Overwatch-themed Lego set on pause amid Activision abuse allegations

Toy-maker is "reviewing" its wider partnership with the <em>Overwatch</em> publisher.

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[cleek]

ah the Pitfalls of dealing with other people.

 

[Kanator]

Activision is the Louis C K of corporations at this point. Unfortunately, I expect their story will have the same ending, where all the ostracism goes away when their peers realize they still make boatloads of money -_-.

 

[jhodge]

Activision is the Louis C K of corporations at this point. Unfortunately, I expect their story will have the same ending, where all the ostracism goes away when their peers realize they still make boatloads of money -_-.

Which in turn means realizing that most customers may care a little, but they don't care enough to give up on WoW/Overwatch/etc: https://www.pcgamesn.com/world-of-warcr ... count-2021

 

[ardent]

Good. Nobody should be involved with Blizzard at this point.

 

[ChefJeff789]

I mean, good I guess...? I stopped buying Activision games a long time ago, but sales numbers suggest I am one of the few... It amazes me how loud gamers can complain and how little they actually do about real problems.

 

[ardent]

Just abandon everything Activision produces and let thousands of people lose their jobs, it'll all work itself out no problem.

Considering Blizzard management has actively (illegally) campaigned to stop other, less shitty companies from "poaching" their key employees, they can go fuck themselves. None of the people leaving Blizzard are leaving the industry except by choice, and can get paid better (Blizzard was bottom 10% in pay under Kotick) and be treated like real human beings.

The company is irredeemable.

 

[dwrd]

Incoming rebrand in 3... 2... 1...

 

[theSeb]

I mean, good I guess...? I stopped buying Activision games a long time ago, but sales numbers suggest I am one of the few... It amazes me how loud gamers can complain and how little they actually do about real problems.

There is a likely chance that the ones complaining are not the same ones that keep playing.

 

[Fabermetrics]

As long as Diablo 4 is unscathed I don't care.

They had so fire their lead lootbox engineer so all of Diablo 4s mechanics are being hastily put together by the interns

 

[DiavoJinx]

GOOD.
Good on TLG for doing this.

 

[Uragan]

As long as Diablo 4 is unscathed I don't care.

I hope that, if you ever are harassed at work, people don't treat your situation with such a blasé attitude.

 

[Fabermetrics]

Just abandon everything Activision produces and let thousands of people lose their jobs, it'll all work itself out no problem.

"Wont anyone think of the employees?!"
Employee: We are being harassed, please help.
"No not you...."

 

[Coppercloud]

I mean, good I guess...? I stopped buying Activision games a long time ago, but sales numbers suggest I am one of the few... It amazes me how loud gamers can complain and how little they actually do about real problems.

In my youth I learned of the concept of "voting with your wallet". I've decided to embrace that in earnest. I've also stopped buying anything Activision (which stinks, I've got a lot of friends playing Diablo II right now). But since then I've been convinced that voting with your wallet is projecting someone else's problems onto consumers. It should not be our responsibility to make sure that companies and CEOs aren't assholes. This just shouldn't be factoring in.

I still won't be buying Activision/Blizard stuff, but there is a bigger problem here.

 

[ardent]

As long as Diablo 4 is unscathed I don't care.

They had so fire their lead lootbox engineer so all of Diablo 4s mechanics are being hastily put together by the interns

They could hire Anthem's loot designer.

(laughs in Anthem Schadenfreude)

 

[Deleted member 4603]

They are paying these idiot responders here entirely too much, methinks.

 

[MichaelLC]

all the sjw's on these boards are hilarious ... you don't want to purchase products from a company with ten thousand employees, which had a dozen or so do unlawful or immoral things?

Put up or shut up. Don't use anything not made by yourself, nor eat any food not grown in your own backyard -- after all somebody in the supply chain probably pressured a woman or a man into unwanted sex.

Hypocrites.

But what do I do if I'm kind of a shitty person? Like not raping employees bad, but still, not great.

 

[Urist]

all the sjw's on these boards are hilarious ... you don't want to purchase products from a company with ten thousand employees, which had a dozen or so do unlawful or immoral things?

Put up or shut up. Don't use anything not made by yourself, nor eat any food not grown in your own backyard -- after all somebody in the supply chain probably pressured a woman or a man into unwanted sex.

Hypocrites.

But what do I do if I'm kind of a shitty person? Like not raping employees bad, but still, not great.

Eh, I doubt anti-sjw people like OP could even handle gardening without assaulting anyone.

 

[Celery Man]

all the sjw's on these boards are hilarious ... you don't want to purchase products from a company with ten thousand employees, which had a dozen or so do unlawful or immoral things?

Put up or shut up. Don't use anything not made by yourself, nor eat any food not grown in your own backyard -- after all somebody in the supply chain probably pressured a woman or a man into unwanted sex.

Hypocrites.

Tell me you're a bigot without saying you're a bigot.

 

[Fabermetrics]

all the sjw's on these boards are hilarious ... you don't want to purchase products from a company with ten thousand employees, which had a dozen or so do unlawful or immoral things?

Put up or shut up. Don't use anything not made by yourself, nor eat any food not grown in your own backyard -- after all somebody in the supply chain probably pressured a woman or a man into unwanted sex.

Hypocrites.

"probably" != "known to have, and refuses to atone for"
But hey I get it. If you dont stand up for the sex pests, who would stand up for you?

 

[Uragan]

all the sjw's on these boards are hilarious ... you don't want to purchase products from a company with ten thousand employees, which had a dozen or so do unlawful or immoral things?

Put up or shut up. Don't use anything not made by yourself, nor eat any food not grown in your own backyard -- after all somebody in the supply chain probably pressured a woman or a man into unwanted sex.

Hypocrites.

What is it like to be an absolute asshole?

 

[ardent]

all the sjw's on these boards are hilarious ... you don't want to purchase products from a company with ten thousand employees, which had a dozen or so do unlawful or immoral things?

Put up or shut up. Don't use anything not made by yourself, nor eat any food not grown in your own backyard -- after all somebody in the supply chain probably pressured a woman or a man into unwanted sex.

Hypocrites.

When asked for a comment about the whole ABK problem during Christmas I responded to my father "At least I only killed people for money. I'm not like those animals. Pass the salt, please."

 

[2021Ars2021]

As long as Diablo 4 is unscathed I don't care.

They had so fire their lead lootbox engineer so all of Diablo 4s mechanics are being hastily put together by the interns

Its going to be Diablo III-2 but worse

 

[Celery Man]

Incoherent Rant Translation Key

[What the poster said] = [what the poster meant]

"PC culture" = I'm a bigot
"SJWs" = I'm a bigot
"wokeness" = I'm a bigot
"cancel culture has gone too far" = I'm a bigot
"I'm not [type of bigot], but..." = I'm a bigot

 

[Uragan]

Incoherent Rant Translation Key

"PC culture" = I'm a bigot
"SJWs" = I'm a bigot
"wokeness" = I'm a bigot
"cancel culture has gone too far" = I'm a bigot
"I'm not [type of bigot], but..." = I'm a bigot

So, what you're saying is, and this is just a guess... ready_load$,8,1 is a bigot?

 

[Scifigod]

They are paying these idiot responders here entirely too much, methinks.

It's also some of the usual suspects doing their performative edgelord shtick for free.

 

[fenris_uy]

They were releasing an Overwatch 2 themed set, before Overwatch 2 even getting an official release date? WTF?

 

[Celery Man]

I mean, good I guess...? I stopped buying Activision games a long time ago, but sales numbers suggest I am one of the few... It amazes me how loud gamers can complain and how little they actually do about real problems.

In my youth I learned of the concept of "voting with your wallet". I've decided to embrace that in earnest. I've also stopped buying anything Activision (which stinks, I've got a lot of friends playing Diablo II right now). But since then I've been convinced that voting with your wallet is projecting someone else's problems onto consumers. It should not be our responsibility to make sure that companies and CEOs aren't assholes. This just shouldn't be factoring in.

I still won't be buying Activision/Blizard stuff, but there is a bigger problem here.

Capitalism. Capitalism is the bigger problem here. Voting with your wallet (i.e. withholding capital) is one of the few mechanisms consumers have to enact change in these organizations. The "think of the poor employees you're hurting" narrative is designed to minimize or eliminate that mechanism.

 

[BigDXLT]

Don't quote the trolls please. Downvote, then block and move on.

Lego group didn't *have* to do this, but I'm glad they are. This has potential to be the single largest pressure point on this company yet. Licensing deals = $$$.

Until investors pressure major changes to upper management at this company, nothing will change. There is *no* reason Activision-Blizzard needs to be operated in this manner in this day and age, their response thus far has been pathetic. We aren't in the '90's anymore.

"Think of the poor employees" doesn't matter when they already fire them on a whim even when they are making profits.

I *want* to continue the lore and stories Blizzard have crafted. But I'm willing to wait for this company to get their shit together. If I miss out, or we simply never get a conclusion at all? Oh well... why should I lose sleep over it?

 

[Deleted member 388703]

Incoherent Rant Translation Key

"PC culture" = I'm a bigot
"SJWs" = I'm a bigot
"wokeness" = I'm a bigot
"cancel culture has gone too far" = I'm a bigot
"I'm not [type of bigot], but..." = I'm a bigot

So, what you're saying is, and this is just a guess... ready_load$,8,1 is a bigot?

gaballard isn't saying that, rl$ is.

 

[Deleted member 388703]

all the sjw's on these boards are hilarious ... you don't want to purchase products from a company with ten thousand employees, which had a dozen or so do unlawful or immoral things?

Put up or shut up. Don't use anything not made by yourself, nor eat any food not grown in your own backyard -- after all somebody in the supply chain probably pressured a woman or a man into unwanted sex.

Hypocrites.

What is it like to be an absolute asshole?

What's it like to be a racist? You're lumping 10,000 employees into the same bucket. You're a fuckwit.

[Projects facts not in evidence]

 

[Deleted member 4603]

Literally nobody said anything like what you are implying.

Seek fucking help.

 

[ardent]

wow the dumb is strong in here. I said "12 people out of 10,000 in a company did wrong, and therefore we shouldn't shame the rest of the 9,982"

Ars' reaction: "yes, we should. Just like we should hate all white people because some of them are racists."


You're pathetic children.

There's been a massive talent exodus at ABK. They paid below market wages trading on the prestige of their brand names as resume burnishers. That's over now. Their new model is "get hung up on because the pay scale is shit and the reputation is shit."

ABK engaged in some, at least by my understanding, illegal actions in an attempt to retain key personnel so they wouldn't lose several years of production (to no avail).

The average worker at ABK is going to find a job. It's going to take some time if they want to stay in game development, because the existing firms can't absorb everyone immediately. But they're all going to find an exit at some point. Which is fine.

Meanwhile ABK's release schedule looks like it was in a knife fight with Wolverine. Which is also good.

 

[sword_9mm]

As long as Diablo 4 is unscathed I don't care.

They had so fire their lead lootbox engineer so all of Diablo 4s mechanics are being hastily put together by the interns

Could RNJesus be any more stingy? We'll find out!