that sentence has to do with anything that I said.
Perhaps you didn't notice that I was actually giving apple praise. As I said, they do a lot of things very well. My point was that little of it was "trailblazing".
Next time, try to understand the point being made, rather than assuming an apple attack and jumping to defense.
Edited to remove flambaitiness
