A crowd-pleasing, American-made SUV follows Mercedes' first two electric sedans.
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Mercedes-Benz’s next EV is this 7-seater EQS SUV
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Exciting to see more EV options for family haulers especially with that kind of range. I’m getting a bit of a Honda vibe from the front grill.
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Am I missing something. Shouldn't there be a different range estimate for the two configurations. With the same battery pack, I assume the two-motor configuration will have less range than the single motor.
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Oh lord, won't you give me, a Mercedes Benz!
Seriously tho, this looks really nice, I wish I could afford it!
Seriously tho, this looks really nice, I wish I could afford it!
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Eh. This is designed and built for people who expect a certain level of features and refinement, at a given price point. Efficiency isn't really the point here, at all.
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It doesn’t have an official figure for either version yet. So the briefing materials just give the “up to 600km” number.
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1. People vote with their wallets for screens and extra tech.
2. When you're already using electricity to move a massive vehicle. Powering some LED screens is a rounding error in terms of range.
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You realize that switching to dials (which BTW would require power to run and D/A converters since there's no way this car's bus isn't entirely digital) would POSSIBLY get you like 0.0001 extra miles. The amount required for modern efficient displays is absolutely trivial compared the energy required to move physical mass.
Just grunt and say you don't like screens.
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That is WLTP in the article above
600km = 372.82 miles (WLTP)
Using 1.12 as the average
332 miles (EPA)
https://insideevs.com/features/343231/h ... wltp-nedc/
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Forgot to add, range may be more or may be less at around 310 or so depending on
Battery size
Weight
Aero
I think the car will nudge past the 300m mark as that seems to be the current baseline these days
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The cockpit looks cramped despite it is a big car. I wonder if it feels cramped?
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This is exciting!
Look at the shape, the ground clearance (181 mm) and the overall dimensions (L 5125 mm, W 1959 mm, H 1718 mm). It's squarely in the "Marketing insists we call it an SUV, but it's quite close to being a small-ish AWD minivan with door hinges instead of sliders" category. That's a group that tends to sell rather well in North America.
The EV options for families with more than two kids have been severely limited, to date. I'm curious how this will handle three child seats abreast. Not that there's much overlap between the "has three little kids" demographic and the "can afford a new Mercedes" demographic, but surprisingly few vehicles are actually roomy enough to fit multiple child seats of the bulky modern design.
I am hearing rumours (unconfirmed) of a 4000 lb towing capacity, which would make it competitive with many gas-burning seven-seat crossover/SUVs on that front. A >3500 lb trailer rating means that you can tow a proper full-size utility or dump trailer on those rare occasions when you need to move lumber, dirt, etc. and therefore the vehicle itself doesn't need to be big enough to carry that stuff.
It really does look like a good do-everything family luxury car, at least if you're in the group that can afford it.
Look at the shape, the ground clearance (181 mm) and the overall dimensions (L 5125 mm, W 1959 mm, H 1718 mm). It's squarely in the "Marketing insists we call it an SUV, but it's quite close to being a small-ish AWD minivan with door hinges instead of sliders" category. That's a group that tends to sell rather well in North America.
The EV options for families with more than two kids have been severely limited, to date. I'm curious how this will handle three child seats abreast. Not that there's much overlap between the "has three little kids" demographic and the "can afford a new Mercedes" demographic, but surprisingly few vehicles are actually roomy enough to fit multiple child seats of the bulky modern design.
I am hearing rumours (unconfirmed) of a 4000 lb towing capacity, which would make it competitive with many gas-burning seven-seat crossover/SUVs on that front. A >3500 lb trailer rating means that you can tow a proper full-size utility or dump trailer on those rare occasions when you need to move lumber, dirt, etc. and therefore the vehicle itself doesn't need to be big enough to carry that stuff.
It really does look like a good do-everything family luxury car, at least if you're in the group that can afford it.
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Congratulations, you have identified the underlying flaw with basically every three-row SUV. The third row eats up the cargo space when you put people there.
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The amount of power required to run a modern display, even a very large one, is so negligible it barely needs to be considered. It would affect estimated range by a mile or less per charge.
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The 373 (other articles say 380 or 370 so all over the map) is the dual motor config. The single motor version has 410 mile WLTP range at least according so some articles. However I would take all range numbers with a grain of salt because I don't believe the WLTP numbers are official yet. That is just my take but the wording on some articles and press releases seems to indicate that ("around xxxx" or "at least xxxx").
EPA range historically is 10% to 15% lower than WLTP but it should still be solidly mid 300s even in dual motor config.
Now the big question is how much is this much BEV going to cost?
On edit: some articles actually mention there may be 3 trims (450, 450 MATIC, 580 MATIC) ??? It seems a bit more vagueness than your normal locked down press-release.
https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/mercedes/ ... iles-range
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Because for most three-row SUVs, the third row is a pinch-hitter - a little extra flexibility for an unexpected kid's friend who needs a ride home, getting everybody to the restaurant when family is in town, that kind of thing. And when you don't need that seating, it's a big cargo area for all your crap or big dogs or whatever. I suppose you can use them regularly, and most have enough space to be relatively comfortable, but the idea is not "seven and all their gear."
There are crossbar solutions for almost every variety of roof. If you want to mount a box on this, or a sedan, Yakima and Thule have a kit that will work.
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So is the ... "replacement" for the GLS? Or the GLE?
(I should have added... it looks pretty small to be the next GLS, no?)
(I should have added... it looks pretty small to be the next GLS, no?)
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Well, it's called the EQS, so the GLS. It's part of the S-class range. The EQE SUV will be coming out later this year.
(Pity they went with the EQ branding, as it will deprive us of "the e-GLE has landed" puns. Or save us from them, depending on your sense of humor. We may be able to EQE some dad jokes out of the current nomenclature, however....)
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Also, speaking from experience: While skis can slide under the bench seats of some (not all) minivans, bulky gear like snowboards, bikes, kayaks, etc. will only fit in an SUV or minivan, even a big one like a Suburban or Grand Caravan, if you fold down the 3rd row and sometimes even the 2nd row.
If you're carrying that stuff and people at the same time, you either use a trailer, or a hitch-mount carrier, or you add an aftermarket roof rack. They're not going to fit a roof rack to an EV SUV by default, because it adds drag and 90% of people will never use it.
If you want 6-foot-long stuff, suitcases, and 5 adults to fit inside, the geometry all but forces you to go with a commercial van like a Ford Transit or Mercedes Sprinter.
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Also, any EV is going to need to display system status, range estimates, and ideally navigate you to the nearest charging point, so some kind of display is going to be needed. Any modern luxury car - hell, most midrange cars - have enough integration with GPS, onboard systems, and mobile devices that screens are basically necessary.
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Yep:
a zillion years ago when we bought our baby hauler, I cross shopped the Mazda minivan available at the time against Sienna/Odyssey The mazda had like six or eight inches between the back row and the closed rear door. The Sienna and Odyssey both had room for three hockey bags at least of cargo with the 3rd row in use. We went with the Ody.
(note: "hockey bag" is a standardized Canadian volumetric measurement, and really should have an SI equivalent
). (think large duffel bag capable of hauling a body now that I'm not hauling 3 kids, I'd love this Merc. but without any third row at all....
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Yeah I would prefer this without the third row as an option but since you didn't mention it I guess that isn't possible. I know you can fold it down but that is a lot of cost and weight for something I have never needed. Plus fold down third rows are never as nice for cargo as just a dedicated cargo space.
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I saw a Mercedes Sprinter 'E' today
https://www.mercedes-benz.co.uk/vans/en ... -panel-van
Obviously with a range of 82-95 miles it is not going to work for interstate trombone sales, but for urban deliveries, it seemed to be coping perfectly well...
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Another day, another SUV...sigh
I am resigned to the fact that modern cars just aren't for me
I am resigned to the fact that modern cars just aren't for me
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Now I'm curious, why didn't subscribe to ars premium? Or already did but with a different account?
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99% of the entire car market isn't for you, or me, or any individual car buyer. What could possibly be the point of saying this? Is there a point to me saying this about a fullsize pickup, or a compact hatch, neither of which I have no intent to buy?
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A couple things:
1%ers don't drive themselves. Anywhere. They have a chauffer.
The ones who do don't drive Mercedes. They're driving Bentleys, Lucids, etc. Totally different ballpark.
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I was just lamenting that modern roads are not built for me, either. I have speed bumps, crappy road surfaces and bad steep driveways/parking lots to navigate here in DC suburbs.
Amazingly my little scion xD is tall enough/short enough to not get beat up too bad in the muffler area.
I also chuckle at all the trucks/Wranglers slowing down excessively for speed bumps in my town. Like, what is the point then?
Anyway, I don't like it either, but SUVs are kind of practical in the US. YMMV, literally.
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I'd be more worried about too much light from those screens at night than their power consumption. Hopefully they have a "dark mode" that they actually tested well.
(and that the interface might be crap, but that's hard to tell without driving)
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They've been down this road before...it didn't last.
(The "MPV" link in the article sends you to minivan in English Wikipedia)
On a related note, I am glad to see that Chrysler revived the "Pacifica" nameplate for their van offerings. Always thought that was clever, if a bit on-the-nose.
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It might be an improvement over the "mood lighting".
Sat in a friends benz & the a/c vents were pulsing a different color ....why do you need that ?
Depending on the panel/refresh rate they can implement true-tone (apple) or copy existing car makers (Tesla/Ford) & simply iterate on that
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