Legendary Star Wars concept artist Ralph McQuarrie passes away at 82

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Ralph McQuarrie, best known as the conceptual artist who brought the world of Star Wars to visual life, passed away on March 3, 2012. He was 82 years old.

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I'm a bit of a Star Wars figure collector, nothing outrageous, but it's a hobby. These are my figures dedicated to Ralph's concepts:

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(Actually one of those isn't based on his concept art, but is actually based on the man himself (middle-right in front of Darth Vader). He had brief screen time on Hoth as General McQuarrie. :)


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The Kotobukiya vinyl model kit that helped spread the notion that one of the figures was Luke Skywalker. Great sculpt though.
 
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Boskone":345k1du0 said:
I gotta be honest...I think Ralph McQuarrie may be more reponsible for Star Wars being the phenomenon that it is that Lucas. Most of the art and design for the movies is superb.

I agree. I wrote an article making a very similar point, that McQuarrie and Williams had as much to do with the success of Star Wars as Lucas.

http://slackerheroes.com/jj/2012/03/03/ ... mcquarrie/
 
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enderandrew":1jimoy5f said:
I agree. I wrote an article making a very similar point, that McQuarrie and Williams had as much to do with the success of Star Wars as Lucas.
Good post, I agree with it.

I think Lucas has been somewhat unfairly dumped on by geeks. Understandably in a lot of cases, but he still had the vision and wherewithal to pull off a pretty good trick. There's no question in my mind however that people like Ralph made it the truly special thing that embedded itself in the consciousness of so many.
 
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Aurich":3bl1dxvr said:
enderandrew":3bl1dxvr said:
I agree. I wrote an article making a very similar point, that McQuarrie and Williams had as much to do with the success of Star Wars as Lucas.
Good post, I agree with it.

I think Lucas has been somewhat unfairly dumped on by geeks. Understandably in a lot of cases, but he still had the vision and wherewithal to pull off a pretty good trick. There's no question in my mind however that people like Ralph made it the truly special thing that embedded itself in the consciousness of so many.

He did have a great idea, and just as important, at the time he had a bunch of really talented people around him who were able to contribute and who he listened to. Skip ahead to the prequel trilogy, and check out some of the behind the scenes pre-production footage where George starts throwing out bad ideas and the people around him just get a sickly look on their faces, as they know it's terrible but they don't dare contradict him.
 
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Weird I was just reading about him today in "The Making of Star Wars" book by J.W. Rinzler (must buy for any star wars fan, btw. Get the hardcover).
His sketches of Darth Vader are incredible, and John Barry's execution of his ideas were phenomenal (he unfortunately died two weeks into filming Empire).

Lucas does get a bad rap and as much as I despised the prequels, I gotta give it up to Lucas for his vision. Apocalypse Now was also his idea btw.
He also signed my DVD box set (Dear Craig, May the Force be with you!) set too so I can't be too angry with him ;)

Rest in peace Ralph, The force will be with you... always...

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superthorp":2qzh9hg3 said:
Lucas does get a bad rap and as much as I despised the prequels, I gotta give it up to Lucas for his vision. Apocalypse Now was also his idea btw.

This is true. However, it is also true that he wanted to do it as a filmed in California black comedy. So, he gets about 1% of the credit for the masterpiece that Apocalypse Now ended up being.
 
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Good night, Ralph, we will remember you in our dreams, which you still inspire today.

Aurich":1uvc1zz7 said:
I think Lucas has been somewhat unfairly dumped on by geeks.
He really is. Simply making a bad movie should not result in being branded as a "rapist of childhoods." No one ever said the bad Star Trek or James Bond movies destroyed those franchises, but when Lucas made some bad ones, the reaction was irrational and childish.

And Revenge of the Sith was a better film than Return of the Jedi, a terrible film we accepted as kids but make no sense.

Hey guys, let's abandon our super-important military mission and go look for my girlfriend in the forest! Let's dress up in fatigues while we're at it, but drag along a glowing golden robot which speaks thousands of languages, which is always handy in a mission to blow bunkers up. Sheesh, what crap.
 
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Kevin McKenna":2xu94u26 said:
Good night, Ralph, we will remember you in our dreams, which you still inspire today.

Aurich":2xu94u26 said:
I think Lucas has been somewhat unfairly dumped on by geeks.
He really is. Simply making a bad movie should not result in being branded as a "rapist of childhoods." No one ever said the bad Star Trek or James Bond movies destroyed those franchises, but when Lucas made some bad ones, the reaction was irrational and childish.

A bad Bond usually does not make all other previous Bonds worse.
A bad Trek also usually does not make any previous installments moot (ST:Generations and JJ's Trek notwithstanding...)

George not only started "explaining" what needed no explanation (midi-chlorians), bored people to death with trade negotiations and Congress minutiae, but he proceeded to retcon the originals, notably adding a "Nooo" to rhyme with another one that had been met with general derision, and blowing the whole "Vader redemption" arc by making Hayden (Anakin) appear next to Obi-Wan and Yoda instead of David Prowse (Vader).

Good thing Ralph McQuarrie had nothing to do with it...
 
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Bad Monkey!":352ev44z said:
superthorp":352ev44z said:
Lucas does get a bad rap and as much as I despised the prequels, I gotta give it up to Lucas for his vision. Apocalypse Now was also his idea btw.

This is true. However, it is also true that he wanted to do it as a filmed in California black comedy. So, he gets about 1% of the credit for the masterpiece that Apocalypse Now ended up being.

What are you guys talking about its a nearly direct adaptation of "The heart of darkness" by Joseph Conrad. Was it just his idea to have a modern adaptation? I can't really say that's noteworthy in itself. The execution on the idea was brilliant though.
 
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DrStrangelove":2hx58hee said:
Bad Monkey!":2hx58hee said:
superthorp":2hx58hee said:
Lucas does get a bad rap and as much as I despised the prequels, I gotta give it up to Lucas for his vision. Apocalypse Now was also his idea btw.

This is true. However, it is also true that he wanted to do it as a filmed in California black comedy. So, he gets about 1% of the credit for the masterpiece that Apocalypse Now ended up being.

What are you guys talking about its a nearly direct adaptation of "The heart of darkness" by Joseph Conrad. Was it just his idea to have a modern adaptation? I can't really say that's noteworthy in itself. The execution on the idea was brilliant though.

If I recall correctly, Lucas was the one that originally solicited the script for a "Heart of Darkness in Vietnam", and had made it as far as location scouting in California, when the project got bogged down by the studio. Lucas decided to work on Star Wars instead, and handed Apocalypse Now off to his buddy Coppola. The rest is history.
 
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Aurich":jt18qw4p said:
I think Lucas has been somewhat unfairly dumped on by geeks.
Kevin McKenna":jt18qw4p said:
He really is. Simply making a bad movie should not result in being branded as a "rapist of childhoods." No one ever said the bad Star Trek or James Bond movies destroyed those franchises, but when Lucas made some bad ones, the reaction was irrational and childish.
tigas":jt18qw4p said:
George not only started "explaining" what needed no explanation (midi-chlorians), bored people to death with trade negotiations and Congress minutiae, but he proceeded to retcon the originals, notably adding a "Nooo" to rhyme with another one that had been met with general derision, and blowing the whole "Vader redemption" arc by making Hayden (Anakin) appear next to Obi-Wan and Yoda instead of David Prowse (Vader).
And here was some of that childishness I mentioned.

There are lots of legitimate complaints about the SW prequels: wooden acting, terrible dialog, choppy editing. And then there are complaints like yours, which are unworthy of serious regard. But I will speak to them...

1. The Force explains why Jedi have powers like telekinesis and mind control. Midichlorians explain why some people can become Jedi and most people cannot, why Force potential can be inherited, why some races like Watto and Jabba can't be controlled, and why Vader is so much weaker after fighting Obi-Wan. Why is the first explanation good but the second explanation bad? And don't tell me midichlorians destroy the mystical nature of the Force. The Force is an *energy field* and not a supernatural thing. I can't stand listening to people whine about midichlorians, it's such a stupid thing to complain about.
2. Trade talks and Senate hearings are dull, but they do not harm the entire franchise.
3. Every SW film has a "Noooooo!" moment. Every single one. This is not a serious complaint.
4. Puting Hayden in RofJ was a dumb move, but it does not destroy the entire redemption arc.
 
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He really is. Simply making a bad movie should not result in being branded as a "rapist of childhoods." No one ever said the bad Star Trek or James Bond movies destroyed those franchises, but when Lucas made some bad ones, the reaction was irrational and childish.

And Revenge of the Sith was a better film than Return of the Jedi, a terrible film we accepted as kids but make no sense.

I could forgive Lucas for making terrible movies if he didn't also go back and muck up good movies from the past. Han shot first goddammit!
 
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Bad Monkey!":1ms0ubuo said:
superthorp":1ms0ubuo said:
Lucas does get a bad rap and as much as I despised the prequels, I gotta give it up to Lucas for his vision. Apocalypse Now was also his idea btw.

This is true. However, it is also true that he wanted to do it as a filmed in California black comedy. So, he gets about 1% of the credit for the masterpiece that Apocalypse Now ended up being.

We can give Joseph Conrad a little credit too, no?

Although being able to blame Lucas for thinking the original plot didn't have enough pizzaz and sprinkling magic vietnam spooky sauce all over it gives me some comfort.

Can't we just give the guy an island and some prisoners to rule over somewhere?

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Kevin McKenna":fx3vb86q said:
There are lots of legitimate complaints about the SW prequels: wooden acting, terrible dialog, choppy editing.

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4. Puting Hayden in RofJ was a dumb move, but it does not destroy the entire redemption arc.

That is not part of the prequels. It is, however, an example of meddling in earlier movies and making them worse. If he would just release the original theatrical edits I would stop bitching. Those laserdisc transfers look shitty on my HDTV, but not nearly as bad as CGI Sy Snootles.

The theatrical release had timeless special effects. The CGI in the remakes looks incredibly dated and goofy in a way that is very off-putting, like a Disney Channel direct-to-video release.
 
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sporkme":2srqri64 said:
Bad Monkey!":2srqri64 said:
superthorp":2srqri64 said:
Lucas does get a bad rap and as much as I despised the prequels, I gotta give it up to Lucas for his vision. Apocalypse Now was also his idea btw.

This is true. However, it is also true that he wanted to do it as a filmed in California black comedy. So, he gets about 1% of the credit for the masterpiece that Apocalypse Now ended up being.

We can give Joseph Conrad a little credit too, no?

Of course he does. But Apocalypse Now, while being based on "Heart of Darkness", is different enough and significant enough that I think it can properly stand on its own and on equal terms to the novella. And while Lucas gets credit for the germ of the idea that became that movie, Coppola gets the lion's share for how it came out. And goddamn, whatever drugs Coppola was on in the 70s they need to start selling that shit again, because the guy was utterly untouchable in his abilities as a filmmaker then.

Although being able to blame Lucas for thinking the original plot didn't have enough pizzaz and sprinkling magic vietnam spooky sauce all over it gives me some comfort.

Bite your tongue. That movie is about 100 different kinds of concentrated awesome, and I think very little of whatever Lucas had in mind for it besides the setting ever made it into the finished product. Even Kilgore's soliloquy on the smell of napalm had more subtlety and meaning in it than all of the Star Wars prequels put together.
 
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Kevin McKenna":ku45kxtc said:
3. Every SW film has a "Noooooo!" moment. Every single one. This is not a serious complaint.

ROTJ didn't, until Lucas meddled with it. That was something that gave that made that scene work, with Vader silently watching the Emperor electrocuting his son to death, looking from Palpatine, to Luke, and back to Palpatine, and then suddenly and just as silently grabbing Palpatine to throw him over the edge. You could almost hear his thoughts, for all of the fact that he never says a word. And of all the "noooo!"s Lucas could have used, he had to recycle that laughable outburst from the end of ROTS.

4. Puting Hayden in RofJ was a dumb move, but it does not destroy the entire redemption arc.

Yes it does. It basically asserts that by his one good deed, "Vader" and everything he ever was never happened.
 
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Come on guys, show some goddamn class. This thread is to honour Ralph McQuarrie who provided so much of the original look and design of the Star Wars universe, not to bitch about Lucas which has been done to death elsewhere or sidetrack on Apocalypse Fucking Now!

Rest in Peace Ralph, I hope you get to pull a Gundark's ear off in Heaven pal. I'll be pouring out a little for you tonight.
 
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Bad Monkey!":2me4ux9o said:
DrStrangelove":2me4ux9o said:
Bad Monkey!":2me4ux9o said:
superthorp":2me4ux9o said:
Lucas does get a bad rap and as much as I despised the prequels, I gotta give it up to Lucas for his vision. Apocalypse Now was also his idea btw.

This is true. However, it is also true that he wanted to do it as a filmed in California black comedy. So, he gets about 1% of the credit for the masterpiece that Apocalypse Now ended up being.

What are you guys talking about its a nearly direct adaptation of "The heart of darkness" by Joseph Conrad. Was it just his idea to have a modern adaptation? I can't really say that's noteworthy in itself. The execution on the idea was brilliant though.

If I recall correctly, Lucas was the one that originally solicited the script for a "Heart of Darkness in Vietnam", and had made it as far as location scouting in California, when the project got bogged down by the studio. Lucas decided to work on Star Wars instead, and handed Apocalypse Now off to his buddy Coppola. The rest is history.

Actually he wanted Apocalypse Now to be a doc style "Dr. Strangelove in Vietnam ", and in 1972, during the post-production of American Graffiti, sent Gary Kurtz (His producer/collaborator on Star Wars) to the Phillipines and Hong Kong to scout for 2 months. American Graffiti hadn't been released yet so, without any clout to speak of, and "Universal, like UA before it, was confused by and pessimistic about the prospects of American Graffiti", and with the Vietnam War being too controversial, Lucas basically came to grips with his situation:

"I was in debt. I needed a job badly, and I didn't know what was going to happen with Graffiti, so I started to work on Star Wars rather than continue with Apocalypse Now. I had worked on it for about for about four years and I had very strong feelings about it. ... Everybody had that script at least one, and the major studios had had it twice. I think everybody was just afraid of the Vietnam War and they were afraid that it was going to cost more than we thought it was going to cost, and nobody wanted to go near it.  So I figured, hay the heck, I've got to do something. I'll start developing Star Wars."

Remember that Coppola and Lucas started American Zoetrope together and collaborated on many things, (although because of his universally loved film THX 1138, he almost put them out of business). When the time came to make Apocolypse Now and Coppola, on the heels of Godfather II, decided he wanted to finance movies himself and came to Lucas saying "let's do this movie". Lucas, although putting four years into Apocolypse, decided to pass it off to Coppola.

Interesting point here:
"Part of my decision was based on the amount of fan mail I had gotten from kids (about American Graffiti); I seemed to have struck a chord with kids; I had something they were missing. After the 1960s, it was the end of the protest movement and the whole phenomenon. The drugs were really getting bad, kids were dying, and there was nothing left to protest. But Graffiti just said, ‘get into your car and go chase girls, that's all you have to do'. ... I also realized that, whereas THX has a very pessimistic point of view,  American Graffiti said essentially that were all very good. Apocalypse Now was very much like THX and Star Wars was very much like American Graffiti, so I thought it'd be more beneficial to kids... When I mentioned to kids, like Francis's sons who were eleven and eight, that I was doing a space film, they went crazy. In a way I was using Francis's kids as models, because I'm around them the most. They're the ones who I talked to about the story. I know what they like."

And thus, Jar Jar Binks was born...
 
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Jurrasic":1tiaccqa said:
Come on guys, show some goddamn class. This thread is to honour Ralph McQuarrie who provided so much of the original look and design of the Star Wars universe, not to bitch about Lucas which has been done to death elsewhere or sidetrack on Apocalypse Fucking Now!

Rest in Peace Ralph, I hope you get to pull a Gundark's ear off in Heaven pal. I'll be pouring out a little for you tonight.

Fair enough. I apologize for participating in any off topic discussion.

RIP McQuarrie.
 
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Bad Monkey!":pmwplocx said:
Kevin McKenna":pmwplocx said:
3. Every SW film has a "Noooooo!" moment. Every single one. This is not a serious complaint.

ROTJ didn't, until Lucas meddled with it.
RotJ did have a "no" moment: when Vader threatens to turn Leia to the dark side, Luke yells "No!" and attacks him. So the Blu-Ray versions now have two "no" moments.
 
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I'm sorry to hear this. I bought the portfolios of his concept art (all the pictures in this article are included, in lovely large card prints) when I was going through a teenage StarWars obsession and they have given the Star Wars arena a mythical depth that the films hint at but only really touch in the original and The Empire Strikes Back.

My love of Science Fiction literature has as much to do with the farness of paperback cover art from the fifties, sixties and seventies and as it does with the content: very few SF novels live up to their covers. McQuarrie had that sense of farness pinned down to a tee.
 
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