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[Thegn]

I think (and I could very well be wrong about this) it’s more of a “these guys took control of the evidence and now aren’t letting us have access” thing.

 

[Thegn]

So I guess all laws are optional now.

Always have been. cocks gun

(Astronaut meme, not a threat)

 

[Thegn]

No, demonstrating you have the will of the people should things escalate. More Gandhi and less Washington.

And then it becomes a contest between "how much are the common people willing to suffer" and "how many common people are the fascists willing to kill to get their way?"

 

[Thegn]

I literally didn’t understand their post. The things they stated were a contest between two things.

I was trying to clarify if one side of that contest was the duration of the common people suffering, where that suffering was due to the fact that they were striking or something else that I couldn’t derive from the text.

Clarifying: It's overall suffering. People will suffer from not having an income and not being able to access services. They will also suffer if the controlling force (ICE/police/military if the president invokes the insurrection act) attempts to suppress the protest.

 

[Thegn]

Do you believe that they’ll leave if they’re asked nicely?

Who is the audience? I would argue it is the rest of America.
I was speaking to an Arsian yesterday, and they commented that ICE the wrong city to start in. The thing happening in other cities didn’t make their awareness until a white person was shot and killed (vs. Chicago brown).
The goal of protest is to raise awareness, raise friction, build momentum. Nothing will change overnight.
But there will be more protests, more action, and eventually, slowly, then quickly, something happens.
So if you are looking for a single action, a single day, to have a massive change, you’ll never get it.
Look at this as a start, not as the end.

Hi, that was me. I think it wasn’t so much I wasn’t aware that ICE hadn’t been making the rounds or done awful things; rather that I’ve been kind of disconnecting myself from the news (I know, I’m reading the fucking SB) to preserve my sanity. I’m getting a drip feed of stuff from my wife (brown, terrified), the SB, and whatever other news sources I happen to read, while we are working on getting out.

Otherwise I agree that protests do raise awareness - a one day general strike in one city ain’t going to do jack shit to the admin, but it does get other protesters on attention. Recognition that no change has resulted will either cause people to give up or come back with a stronger response. If the entire country shuts down for a week I think that would have a much stronger impact. I don’t know that would be enough to move this admin, but they would definitely have to react in some way.

 

[Thegn]

Monkey’s Paw interpretation: They are evacuating the officers involved in the shooting.

 

[Thegn]

That didn’t pull punches.

 

[Thegn]

The problem with protests and martyrdom in affecting change is that it has to be communicated loudly enough that everyone knows about it. As media continues to swing rightward and be gobbled up by the oligarchs, it becomes more and more difficult to communicate the revolution to others.

 

[Thegn]

Reminds me of the Starlight Tours…