ICE protester says her Global Entry was revoked after agent scanned her face

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Minnesota has been obliged to bring in judges from (at last count) four other states to help deal with the deluge of actions.
To clarify, the federal courts moved four judges to Minnesota within the same circuit.

The deluge is the result of habeas corpus actions related to the immigrants being detained, not the civil rights cases of bystanders.

I mean, there are more such civil rights cases than before, but what’s really clogging the courts is the push to force ICE to provide writs of habeas corpus before immigrants disappear into detention 1,000 miles away.

EDIT: People are handing out little cards all over the place with instructions on how to get the info of anyone seen detained by ICE and who to get it to, so they can get the demand for a writ into the court before they can be put on a plane.

EDIT2: The secondary reason to be filming at ICE raids is so that you catch when detainees yell out their name and relative’s phone number. Secondary to recording any misconduct by ICE, of course.
 
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This is incredible!

Meanwhile, some American Jews who can get a German citizenship start doing exactly this.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEkE4BZyu4Y


The 103 years old woman who said something like "I never thought that this can happen in the USA, I thought we were immune to this. But now they are coming to the Latinos and the black people. Afterwards, they will come for the Jews. They always come for the Jews in the end".

Picture this. A 103 years old survivor of the Holocaust who gets back her German passport just in case. Who would have thought this can happen in the USA just 10 years ago?

You’re not Jewish, if you ask that question. That woman didn’t say anything fellow Jews haven’t been saying to me my whole life. Most Jews I know have always maintained an escape plan in the back of their minds. Not detailed, mind you, but like “I better not give up my dual citizenship” or “I’d go to the lake house, grab the canoe, and head up to the Boundary Waters to slip into Canada”, or “my fishing boat could get me to Jamaica”.

I knew multiple Jewish families growing up where the dad quietly maintained an arsenal in the house. Not NRA, gun toting, 2nd amendment-style. Just a couple handguns and a semi-auto rifle squirreled away in a gun safe that the dad thought the kids didn’t know about. Some had illegal full-auto Uzis, back when that was considered a quality gun.

It definitely got worse after Trump’s 2016 win, but we’re Jewish. It always comes around to us… always.
 
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Right now I think Canada isn't too keen on letting in Americans of any gender or orientation. I think they see us all as tainted.
As a Canadian, I can say this is not true. Most of us love Americans, and we consider them like family. For many of us, including me, we also have relatives that are American.

But the thing I wish Americans would understand is that it is so much worse feeling betrayed by someone you love than an enemy.

Because we have fought, side by side, in the major conflicts of the 20th century. Canada answered the call when the U.S. was attacked on 9-11. In my city we took many planes destined for American airports, not knowing if there were still more terrorists aboard. We chose to risk that rather than allow our brothers and sisters in America to suffer further harm, and we gladly took the Americans aboard those planes into our homes. We sent our first responders to help at ground zero. We sent our sons and daughters to Afghanistan, and we gathered solemnly as the caskets came home to bury our fallen. We joined that mission not because Canada was attacked, but because America was and had called upon us. So when last week the American President accused NATO troops of cowardice, saying they did not fight, my neighbour who lost both his legs in combat there (and his wife who suffers PTSD and health issues as a combat medic) can rightly feel betrayed.

Now the American government shows images of the U.S. flag over our country, insults our Prime Minister, says we should be annexed as the 51st state, and indicates they will use every economic coercion to harm us until we submit.

We watch in sadness at the events in Minnesota, and all the many casual cruelties perpetrated by the current administration. We’re confused why a substantial portion of the American population continue to support and cheer this President, as constitutional violations mount and the light of your democracy dims. With sadness we wonder what became of the America we thought we knew, and we fear for the future of a people we still love despite everything.
 
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As a Canadian, I can say this is not true. Most of us love Americans, and we consider them like family. For many of us, including me, we also have relatives that are American.
I just wish that Canada had a website set up to explain how us old fogies could emigrate. The official site seems to focus on working folks, which is fair enough, but those days are long past for me.
 
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I just wish that Canada had a website set up to explain how us old fogies could emigrate. The official site seems to focus on working folks, which is fair enough, but those days are long past for me.

Short version is there is no retiree program.

However if you are skilled worker you could apply through that program (Canada Express) and once in Canada while you must have means to support yourself you are not required to work in that field. There is no max age although if over 47 you get 0 points in the age category. With sufficient education and other factors you could still qualify.

Once accepted and immigrated to Canada there is no hard requirement that you work within your field and could use your temporary visa to obtain permenanet residency. Unlike other programs it is score based and top N visa holders when ranked by score are offered to apply for permanent residency so it isn't as clear of a path as some countries.

However there is no "retiree visa" that exists in some countries. That is why you are not finding it.
 
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Short version is you can't not as a retiree not without existing family in Canada. If you are skilled worker you could apply through that program and once in Canada you are not required to work in that field. You could retain residency by simply not being financially independent and having some employment even part time. You could even gain permanent residency that way eventually. Canada using a scoring system and the top n non-permanent residences in the skilled worker program are offered permanent residency.

However there is no "retiree visa" as existing in some countries. That is why you are not finding it.
That's what I was afraid of.

Back when I was working, Canada did their best to keep lowlife geophysicists like me out. And now that I'm not working, they don't want me either!

Wah!

Oh, well - Italy has been very kind to me and the people here actually find my joke funny!
 
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ICE and Border Patrol agents have become de facto a federal brown shirts. The claim is that they are looking for criminal undocumented immigrants but in reality their mission is intimidation of minority American citizens and those that stand up for them. They apprenty feel free to be judge, jury and executioner if threatened by democratic protest. The feel free to break in and enter homes without warrant. We are watching a nacient police state being born in the "land of the free". If you are at all worried it is time to get involved.
 
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ICE and Border Patrol agents have become de facto a federal brown shirts. The claim is that they are looking for criminal undocumented immigrants but in reality their mission is intimidation of minority American citizens and those that stand up for them. They apprenty feel free to be judge, jury and executioner if threatened by democratic protest. They feel free to break in and enter homes without warrant. We are watching a nacient police state being born in the "land of the free". If you are at all worried it is time to get involved.
 
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To clarify, the federal courts moved four judges to Minnesota within the same circuit.

The deluge is the result of habeas corpus actions related to the immigrants being detained, not the civil rights cases of bystanders.

I mean, there are more such civil rights cases than before, but what’s really clogging the courts is the push to force ICE to provide writs of habeas corpus before immigrants disappear into detention 1,000 miles away.

EDIT: People are handing out little cards all over the place with instructions on how to get the info of anyone seen detained by ICE and who to get it to, so they can get the demand for a writ into the court before they can be put on a plane.

EDIT2: The secondary reason to be filming at ICE raids is so that you catch when detainees yell out their name and relative’s phone number. Secondary to recording any misconduct by ICE, of course.
One of the posited reasons for regularly moving detainees from concentration camp to concentration camp was that it impeded the filing of habeas corpus as it muddied the knowing of what jurisdiction to file it in.
 
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Actually it was a democrat, Nancy Pelosi, who first approved of the surveillance of American citizens.
I didn’t know Nancy ever served in the Executive Branch. She did that all by herself? WoeWhoa… you really do learn new things every day on Ars!

EDIT: Fixed typo as shown.
 
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god the democrats were so fucking stupid on that. you still have plenty of prominent democrats saying protesting the very obvious genocide on gaza is antisemitic
Which ones?

I'm not saying that didn't or isn't happening, but even back in 2024/2025, I don't remember any prominent Democrats saying anything like that. What I do certainly remember is Republicans saying exactly this as a pretense to target universities.

Most reasonable people seemed to understand the distinction well enough. A few prominent Jewish figures even called out that entire argument as fundamentally antisemitic, because it implied that simply because someone followed the Jewish faith, they must have implicitly supported Israel's actions in Gaza.
 
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Do you feel the same about people trespassing in your home? They are not there illegally they are merely uninvited?
One of these is literally a crime. The other is a civil offense. This is comparing legal kumquats and kiwis and calling them the same thing.

And it ignores the fact that ICE has been documented repeatedly snatching up immigrants literally at court houses, trying to attend their own immigration hearing. And the fact that ICE is treating immigrants it literally kidnaps off the street as subhuman criminals, putting them in conditions that even the US's deeply problematic for profit prison industry would not be allowed to implement.

This is why the entire "sanctuary city/state" argument as justification is complete and utter BS by the way. So-called sanctuary regions literally exist as a response to inhumane treatment of immigrants by usually Republican-lead authorities. And all "sanctuary" means is that local authorities will not aid federal agents in removing immigrants unless legally obligated (which, for the most part, they are not) or unless there is some extreme case that actually warrants it.

For the most part, no one in the US has a problem with the government humanely enforcing immigration law — with the caveat that some parts of US immigration law itself is arguably inherently inhumane. Even Obama's administration deported large numbers of immigrants. We just didn't hear about it for the most part because they didn't make a gigantic show of committing egregious human rights violations to play to a sickening base that likes that sort of thing.
 
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So help me out. To my understanding:

PreCheck and Global Entry are optional programs where you pay for the privilege of getting an advanced screening and background check and added to DHS databases in exchange for a simpler, smoother experience at the airport. In opting-in to exchange personal security for convenience you're agreeing to play by DHS rules. None of these are rights.

Yes, the subject of the article is also probably afraid of additionally now being detained at border crossings, but we also never should have made that legal by allowing "reasonable suspicion" instead of "probable cause" as the 4th amendment bar to clear for detainment and search. So that's also totally legal and not a violation of rights.
The right in question is the right to not have the government punish us for speaking out.
 
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I’m a citizen living outside the US, and we decided not to visit the US until this is over. That decision seems less paranoid and more reasonable every day 😞.
Looking from the outside in, it is not clear to me why non-invested US citizens think this is going to suddenly and somehow be "over".
 
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How, exactly, was she "interfering"?

She was following at a safe distance, which the police will tell you is fine. And she wasn't using any illegal technology to follow them; it was just her in a car, not even trying to hide, which the US Supreme Court will tell you is fine (for the police, anyways).
Which in other instances will apparently require them to chase you down, run you off the road, then with guns drawn, pull you out of your car to arrest you and send you 45 miles away. Luckily the local police was able to get involved before she made it all the way to Minneapolis.
https://www.mprnews.org/story/2026/...events-federal-agents-from-arresting-resident
 
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I wonder how many Americans really understand the danger that they are in right now? This is unprecedented in the last 80 years and the world is making preparations. Think about it: nations which have been steadfast allies of the United States for more than a century are turning to CHINA as the more reliable trade partner.

You are well past your 1932 moment and are careening toward your 1934 moment, and as a historian of fascism, this is not hyperbole.

Anyone still hoping for free and fair elections in November is delusional. The train has left the station and I don’t know how you are going to call it back.
Considering that more and more Americans are arming themselves, we're protesting and organizing economic boycotts we're very much aware of the danger we're in and there are a lot of us doing everything we can right now to protect our fellow citizens.
 
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Losing it for arbitrary and capricious reasons isn’t how the U.S. government is supposed to work.

That’s how U.S. corporations are supposed to work, not the government.
I don't think anyone was suggesting they were arbitrary and capricious reasons. More illegal and unConstitutional reasons, to punish political opponents.
 
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The rapid deployment of surveillance as coercion against citizens reminds me of a certain other enormous country whose great economic success has also precipitated a net loss of individual freedoms ...

They both call it law enforcement. One uses face recognition to record potential criminal behavor on a permamemt record, making it harder for them to travel. The other uses face recognition to arbitrarily harm the lives of people they subjectively don't like, making it harder for them to travel.

Oh wait... one came years before the other. So the recent one's invention is an unoriginal copycat.
 
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You’re not Jewish, if you ask that question. That woman didn’t say anything fellow Jews haven’t been saying to me my whole life. Most Jews I know have always maintained an escape plan in the back of their minds. Not detailed, mind you, but like “I better not give up my dual citizenship” or “I’d go to the lake house, grab the canoe, and head up to the Boundary Waters to slip into Canada”, or “my fishing boat could get me to Jamaica”.

I knew multiple Jewish families growing up where the dad quietly maintained an arsenal in the house. Not NRA, gun toting, 2nd amendment-style. Just a couple handguns and a semi-auto rifle squirreled away in a gun safe that the dad thought the kids didn’t know about. Some had illegal full-auto Uzis, back when that was considered a quality gun.

It definitely got worse after Trump’s 2016 win, but we’re Jewish. It always comes around to us… always.
I’m Jewish, my grandfather, who was btw a US WW2 combat vet, always told me I should keep a firearm in the house, at least a shotgun or pistol, because someday they will come for our neighbors, and someday they will come for us. That fascism can happen anywhere, that it can happen here. And that they always eventually come for the Jews. My grandparents had a wall of pictures of relatives who they missed, who had been murdered in the holocaust, and one memory I have of him telling me this was while standing in front of that wall while he pointed bluntly at it

My family’s always been big on gun rights because of that, extremely liberal otherwise but the 2nd amendment is the place where nearly all my family breaks with at least the center-left (go far enough left you get your guns back, y’know) and I learned to shoot growing up - but I honestly didnt heed my grandfather’s warning as an adult, until last year.

I both wish I could tell him that now I understand and am happy he’s not around to see why, to see what’s now happening here, it would break his heart to see this
 
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I have traveled extensively in Canada, Europe, and Japan. Entering a country lawfully, carrying a passport, and respecting (and being knowledgeable of) the laws of the country you are visiting is an absolute: if you cannot behave properly--by the standards of the local authorities--do not go.

Please don't be alarmed by pointedly, intentionally alarmist coverage of a small number of people behaving badly, on behalf of people who did not enter the country lawfully, did not have a passport or visa--or had a visa but did not have the courtesy to leave when the visa expired.
I believe the poster is an ex-pat, and if he or she is uncomfortable coming in the current environment, choosing not to come is their choice to make. Personally, I am choosing to go visit my own ex-pat family member who lives abroad this summer, not out of any political concern but because it is my turn to be the one traveling.
 
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Until recently, I used to fly pretty regularly. I’ve never run into a problem with TSA, or even seen a problem at a checkpoint that wasn’t the result of the traveler being out of line. I cannot fathom how someone can run into so much TSA “crankiness” that they would go out of their way to fly through a different airport. Are you like Bin Laden’s doppelgänger or something? How are you running into problems with TSA?

Show my ID, put my stuff on the belt, walk through the scanner, be courteous as they search what they have to search, go to my plane. What am I doing wrong?

Whatever you've been smoking, I want some of it. TSA in all of the places in the US that I've flown through are some of the nastiest wannabe bullies I've ever had the misfortune to meet. Yes, they're courteous until they find or imagine the tiniest reason not to be. Maybe you don't look right, or your passport has the wrong stamp in it? Or you have 6 weeks' worth of personal medication with you, what, are you a drug dealer? Oops.

That was like 15 years ago. I'd rather not imagine how it is now, I took the USA off my travel destination list when the Rump got elected for the first time.

Sounds like you have a bit of unconscious bias goi g on there.
 
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Whatever you've been smoking, I want some of it. TSA in all of the places in the US that I've flown through are some of the nastiest wannabe bullies I've ever had the misfortune to meet. Yes, they're courteous until they find or imagine the tiniest reason not to be. Maybe you don't look right, or your passport has the wrong stamp in it? Or you have 6 weeks' worth of personal medication with you, what, are you a drug dealer? Oops.

That was like 15 years ago. I'd rather not imagine how it is now, I took the USA off my travel destination list when the Rump got elected for the first time.

Sounds like you have a bit of unconscious bias goi g on there.
I once had a TSA agent stop me, take me aside, and lecture me because he was checking IDs and I apparently handed mine to him sideways instead of perfectly upright and photo facing him.

I figure he was just having a bad day, but I get that they really aren’t fun jobs that most people aspire to and find meaning in.
 
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I have traveled extensively in Canada, Europe, and Japan. Entering a country lawfully, carrying a passport, and respecting (and being knowledgeable of) the laws of the country you are visiting is an absolute: if you cannot behave properly--by the standards of the local authorities--do not go.

Please don't be alarmed by pointedly, intentionally alarmist coverage of a small number of people behaving badly, on behalf of people who did not enter the country lawfully, did not have a passport or visa--or had a visa but did not have the courtesy to leave when the visa expired.

Yeah, I'm sure that everywhere you went, it was normal for someone to be summarily shot in broad daylight in the street by "law enforcement officers" for the crime of looking at them in a funny way.
 
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Whatever you've been smoking, I want some of it. TSA in all of the places in the US that I've flown through are some of the nastiest wannabe bullies I've ever had the misfortune to meet. Yes, they're courteous until they find or imagine the tiniest reason not to be. Maybe you don't look right, or your passport has the wrong stamp in it? Or you have 6 weeks' worth of personal medication with you, what, are you a drug dealer? Oops.

That was like 15 years ago. I'd rather not imagine how it is now, I took the USA off my travel destination list when the Rump got elected for the first time.

Sounds like you have a bit of unconscious bias goi g on there.

TSA are loud and obnoxious but none of what you described is TSA. TSA doesn't check visas, or stamps. They don't care about personal medicine. TSA is worried about transport security. Regardless of if it is security theater.

It isn't like security is much better in most countries. The only obnoxious people I have ever encountered in singapore were airport security. The absolute worst security of any country was Germany with agents yelling in German to a variety of nationals not just Americans but none of which who spoke German.
 
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Weasel words against students in the US on visas is disgusting in the first place, but doing the same thing to citizens is infinitly worse.
Why? The citizens at least voted for it, so they were kind of asking for it, collectively, but innocent students did not. These rights apply to everyone equally. Violating them is bad in any case.

Don't judge a country by how it treats its billionaires, it's political and financial elite. Judge it by how it treats it's workers, it's prisoners, and other countries.

And by that metric, the USA is a piece-of-shit-hole country.
 
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