Our fave bounty hunter takes on Tatooine’s underworld in Book of Boba Fett trailer
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Really, it was Solo we have to thank for these great TV series from Disney? I liked Solo, but boy am I happy it flopped at the box office then!
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Cesario Rose
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The trailer is a little boring; it kind of looks like they took some stuff from the first episode or two and called it a trailer. I kind of feel they could have cut it down a little and called it a teaser instead. But I think it does a decent job at setting the stage for the series, and I'm pretty hype. I'm really hoping for a real life Cad Bane.
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They ain't milkin' nothin' homey. This is pure fan service, bar none. It's on Disney+ anyway not like they're after box office money.
Favreau is doing what JJ and Rian failed to do.
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I quite liked Solo as well, and was hoping for more, but if that is the price we had to pay. It’s a shame 8 hurt Solo’s chances.
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I can't put my finger on why - maybe it's Star Wars fatigue, the fact that Season 2 of Mando felt more and more forced towards the end, or just general apathy - but this series just...doesn't sound interesting. Boba Fett was always more interesting of a character to me when he was an active hunter; he always seemed a man of action. Having such an active role be subverted into Jabba 2.0 or running an underworld just sounds...meh.
Why not come up with an original character if you want to do Godfather in Star Wars instead of constantly falling back to the same ten or so characters, much like they did with The Star Wars Western aka Mandalorian S1? (rhetorical question, we all know the answer)
Why not come up with an original character if you want to do Godfather in Star Wars instead of constantly falling back to the same ten or so characters, much like they did with The Star Wars Western aka Mandalorian S1? (rhetorical question, we all know the answer)
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Looks good.
Looking forward to both this and Hawkeye.
Also, responding to the OP:
Good time to be a fan of the franchise. If you're not, there's LOT'S of other media out there.
Looking forward to both this and Hawkeye.
Also, responding to the OP:
https://www.theverge.com/2021/11/1/2275 ... -star-wars
Good time to be a fan of the franchise. If you're not, there's LOT'S of other media out there.
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Solo would have been better if they left out the Han Solo character.
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I was never a huge fan of Boba Fett, and the Ep 2 idea that he was the template for the Clone Troopers gave me an eye sprain from rolling them so hard, but I liked his appearance in The Mandalorian and I think this looks like a lot of fun.
Solo was terrible. Yeah, downvote me all you want, but it was awful. The only decent SW movie from the past several decades has been Rogue One. Fight me. lol
Solo was terrible. Yeah, downvote me all you want, but it was awful. The only decent SW movie from the past several decades has been Rogue One. Fight me. lol
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What you say when you know your opinion is wrong, but you just want to stir up an internet flamewar anyway! ;-)
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Ha! I wrote my post as you were writing yours! I didn't see your "fite me" until I posted mine.
But you're completely, totally, 100%, absolutely, clinically, verifiably wrong about Solo.
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I've loved all the star wars films - yes even Solo. Watch them all at the middle-of-the-night first showing on IMAX.
I watched the first few episodes of Mandalorian but somehow it just felt so claustrophobic - somehow the wall-of-video magic made my brain recognize the camera angles, tricks, shots, as making do with a cramped shooting studio. It didn't have the same grandeur that I've loved in the films. I gave up after three episodes.
Maybe the problem was also the lack of John Williams music?
I hope the new show will regain that sense of momentousness.
I watched the first few episodes of Mandalorian but somehow it just felt so claustrophobic - somehow the wall-of-video magic made my brain recognize the camera angles, tricks, shots, as making do with a cramped shooting studio. It didn't have the same grandeur that I've loved in the films. I gave up after three episodes.
Maybe the problem was also the lack of John Williams music?
I hope the new show will regain that sense of momentousness.
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The good thing about 2021/2022 is that lots of companies are competing for your eyeballs attention.
Ignore this and watch the programs you want to see more of. That's the best any of us can do.
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Or make it about...literally anyone other than Han Solo. The movie itself was not half bad, but as with all things Star Wars these days, it kept trying to tie back to the OT, which puts actors and writers in the unfortunate role of trying to act and write *to* a pre-existing arc versus creating a whole new thread of story in a pre-existing universe.
Here's a fun challenge - watch Solo, but pretend it's the origin story of some other bounty hunter; Dash Rendar if you really want to keep the Solo vibes. The movie is infinitely better when you disconnect the Solo name from it.
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Very true, and I agree. Maybe I'm just becoming jaded in middle-age-hood. I just personally find it a bit disheartening that the huge potential of the Star Wars universe is generally ignored for continued re-treading of story arcs and characters. Mando season 1 was such a breath of fresh air, but it seems it was more a short breeze than a hurricane of change.
All that said, that's just my opinion - I know plenty of folks who love the re-treads and there's nothing wrong with that.
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Woody Harrelson has become one of my favorite actors. I give you that. I thought Rogue One was better, absent the uncanny valley bits.
Pretend you didn't think K-2SO was awesome.
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Going by all the stuff they have in production, I think the audience Disney was looking for is telling them something quite different and, unfortunately, the product just isn't for you.
I'd bet you can find something else that works for you though.
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imagining the banter at Jabba’s palace
“What’s on the menu tonight?”
“Rancor jerky stew, pulled rancor sandwiches, dry-cured rancor steak.”
“god I feel like that’s all we've been eating for five years now"
“What’s on the menu tonight?”
“Rancor jerky stew, pulled rancor sandwiches, dry-cured rancor steak.”
“god I feel like that’s all we've been eating for five years now"
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This is making me feel kinda wistful. For a sizable portion of my preteen childhood I was massively into Star Wars in general and the Boba/Jango Fett characters in particular (this was in the prequel era). Me and my other SW loving friends would’ve been off-the-walls hyped for this kind of show. I’ll still probably check this out, especially if its comparable to the Mandalorian quality wise. It just evokes some weird nostalgia vibes too.
Also, I'm 100% in agreement that Solo was underrated and one of the better Disney Star Wars movies, more so than Rogue One. It suffered an unfair backlash thanks to it coming right off the back of the dumpster fire that was TLJ.
Also, I'm 100% in agreement that Solo was underrated and one of the better Disney Star Wars movies, more so than Rogue One. It suffered an unfair backlash thanks to it coming right off the back of the dumpster fire that was TLJ.
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With Rogue Squadron, scheduled for theatrical release in December of 2023, Patty Jenkins was told that she's free to tell the story she wants to tell with the caveat that Disney management wants this one to be more accessible to general audiences and non-fans.
She's said: "We're doing something original with great influence from the games and the books. There's a lot of things being acknowledged and understood about the greatness of all of those things, but yes, it's an original story..."
So there you go.
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Okay, but first I need to explain where I got my boots, my jacket, my holster, my blaster, my other blaster, my ship, and my best friend. So this is going to take bit.
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Ha! I wrote my post as you were writing yours! I didn't see your "fite me" until I posted mine.
But you're completely, totally, 100%, absolutely, clinically, verifiably wrong about Solo.
He was a plucky, incompetent protagonist who bumbled his way past hardened antagonists mostly through the actions of others, exhibiting growth in exactly one scene. They could have replaced the character with Anakin Skywalker from Episode 1 and replaced all of his lines with, "Now this is podracing!" and had the same movie.
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Unpopular opinion: I have never understood Boba Fett's popularity. He is the most overrated character in the OT, with regard to how much of a fan base he has versus what he actually did. Which was effectively nothing but posture and die* in a pretty unspectacular fashion.
* And of course since he is so popular, decades later, it was retconned so he didn't actually die.
* And of course since he is so popular, decades later, it was retconned so he didn't actually die.
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He was such a huge character because of the EU(expanded universe). Books and video games vastly expanded his story into something incredible. Of course, most of the EU became non-cannon due to Disney's purchase, so this is their way of using some of what already existed and making it into their "new cannon"
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Better movie, no. Not even close.
More Star Wars-y? Eh, maybe.
I will say that regardless of any other flaws the movie had, Donald Glover as Lando was an absolute treat.
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Loved Solo but hey if its the reason that we got The Mandalorian then I like it even more.
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Weird. I was going to say Solo was a fine movie, but somehow lacking in Star Wars-y feel.
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Okay, I can handle people having different opinions about movies but kids refusing free Legos? That’s just insane.
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If you like "Tragimas" (tragedy dramas), I'd agree with you.
But I think since that niche is fully filled by you (and maybe a few others), it's not as "likable" as other genres of films in general.
My issue with the entire Star Wars franchise is that it became a drama in the first place. The elements of levity and comedy which permeated the original movies utterly vanished over time. These days, it takes itself too seriously. That may be due to the audience being different or just marketing by whatever other metric is out there. But the moments of "comedy" in what they have these days is just too few and far between, not making any dents in the overall grimness of the stories. Rogue One being a major symptom of this change.
As the late Gold Squad pilot Jon "Dutch" Vander's last words were, they need "loosen up" from the almost anal-retentive grimdarkness of their stories.
Which leads me to my OTHER complaint about current Star Wars offerings: Predictability.
We already know that won't happen, don't we? Ruling through fear is far more visually rewarding than everyone being respected and respectful. In talking with my housemates about the movies, they both said that the latest 3 were basically rehashes of the original 3, only "the golden years" version. So they rehash the same themes and plots, follow the same tired story lines, and only vary in the details. While that's a perfectly valid way of doing movies and novels and such, it does lead to burnout and boredom.
I have to agree with Poster One. They're milking this shit. It's just last week's stew with added water and seasonings. And we all know where it will end (there is no happily ever after in Star Wars).
Obviously, this isn't to say that people DON'T like it, but I'm willing to bet most "original movie" fans of Star Wars aren't fans of this generation's version of that universe. What that says about this generations' idea of "entertainment" is probably best left unsaid.
Everyone is entitled to like what they want, and dislike what they want. I dislike everything that came after the first three movies. To ME, it took a very bad turn away from "entertaining", because I don't like grimdark shit. I've seen a lifetime's worth of that in real life. I don't want or need it in my entertainment.
We recently had a house discussion about our next streaming service choice. Disney+ and Discovery+ were up for nomination. Two of us wanted Discovery+, because we'd seen the Disney movies, and were burned out on Star Wars AND the MCU content (neither of which I watch anymore because to me at least, it's just the same shit each time with different faces and details).
If I get a hankering to watch Mary Poppins or The Sound of Music, well, when Disney comes around again then I'll watch that, and the older content. But I have about 1800 hours of content in Discovery+ I haven't watched before to chew through before that happens. And it's all blessedly free of Star Wars and MCU content.
As for fighting you on that, no. That would involve me trying to "prove" your opinion isn't valid to you. That's asinine. Watch what appeals to you. I watch what appeals to me. We just differ on what appeals to us, that's all. I can explain why it differs for me. A lot of folks "just know what they like" without reasoning it through, and that's fine. It's not like explanations for tastes in entertainment are required. That's just the way my mind works for me. But I would invite you to reason through your preferences as I generally do. It won't change them, but it might provide you with some insight as to why you have them.
I've always felt it's good to get to know yourself, if for no other reason than to explain the why's in one's live.
[Edit to add this Honest Trailer's video link, just because Rogue One SERIOUSLY needed some laughs.}
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"I don't like rancor!"
"Sshh, dear, don't cause a fuss. I'll have your rancor. I love it. I'm having rancor rancor rancor rancor rancor rancor rancor beaked beans rancor rancor rancor and rancor!"
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Sometimes I think these trolls just wished that nothing ever got made in the Starwars Universe beyond the original trilogy. Which is just so stupid...
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