Is gamification of driving the answer to urban speeding?

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Electric cars and heavy right feet don't really go well together. Is GM onto something with the interactive feedback it's giving drivers of its new Chevrolet Volt? The answer from this petrolhead is "quite possibly, yes."

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woogs

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I still think systems like this one will just be short detours on the road to self-driving vehicles. We'll remember them the same way we think about early cars with hand-operated clutches or multiple shifting levers - as historical oddities. Notable in their innovation, but just one more false step on the way to something much better.
 
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GundaRaj

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jiteo":3eacd3j0 said:
I'm more worried about drivers paying more attention to their dashboard than the road...

I was wondering this exact same thing, just how distracting is the little green ball? Also, will it get tiresome over a period of several years. If GM can regularly update the interface ala game patches this could be an exciting innovation.
 
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Zyrusticae

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But I already drive like this.

Knowing that I have to conserve as much momentum as humanly possible in order to maintain fuel efficiency, I engage in simple practices that provide great efficiency gains. I guess something like this is necessary for those who are not aware of, heh, the laws of physics, or simply don't deign to pay heed to them, but surely there are easier ways to increase awareness of good driving practices?

But of course, this is already done, so there's no reason to go backwards. Still, if I ever get a vehicle with this kind of feature, I probably won't be using it any.
 
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GundaRaj":3sr747o4 said:
jiteo":3sr747o4 said:
I'm more worried about drivers paying more attention to their dashboard than the road...

I was wondering this exact same thing, just how distracting is the little green ball? Also, will it get tiresome over a period of several years. If GM can regularly update the interface ala game patches this could be an exciting innovation.

Hello Kitty DLC avaliable next week.
 
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First of all, it's a GM product, which is a big strikeout for me. I bought a few brand-new GM products in the last decade - and all of them literally started to fall apart after the first year. The last one, a 2007 Acadia, had the power steering pump die. And 3 weeks to wait for a replacement. And just before I traded it in, the pump started to go again. Sorry GM, my faith in your product longevity is not high.

Second of all, I get the idea of an "extended-range" hybrid. Use the battery for commuting, gas engine when you need to go far. Because let's face it, the majority of people do not have the cash to buy more than one new car at a time, and if they're going to drop $25k+ on a car, it's gotta be able to go for those drives on the weekend. The Volt sounds like a savoir, right? Until you can buy a cheap $15k all-electric commuter car for going to and from work, and an alternative-fuel vehicle you can travel long distances with the ease of refueling that gas offers, this is as good as it's going to get, right?

The problem with the Volt is that it really does neither of those things exceptionally well. Oh sure, it'll bring you to work and back, and you'll never have to charge it... but you might have to fill it up. And since it's based on the Cobalt platform, you're not going to be able to fit very many large Americans into it, along with all their matched luggage for a long road trip to the grandparent's house. And since you've already spent your monthly payment budget on one car, you'll have to buy a used car, and heave money you simply don't have into keeping that thing running.

Now, finally, as a petrol-head myself, I find the concept of the Volt nauseating. If I wanted to be told how to drive, I'd make it simple, and live in a communist country. They could also tell me what to eat and what to drink, where to work and how much money I can make. I wouldn't be able to "occupy" anything, because I wouldn't have any freedom or rights to complain about being trodden over anyways.

Yes, there is an epidemic on our roads. Inattentive drivers, people driving drunk, young kids and their Folgers-can-equipped Civics racing between the lights, and the men with small penises and their jacked-up trucks pretending they're in a Nascar race, drowning the rest of us in the blue smoke emanating from their modified diesels.

But clamping down on our freedom to push the go-pedal when you come around the corner on a highway, and are greeted with a kilometer or more of untwisting and empty tarmac in front of you? Frankly, I'd rather have my testicles removed through my nasal canal than even feel guilty about being able to achieve that most primitive of adrenaline rushes. Do I do that in rush hour traffic? Perhaps in school zones during morning drop-off? No, perhaps because I am not an idiot. Perhaps because I am one of the few people remaining on the planet with both a drivers' license that's record is empty, along with a criminal record that is also as blank, that knows when to keep it in my trousers, and when to let my foot make the pedal meet the carpet.

The Volt is the personification of everything I, as a petrol-head, cannot stand. It is built by a useless corporation that's taken too much money from Joe Blow consumer, still cranks out substandard products, doesn't do anything it's supposed to beyond acceptable, and now, makes you feel guilty for wanting to have fun.

Me, I'd rather continue to pump dead dinosaurs into my obnoxious car, and go for a drive.
 
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I would love for this kind of thing to be part of a HUD system for cars.

Other useful things to include: In-cab speed limit signaling (via transponders in asphalt or speed limit sign, or via GPS map meta data), integrated system with highway/major road that detects "compression traffic" and identifies the average speed of the road, so people will hopefully switch to the average speed to cancel out the compression... Hell, even a Kinetic Energy display that just weighs the car, and measures the speed and plugs that in to KE=(1/2)mv^2 - it could even, based on braking models/road conditions (it should be pretty trivial to put some sort of liquid sensors in the wheel wells, right?) project stoping distance onto the HUD and compare that to a very low powered forward ranging radar output.

I think people would drive a lot less dumb if their car told them "This car has enough energy now to turn you into tomato paste, also we've measured your reaction time to 300ms, which coincidently is the amount of time you'd have to stop to avoid hitting the car infront of you, even if your breaks could provide the 10g that would require, which they can't. Your brakes will need 300 feet to stop, and you have 15, maybe you should do something about that."

UI issues would have to be sorted out, and there'd need to be interlockings that would prevent screens that are too information rich being displayed while the car is in anything but park / or allow the passenger display to act as navigator/driving engineer mode.

I think drivers conflate lack assistive control with "I'm free!", so my desire to turn a car into an airplane cockpit on wheels won't go anywhere I bet.

"I don't need to godless car telling me about newtilian mechanics, god damnit, I'm an American!" is how i expect that to play out.
 
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Isn't this kind of old?

I know the Peugeot 406 had km/l (metric miles per gallon) on the display board around 10 years ago. It was very enlightening for me to drive, as it really told me how much I could and could not change. For instance I could calculate the cost of driving 150km/h instead of 130km/h, which was surprisingly high, since fuel-consumption skyrockets at higher speeds.
 
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Dr Gitlin":21w303m1 said:
It is, but it's much less socially acceptable at 8:30 am on a wet wednesday morning in Washington, DC.

Safety First. Still, proper driving training is more important than a distracting widget, not to mention that I've encountered many hybrid-car drivers that created a slow moving lane behind them (and the eventual slowdown as other people get in their lane, come out of intersections or driving slower than the red light wave) as they drove the way the economy gauges indicated, instead of what the road and traffic conditions required.
 
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macdonalder

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emilecantin":ja8v6xvm said:
The latest Honda Civics do this also, they have two bars at each side of the speed indicator that are green when your fuel efficiency is high, and blue when it's low.

This, similar mechanic, dating back to the 2004 Civic Hybrid at least (http://imgur.com/sWWXJ - courtesy of Motor Trend).
 
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PVO":2dnh4d6w said:
First of all, it's a GM product, which is a big strikeout for me. I bought a few brand-new GM products in the last decade - and all of them literally started to fall apart after the first year. The last one, a 2007 Acadia, had the power steering pump die. And 3 weeks to wait for a replacement. And just before I traded it in, the pump started to go again. Sorry GM, my faith in your product longevity is not high.

Second of all, I get the idea of an "extended-range" hybrid. Use the battery for commuting, gas engine when you need to go far. Because let's face it, the majority of people do not have the cash to buy more than one new car at a time, and if they're going to drop $25k+ on a car, it's gotta be able to go for those drives on the weekend. The Volt sounds like a savoir, right? Until you can buy a cheap $15k all-electric commuter car for going to and from work, and an alternative-fuel vehicle you can travel long distances with the ease of refueling that gas offers, this is as good as it's going to get, right?

The problem with the Volt is that it really does neither of those things exceptionally well. Oh sure, it'll bring you to work and back, and you'll never have to charge it... but you might have to fill it up. And since it's based on the Cobalt platform, you're not going to be able to fit very many large Americans into it, along with all their matched luggage for a long road trip to the grandparent's house. And since you've already spent your monthly payment budget on one car, you'll have to buy a used car, and heave money you simply don't have into keeping that thing running.

Now, finally, as a petrol-head myself, I find the concept of the Volt nauseating. If I wanted to be told how to drive, I'd make it simple, and live in a communist country. They could also tell me what to eat and what to drink, where to work and how much money I can make. I wouldn't be able to "occupy" anything, because I wouldn't have any freedom or rights to complain about being trodden over anyways.

Yes, there is an epidemic on our roads. Inattentive drivers, people driving drunk, young kids and their Folgers-can-equipped Civics racing between the lights, and the men with small penises and their jacked-up trucks pretending they're in a Nascar race, drowning the rest of us in the blue smoke emanating from their modified diesels.

But clamping down on our freedom to push the go-pedal when you come around the corner on a highway, and are greeted with a kilometer or more of untwisting and empty tarmac in front of you? Frankly, I'd rather have my testicles removed through my nasal canal than even feel guilty about being able to achieve that most primitive of adrenaline rushes. Do I do that in rush hour traffic? Perhaps in school zones during morning drop-off? No, perhaps because I am not an idiot. Perhaps because I am one of the few people remaining on the planet with both a drivers' license that's record is empty, along with a criminal record that is also as blank, that knows when to keep it in my trousers, and when to let my foot make the pedal meet the carpet.

The Volt is the personification of everything I, as a petrol-head, cannot stand. It is built by a useless corporation that's taken too much money from Joe Blow consumer, still cranks out substandard products, doesn't do anything it's supposed to beyond acceptable, and now, makes you feel guilty for wanting to have fun.

Me, I'd rather continue to pump dead dinosaurs into my obnoxious car, and go for a drive.

Way to miss the damn point. *shakes head*
 
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PVO":1p213qcu said:
Oh sure, it'll bring you to work and back, and you'll never have to charge it... but you might have to fill it up. And since it's based on the Cobalt platform, you're not going to be able to fit very many large Americans into it, along with all their matched luggage for a long road trip to the grandparent's house. And since you've already spent your monthly payment budget on one car, you'll have to buy a used car, and heave money you simply don't have into keeping that thing running.

I beg to differ. You can put 4 adults, a small dog, and luggage for a two week trip into a 2006 Cobalt LS, and have everyone comfortable for a ~5000 Km drive (Kamloops, BC to Whitehorse, YT) roundtrip.

You can even put 3 adults, 2 car seats, 2 babies, and all the amenities for same into the trunk for a ~1000 Km roudtrip from Kamloops, BC to Vancouver, BC.

There's even room in there for 5 adults, including their luggage, for weekend trips the States.

And if you only stick 2 people into it, you can fill it with enough stuff to make the roundtrip to Las Vegas exciting, and the border guards cringe when you pull out the stack of receipts.

There's a lot more room in a Cobalt than you think. Especially if you know how to pack a trunk.
 
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It's funny but the Sonata Hybrid has a similar system and it took me a couple of minutes into a test drive before I started modifying my driving behavior to keep the vehicle in its optimal zone. At the end of the test drive, I was totally convinced that such a system would actually help me modify my driving behavior on my daily commute. And before some idiot chimes in, yes, I do know I don't need such a system. When I was rather broke, I did practice hypermilling and even researched what the optimal driving speed was on the highway for me to get the best gas mileage back in the day. Now that I can afford to not worry about the cost of gas, I find myself regularly doing burnouts and wasting gas just for the heck of it. I daresay I'll certainly be less wasteful if my truck put such information front and center.
 
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phoenix_rizzen":169d3f8p said:
PVO":169d3f8p said:
Oh sure, it'll bring you to work and back, and you'll never have to charge it... but you might have to fill it up. And since it's based on the Cobalt platform, you're not going to be able to fit very many large Americans into it, along with all their matched luggage for a long road trip to the grandparent's house. And since you've already spent your monthly payment budget on one car, you'll have to buy a used car, and heave money you simply don't have into keeping that thing running.

I beg to differ. You can put 4 adults, a small dog, and luggage for a two week trip into a 2006 Cobalt LS, and have everyone comfortable for a ~5000 Km drive (Kamloops, BC to Whitehorse, YT) roundtrip.

You can even put 3 adults, 2 car seats, 2 babies, and all the amenities for same into the trunk for a ~1000 Km roudtrip from Kamloops, BC to Vancouver, BC.

There's even room in there for 5 adults, including their luggage, for weekend trips the States.

And if you only stick 2 people into it, you can fill it with enough stuff to make the roundtrip to Las Vegas exciting, and the border guards cringe when you pull out the stack of receipts.

There's a lot more room in a Cobalt than you think. Especially if you know how to pack a trunk.

Ah, but you're not talking about fat-ass Americans.
 
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Carewolf":35axa2dg said:
Isn't this kind of old?

I know the Peugeot 406 had km/l (metric miles per gallon) on the display board around 10 years ago. It was very enlightening for me to drive, as it really told me how much I could and could not change. For instance I could calculate the cost of driving 150km/h instead of 130km/h, which was surprisingly high, since fuel-consumption skyrockets at higher speeds.

God, I would love it if Canadian cars came with a Km/L gauge. Instead, they come with that stupid L/100Km gauge. What the hell is that? Who cares how many L it takes to go 100 Km, I want to know how far I can get on a 40 L tank.

Say what you want about the Americans, at least their mileage gauge makes sense.
 
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PVO":sptwmu56 said:
First of all, it's a GM product, which is a big strikeout for me. I bought a few brand-new GM products in the last decade - and all of them literally started to fall apart after the first year. The last one, a 2007 Acadia, had the power steering pump die. And 3 weeks to wait for a replacement. And just before I traded it in, the pump started to go again. Sorry GM, my faith in your product longevity is not high.

Second of all, I get the idea of an "extended-range" hybrid. Use the battery for commuting, gas engine when you need to go far. Because let's face it, the majority of people do not have the cash to buy more than one new car at a time, and if they're going to drop $25k+ on a car, it's gotta be able to go for those drives on the weekend. The Volt sounds like a savoir, right? Until you can buy a cheap $15k all-electric commuter car for going to and from work, and an alternative-fuel vehicle you can travel long distances with the ease of refueling that gas offers, this is as good as it's going to get, right?

The problem with the Volt is that it really does neither of those things exceptionally well. Oh sure, it'll bring you to work and back, and you'll never have to charge it... but you might have to fill it up. And since it's based on the Cobalt platform, you're not going to be able to fit very many large Americans into it, along with all their matched luggage for a long road trip to the grandparent's house. And since you've already spent your monthly payment budget on one car, you'll have to buy a used car, and heave money you simply don't have into keeping that thing running.

Now, finally, as a petrol-head myself, I find the concept of the Volt nauseating. If I wanted to be told how to drive, I'd make it simple, and live in a communist country. They could also tell me what to eat and what to drink, where to work and how much money I can make. I wouldn't be able to "occupy" anything, because I wouldn't have any freedom or rights to complain about being trodden over anyways.

Yes, there is an epidemic on our roads. Inattentive drivers, people driving drunk, young kids and their Folgers-can-equipped Civics racing between the lights, and the men with small penises and their jacked-up trucks pretending they're in a Nascar race, drowning the rest of us in the blue smoke emanating from their modified diesels.

But clamping down on our freedom to push the go-pedal when you come around the corner on a highway, and are greeted with a kilometer or more of untwisting and empty tarmac in front of you? Frankly, I'd rather have my testicles removed through my nasal canal than even feel guilty about being able to achieve that most primitive of adrenaline rushes. Do I do that in rush hour traffic? Perhaps in school zones during morning drop-off? No, perhaps because I am not an idiot. Perhaps because I am one of the few people remaining on the planet with both a drivers' license that's record is empty, along with a criminal record that is also as blank, that knows when to keep it in my trousers, and when to let my foot make the pedal meet the carpet.

The Volt is the personification of everything I, as a petrol-head, cannot stand. It is built by a useless corporation that's taken too much money from Joe Blow consumer, still cranks out substandard products, doesn't do anything it's supposed to beyond acceptable, and now, makes you feel guilty for wanting to have fun.

Me, I'd rather continue to pump dead dinosaurs into my obnoxious car, and go for a drive.

TL;DR

I misunderstand gamification as an attack on my driving.
 
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PVO":ax5hg08l said:
First of all, it's a GM product, which is a big strikeout for me. I bought a few brand-new GM products in the last decade - and all of them literally started to fall apart after the first year. The last one, a 2007 Acadia, had the power steering pump die. And 3 weeks to wait for a replacement. And just before I traded it in, the pump started to go again. Sorry GM, my faith in your product longevity is not high.

Second of all, I get the idea of an "extended-range" hybrid. Use the battery for commuting, gas engine when you need to go far. Because let's face it, the majority of people do not have the cash to buy more than one new car at a time, and if they're going to drop $25k+ on a car, it's gotta be able to go for those drives on the weekend. The Volt sounds like a savoir, right? Until you can buy a cheap $15k all-electric commuter car for going to and from work, and an alternative-fuel vehicle you can travel long distances with the ease of refueling that gas offers, this is as good as it's going to get, right?

The problem with the Volt is that it really does neither of those things exceptionally well. Oh sure, it'll bring you to work and back, and you'll never have to charge it... but you might have to fill it up. And since it's based on the Cobalt platform, you're not going to be able to fit very many large Americans into it, along with all their matched luggage for a long road trip to the grandparent's house. And since you've already spent your monthly payment budget on one car, you'll have to buy a used car, and heave money you simply don't have into keeping that thing running.

Now, finally, as a petrol-head myself, I find the concept of the Volt nauseating. If I wanted to be told how to drive, I'd make it simple, and live in a communist country. They could also tell me what to eat and what to drink, where to work and how much money I can make. I wouldn't be able to "occupy" anything, because I wouldn't have any freedom or rights to complain about being trodden over anyways.

Yes, there is an epidemic on our roads. Inattentive drivers, people driving drunk, young kids and their Folgers-can-equipped Civics racing between the lights, and the men with small penises and their jacked-up trucks pretending they're in a Nascar race, drowning the rest of us in the blue smoke emanating from their modified diesels.

But clamping down on our freedom to push the go-pedal when you come around the corner on a highway, and are greeted with a kilometer or more of untwisting and empty tarmac in front of you? Frankly, I'd rather have my testicles removed through my nasal canal than even feel guilty about being able to achieve that most primitive of adrenaline rushes. Do I do that in rush hour traffic? Perhaps in school zones during morning drop-off? No, perhaps because I am not an idiot. Perhaps because I am one of the few people remaining on the planet with both a drivers' license that's record is empty, along with a criminal record that is also as blank, that knows when to keep it in my trousers, and when to let my foot make the pedal meet the carpet.

The Volt is the personification of everything I, as a petrol-head, cannot stand. It is built by a useless corporation that's taken too much money from Joe Blow consumer, still cranks out substandard products, doesn't do anything it's supposed to beyond acceptable, and now, makes you feel guilty for wanting to have fun.

Me, I'd rather continue to pump dead dinosaurs into my obnoxious car, and go for a drive.

(Assuming this is troll, but will respond anyway because some are surely agreeing with this.)
That is a nauseating attitude you've got there. No one is entitled to pollute the air and waste energy to get an adrenaline rush. Consider yourself lucky that you've been able to do it at all.

Edit: No need for insults.
 
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But you don't need to know your revs in a Volt, since the internal combustion engine is not directly connected to the drivetrain; rather, it runs at optimum rpm when needed to charge the onboard batteries.

Might want to change this as the ICE is connected to the transmission. It's mechanically connected to the ring gear which Chevy says means there's 'no direct connection' to the drivetrain, but you could make the same argument about almost any engine (especially autos going through a torque converter.) True, the engine isn't running all the time, and can just be used to recharge the battery, but it's not like a diesel-electric train.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/11/shoc ... heels-its/

edit: phoenix_rizzen - I don't want to try to defend the troll, but the volt only seats 4. The cobalt probably handles 5 adults just fine (as can a Focus or Cruze) but the battery pack in the volt takes out one of the back seats.
 
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phoenix_rizzen":2vhjc3gi said:
Carewolf":2vhjc3gi said:
Isn't this kind of old?

I know the Peugeot 406 had km/l (metric miles per gallon) on the display board around 10 years ago. It was very enlightening for me to drive, as it really told me how much I could and could not change. For instance I could calculate the cost of driving 150km/h instead of 130km/h, which was surprisingly high, since fuel-consumption skyrockets at higher speeds.

God, I would love it if Canadian cars came with a Km/L gauge. Instead, they come with that stupid L/100Km gauge. What the hell is that? Who cares how many L it takes to go 100 Km, I want to know how far I can get on a 40 L tank.

Say what you want about the Americans, at least their mileage gauge makes sense.
The UK one is stupid as well; here we do distances in miles, but fuel up in litres, but the gauge says miles per gallon. And then you're stuck wondering if they mean American or Imperial gallons since of course they're different (~1.2 American gallons to 1 Imperial) and Imperial ones aren't used for much anymore, certainly not for fueling your car.
 
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PVO":3nkyseaw said:
But clamping down on our freedom to push the go-pedal when you come around the corner on a highway, and are greeted with a kilometer or more of untwisting and empty tarmac in front of you?
Only it does nothing of the kind. It simply gives you feedback, exactly like a speedometer, a rev counter, a temperature guage, etc. There is nothing there forcing you to drive efficiently, any more than a speedometer forces you to drive slowly (or fast).

If you care to use the least energy, you will refer to it. If you are concerned about keeping below an arbitrary speed limit, you will refer to your speedometer. If you want to open the throttle, you probably won't look at the dashboard at all.

For an intelligent driver, being given more information is generally a good thing; how you use the information is up to you. Of course, an overload of information, to the point where it distracts, would not be a good thing. Personally, I would not find this guage distracting, any more than the speedometer is when I am trying not to speed...
 
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PVO":3m2lxqmh said:
First of all, it's a GM product, which is a big strikeout for me. I bought a few brand-new GM products in the last decade - and all of them literally started to fall apart after the first year. The last one, a 2007 Acadia, had the power steering pump die. And 3 weeks to wait for a replacement. And just before I traded it in, the pump started to go again. Sorry GM, my faith in your product longevity is not high.

There's a reason why they call GM "General Maintenance", hahahaha
 
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badpool":2djkctep said:
(Assuming this is troll, but will respond anyway because some idiots are surely agreeing with this garbage.)
That is a nauseating attitude you've got there. No one is entitled to pollute the air and waste energy to get an adrenaline rush. Consider yourself lucky that you've been able to do it at all.
No one is entitled to waste energy to get an adrenaline rush? What gives you the right to make that decision? It's definitely not something the rest of the world agrees with. That statement would prevent anyone doing anything they found exciting if it wasn't a necessity. I take it you have a serious problem with motor sports? Well tough luck to be honest, they're here to stay.
 
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PVO":3rym1dg7 said:
The problem with the Volt is that it really does neither of those things exceptionally well. Oh sure, it'll bring you to work and back, and you'll never have to charge it... but you might have to fill it up. And since it's based on the Cobalt platform, you're not going to be able to fit very many large Americans into it, along with all their matched luggage for a long road trip to the grandparent's house. And since you've already spent your monthly payment budget on one car, you'll have to buy a used car, and heave money you simply don't have into keeping that thing running.

... or you could just rent a car big enough to fit "many large Americans" and "matched luggage" for your trip. It would certainly be cheaper to do this, than to purchase and maintain a second car just so you can take a trip every once in a while.

This kind of thinking drives me mad. Similarly when people "need" a truck, just in case they need to move, or pick up something, or do something you actually need a truck for. Of course they can't afford both a truck and a car, so they end up driving their truck everywhere, wasting fuel in the process. I know a couple who have three vehicles, all trucks or SUVs, just so they can pull their snowmobile trailer with whatever vehicle they happen to be driving.
 
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I would think it should work to some degree. My car has a "real-time fuel usage indicator" as well as average fuel use displayed on the dash as well. It totally altered my driving style. Even though you know academically that certain behaviours can give you worse mileage, actually seeing just how much it varies and how fairly small things can actually make a difference really does drive the point home harder than "I probably shouldn't floor it at lights".

Then my wife and I turned it into a game/contest to see who could get the best mileage over a week and we actually started seeing noticeable (but small) differences in our monthly fuel budgets as well.

It won't work for everyone, or all the time, but it likely can help some.
 
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Nice article, thanks! For nearly 3 years now I've been riding a big & fast electric scooter (Vectrix):
http://michaelbach.de/misc/roller/
(sorry, in German :)

The mileage prediction there serves similarly to your "green ball". And I have noticed the same effect: moderation of driving, sort of beating your own record.
 
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LogicBloom

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I think "gamification" is not the right term for this. It's an instant feedback mechanism that lets you visualize the effect of your driving habits. It's somewhat like the bio-feedback mechanisms that famously help people control their heart rate.

Games can make learning fun for people who otherwise wouldn't bother, but that doesn't seem to be the case here. The driver is already expected to want to drive more efficiently. As some of the above comments illustrate, people who have no wish to improve their driving habits won't be convinced by the little widget on the dash. A true gamification of driving might consist of special achievements for good driving posted to Facebook. I'd pass on that one, but I'll bet a lot of people would go for it.
 
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