Micro LED monitors connect like puzzle pieces in HP multi-monitor concept
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I really hope this comes to product development/release, or something like this. Due to some atypical vision issues, I use two large monitors to work so as to blow up the display size of the various applications & documents I work with (including the browser I am typing into right now). As my work quite often depends on referencing several documents in order to input data into an application, I love this as well. But there are sometimes issues, some of which are referenced in article. And this idea of multiple monitors working together seamlessly. Awesome!
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Well then you also don't have money or need for 3 snap together monitors!
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Modular resolution sizes! This will really shine in our Teams presentations when everyone has a custom resolution =)
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It's already gone to shit when people present in 21.5:9 or 32:9 when the vast majority of us are on 16:9.
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I hadn't thought of the custom resolution, but for work, this would be "shut up and take my money". the ability to change what is considered a "full screen" for apps would be OH SO WONDERFUL. I have four monitors, and it works ok with windows snap, but getting my chat programs to behave "full screen" while not actually 1/4 of my available screen real estate?! man, I'd love that.
oh well, doesn't look like it'll happen any time soon.
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I have a feeling 40+" 8K monitors go for more than $500. Or we'll be enjoying the screen area of 4 monitors at half the pixel density.
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HP publishes these papers in lieu of filing a patent; not to support filing a patent.
The general procedure is that an employee writes up an invention disclosure. The company decides they don't want to go through the expense of filing a patent but they also don't want someone else to file a patent on the technology.
Once that decision is made, HP publishes a public disclosure such as this one so that the tech is now public and well known and thus does not qualify for patent protection.
Essentially they're staking a claim on the tech and saying we developed it first so that others are dissuaded from attempting to patent it later.
Edit: And if someone does manage to get a patent on the tech and file a suit against HP, HP can use this paper to rebuff any claims in the patent by saying we invented it first, hence the name "Defensive Publications Series."
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You can control your resolution?
People have different resolutions?
What’s aspect ratio?
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(though all actually heard in online meetings)
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A 4k 40" monitor will have better pixel density than whatever screen you're using right now. They were $500 in 2017.
Actual facts and figures. My 4k "42.5" monitor at home, 103ppi. This 27" 1440 monitor at work, 109ppi. A 0.055% difference. Unless your multi-monitor set-up features 32" 4k monitors you're better off with one huge monitor.
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What a weird thing to publish.
These things have been on the market for decades. They're not getting a patent. The first one I saw was in the 1990s.
They're called "modular video walls." They're how digital billboards, those giant curved restaurant signs, those ridiculous command centers, and increasingly, how movie theaters are made.
Major vendors include ActiVU, Sharp NEC, LG, ViewSonic, Sony, Samsung, AlwaysBright, BarCo, PixelFlex, Daktronics, Avendor, Christie Digital, and Matrox.
In most major American cities, you can just walk into a Best Buy and buy these over the counter right now.
These things have been on the market for decades. They're not getting a patent. The first one I saw was in the 1990s.
They're called "modular video walls." They're how digital billboards, those giant curved restaurant signs, those ridiculous command centers, and increasingly, how movie theaters are made.
Major vendors include ActiVU, Sharp NEC, LG, ViewSonic, Sony, Samsung, AlwaysBright, BarCo, PixelFlex, Daktronics, Avendor, Christie Digital, and Matrox.
In most major American cities, you can just walk into a Best Buy and buy these over the counter right now.
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Multi monitor is not the same thing as having multiple windows open on a bigger screen.
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I call dibs on rectangular-ish modules that have a spherical surface profile (5-sided pyramid section {couldn't find a name for this}). I just know that everyone will want to snap together a "monitor" where you sit at the centre of a spherical display surface. Add some UV LEDs to the array and it can double as a tanning booth.
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This already exists. They just need to resolution to be high enough to be acceptable for sitting 3 feet in front of it.
View: https://youtu.be/M5mXkYDTIJk?si=oDltMvApHUePO2Ha&t=293
View: https://youtu.be/M5mXkYDTIJk?si=oDltMvApHUePO2Ha&t=293
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Just a couple weeks ago in a meeting, I watched a demo by a talented developer, showing his software running in a window. Problem was, his utility app runs in like an 800 x 600 window, but he was sharing his entire high resolution ultrawide monitor, but on our screens it was surrounded by additional chat and attendee windows and toolbars.
So what we saw was like a little business card floating in a sea of unused gray ultra wide desktop, subject to video conferencing compression (i.e. all blocky)...we couldn't see what the heck he was demoing.
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This, I think, pretty much kills the idea for anything except large-scale presentations where fine details don't matter. Trying to read text on a monitor-sized screen with seams in the middle of it would drive me nuts.
It's not a horrible idea. It's just going to have niche uses.
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Egads... yes. I wish windows snap was treated like a virtual monitor/desktop so that screensharing could be easily "per snap area" as if it we were sharing a monitor. Maybe there is an idea for the Powertoys folks...
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This is likely why they published a paper publicly disclosing the tech rather than filed for a patent on it.
Also, I'm pretty sure I've never seen anything Barco or Christie for sale at Best Buy.
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Someone should have told that dev to share only the app, not the whole screen. I see that happen with the less experienced, and they are quite happy when they learn how to share only the app.
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I have a crappy little $70 15.6" HD LCD plugged into my computer just for presentations. Sharing that screen and moving what I'm doing over there usually results in people being able to see my presentation without them having to adjust things on their end. Or requiring me to up font sizes or increase zoom on my 32" UHD monitor.
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Where do i sign up to get one. Currently running a 40” 2k5k monitor and 2x27” . Would love to custom build up my monitor setup, really need more vertical resolution but haven‘t found anything useful.
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This seems like the sort of thing that would be really neat in an ideal world; but does not seem likely to actually get implemented well enough(at least not for the remotely cost-sensitive) to beat a combination of just buying bigger displays that save by omitting the chassis-to-chassis power and data interconnects and buying monitors with unobtrusive bezels and off-brand ergotron arms.
There are certainly cases(say you want a very color-accurate panel for certain photo work and a big cheap panel for all your toolbars; and an e-ink panel for email and text work) where there's no "just buy a bigger monitor" answer because they don't make panels that do all of those things in one. However, you'd only be able to cater to such cases if HP decided to make all those distinct types of panel in the same compatible modular system; or managed to coax sufficient 3rd parties to do so down to the sub-mm tolerances you'd need to make the joints seamless.
That seems...less likely; with the more likely outcome being comparatively limited options and high prices for incremental improvements over the inelegant-but-functional approach of just slapping thin bezel monitors next to one another and doing a little cable management.
There are certainly cases(say you want a very color-accurate panel for certain photo work and a big cheap panel for all your toolbars; and an e-ink panel for email and text work) where there's no "just buy a bigger monitor" answer because they don't make panels that do all of those things in one. However, you'd only be able to cater to such cases if HP decided to make all those distinct types of panel in the same compatible modular system; or managed to coax sufficient 3rd parties to do so down to the sub-mm tolerances you'd need to make the joints seamless.
That seems...less likely; with the more likely outcome being comparatively limited options and high prices for incremental improvements over the inelegant-but-functional approach of just slapping thin bezel monitors next to one another and doing a little cable management.
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Currently running three monitors. For work, I don't care about bezels between them. I use different monitors for different tasks.
I do a lot of work over Zoom, and I need to be able to share my screen (usually more than one application at a a time, like an editor/IDE and a browser/application that shows the results). I also need to be able to see the people I'm talking to, and the meeting chat. (On a separate screen because I need as much real estate as I can get to make the documents/code I'm sharing big enough to be legible.) And I have things like calendars and clocks and emails and chat that I need to see alerts from and/or be able to read, but not share over Zoom. Plus I need to be able to take notes and otherwise do work on a non-shared screen, without blocking my view of any of the above.
It would be kind of nice to have one giant, seamless screen (eg. for watching movies or playing games), but I would get much less work done. AFAIK no zoom-like app has the option of sharing all apps withing a designated area of real estate.
Hm... I just had an idea: If I spin up a VM and access it via some kind of remote desktop app, that remote desktop counts as just one "application" for Zoom's screen-sharing purposes, right? So I could have the VM running in a window on some part of my (hypothetical) giant screen, and share just that window over Zoom, while within that window I have several apps running! Do any Arsians actually do this?
I do a lot of work over Zoom, and I need to be able to share my screen (usually more than one application at a a time, like an editor/IDE and a browser/application that shows the results). I also need to be able to see the people I'm talking to, and the meeting chat. (On a separate screen because I need as much real estate as I can get to make the documents/code I'm sharing big enough to be legible.) And I have things like calendars and clocks and emails and chat that I need to see alerts from and/or be able to read, but not share over Zoom. Plus I need to be able to take notes and otherwise do work on a non-shared screen, without blocking my view of any of the above.
It would be kind of nice to have one giant, seamless screen (eg. for watching movies or playing games), but I would get much less work done. AFAIK no zoom-like app has the option of sharing all apps withing a designated area of real estate.
Hm... I just had an idea: If I spin up a VM and access it via some kind of remote desktop app, that remote desktop counts as just one "application" for Zoom's screen-sharing purposes, right? So I could have the VM running in a window on some part of my (hypothetical) giant screen, and share just that window over Zoom, while within that window I have several apps running! Do any Arsians actually do this?
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ya that would actually be pretty cool. Color grading does have pretty stringent requirements, and buying huge color accurate screens is prohibitively expensive.
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I've shared VNC sessions running on Linux machines on Teams/Webex/Zoom calls hosted on Windows if that counts.
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Tiling is a thing. You don't need two monitors to have two applications open side-by-side.
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Translation for those who don't know the game: they are using micro LED and absence of a backlight as part of a narrowing of claims, so they can meet the novelty requirement on their patent filings. It's just an excuse momd you. Oled and plasma don't use backloghts either. But their liars, I mean lawyers, need something to be able to justify it as new and completely totally non-obvious. That's how the game is played. I cry sometimes.
Doh: ktmglen is correct. I missed that this was a defensive disclosure. I saw the shit hp name and leading phrase in the article and jumped to a conclusion. HP still sucks though.
Doh: ktmglen is correct. I missed that this was a defensive disclosure. I saw the shit hp name and leading phrase in the article and jumped to a conclusion. HP still sucks though.
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With multiple monitors I tune the bezels out OK, but the thing that this concept would address is keeping them perfectly physically aligned together.
With a variety of monitor arms I've tried a few cobbled solutions, but am yet to come up with something reliable - despite having pairs of identical monitors.
I've always thought it would be so easy for the manufacturer to design in some sort of rebate+clip system for this...
With a variety of monitor arms I've tried a few cobbled solutions, but am yet to come up with something reliable - despite having pairs of identical monitors.
I've always thought it would be so easy for the manufacturer to design in some sort of rebate+clip system for this...
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My multi-monitor set-up at home features 27" 4k monitors, so that's 174ppi. My multi-monitor set-up while traveling features 15" 2k monitors, so that's 147ppi. Thanks for playing.
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There is a utility specifically for this:
https://www.microsoft.com/store/productId/9N4066W2R5Q4?ocid=pdpsharealso on Github:
https://github.com/tom-englert/RegionToShare
Youtube video demoing this:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WVY-mFPFNI
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With multiple monitors, I can rotate them to all point at me, or I could rotate them to point towards someone else, or for me to use while elsewhere in the room.
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