Too much hardware was allowed to disconnect right at the edge of normal conditions.
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Should that be five kilovolts?“The overvoltage alarm thresholds at 400 kV nodes in Spain were, depending on the node, at thresholds of 420 kV, 430 kV, or 435 kV,” the report notes. Some of the hardware, however, is allowed to disconnect when voltages reach 430 kV. “The safety margin between the allowed voltage operating range and the voltages at which generators could disconnect was low [five volts] or non-existent,” as the report puts it.
Correct and corrected.Should that be five kilovolts?
TL;DR it's complicated...
Probably wouldn't have happened if we were burning animal dung to heat our food and keep our cave warm...
I should acknowledge that the ENSO-e report is over 400 pages long, and does not include anything like an executive summary. Even with this being a long report, I have necessarily skipped a lot of what it covered, including a complete analysis of the restart process for both Spain and Portugal.The ENTSO-E report also says that the classic power plants were not performing up to spec when it came to handling reactive power.
The second, reactive power, is power absorbed by components on the grid but not used, doing things like charging capacitors or powering electromagnets. It can potentially be returned to the grid at some point.
But Spanish grid policy assigned fixed values to any renewable generating sources rather than allowing them to adapt to contingencies. As this was an early spring day, the majority of the power on the Spanish grid came from renewable sources, leaving the system with less flexibility.
I should acknowledge that the ENSO-e report is over 400 pages long, and does not include anything like an executive summary. Even with this being a long report, I have necessarily skipped a lot of what it covered, including a complete analysis of the restart process for both Spain and Portugal.
Not suggesting you’re incorrect (this seems likely) but is there also concern that inverters allowing a larger swing in grid voltage could cause arcing/fires? I know that wasn’t an outcome from the one manufacturer that didn’t have so many inverters fall off the grid, but not sure if that’s also a legitimate concern.Very likely that the small home inverter manufacturers prioritized protecting the inverters instead of implementing best practices for the grid. After all, if the grid fails but the inverters survive, no warranty claims from unhappy customers. If the reverse happens, the grid stays up but inverters die, mad customers and warranty claims paid out. Might even be the case for the larger commercial units as well.
Love the call out to Practical Engineering in the article.
I wonder if some of these systems need a certain amount of variability baked in for making certain decisions.
Like say your system/product needs to disconnect when a measure goes beyond a set value. Normally not a problem. But when you have hundreds, thousands, tens of thousands, or more, of those devices all operating on the same rule? Ouch.
Maybe we can identify certain measures where it is useful to require manufacturers and operators to add a random offset for each instance of a device. The aim being to avoid everything acting at exactly the same time.
One of the curses of our ability to measure things getting ever more and more reliably accurate.
I seem to have been misconstrued. Animal dung was a proxy for an old (and inefficient) way of doing things. New tech is always going to have a learning curve. We will learn how to integrate massive proportions of renewables into the mix with an eventual goal of 100% renewables.The ENTSO-E report also says that the classic power plants were not performing up to spec when it came to handling reactive power.
Yeah, for things I'm trying to learn, I tend to read at least four sources to make sure I'm not getting biased by any single approach to explaining it, and get exposed to at least some of the subtleties. In this case, I decided to watch a couple of the videos as well, since an AC grid is a dynamic thing. I thought the PE video was impressively clear, and then I saw a few people saying "I work on power systems and this is the best I've seen" in the comments.Love the call out to Practical Engineering in the article.![]()
I seem to have been misconstrued. Animal dung was a proxy for an old (and inefficient) way of doing things. New tech is always going to have a learning curve. We will learn how to integrate massive proportions of renewables into the mix with an eventual goal of 100% renewables.
So is the problem that the common grid standard is 380kV and so equipment suppliers create equipment with a standard safety factor of 10% (meaning +-38kV) and so when running at 400kV nominal they they might be setup to trip at 435 or 440kV which provides a smaller cushion factor?Err..
One of the conclusions from the report is that Spain runs it's 400 kV grid at 380-435 kV while most/all other ENTSO-E members run it at 360-420 kV.
And Spain had a lot of 400 kV stuff set to trip out at 440 kV, 435 kV or even less.
Thus little, none or negative margin to the normal operation voltage range.
That played a role in the quick trip cascade once voltages rose due to reactive power.
Seems a shifty job...What I meant in that the old way wasn't operating to spec thus the old it also contributed to this SNAFU.
So we also have to learn to properly operate animal dung.
I think there would be some variability built into the system as those small domestic units are operating on local domestic lines around 230v. Now that voltage can vary depending on local loading and how far you are from the local transformer etc? So while it's a nominal 230v, it's +/- 5%. So while I might be seeing 235v, the guy down the other end of the road might be getting 225v. Both are totally "in spec". But how our grid tied inverter behaves would be linked to those numbers, and if the voltage spiked or dropped, one unit would drop out before the other.I wonder if some of these systems need a certain amount of variability baked in for making certain decisions.
Like say your system/product needs to disconnect when a measure goes beyond a set value. Normally not a problem. But when you have hundreds, thousands, tens of thousands, or more, of those devices all operating on the same rule? Ouch.
Fun fact: Australia's nominal voltage is 230v, +10%/-6%. 216-253 volts. Centred on 234.6 volts. The preferred operating range is +6%/-2% (225-244 volts).So while it's a nominal 230v, it's +/- 5%.
So is the problem that the common grid standard is 380kV and so equipment suppliers create equipment with a standard safety factor of 10% (meaning +-38kV) and so when running at 400kV nominal they they might be setup to trip at 435 or 440kV which provides a smaller cushion factor?
The restart process could probably be an entire article on its own... please.I should acknowledge that the ENSO-e report is over 400 pages long, and does not include anything like an executive summary. Even with this being a long report, I have necessarily skipped a lot of what it covered, including a complete analysis of the restart process for both Spain and Portugal.
I second that notion. Black starts of a grid are something that absolutely fascinate me: managing the load while the generators spin up to prevent overload, progressively bringing it all online within the bounds of what can be handled without having too much or too little load at any given stage... it's a dance that I'd love to see detailed.The restart process could probably be an entire article on its own... please.
I've listened to a lot of experts from a wide variety of fields talk about challenging aspects of their work, things that intimidate them, what keeps them up at night, and there isn't much that is taken as seriously as a black start by people who work in power generation and distribution.I second that notion. Black starts of a grid are something that absolutely fascinate me: managing the load while the generators spin up to prevent overload, progressively bringing it all online within the bounds of what can be handled without having too much or too little load at any given stage... it's a dance that I'd love to see detailed.
This is a case where increased regulation is probably needed.
Both.@Dr.Jay
ummm
electrically regulated, or legal/standards-body regulated?
Amen fellow Arsian. It's exactly why I got a subscription for a while.It always amazes me how Ars readers and writers can communicate through comments in normal, positive way. Not only that, but explanations and attached content both in article and comments are really worthy of read on their own. That's what keeps me on this site. A rare beacon of light in this ever darker world.
Great article, great community!
You are making a lot of assumptions.Very likely that the small home inverter manufacturers prioritized protecting the inverters instead of implementing best practices for the grid. After all, if the grid fails but the inverters survive, no warranty claims from unhappy customers. If the reverse happens, the grid stays up but inverters die, mad customers and warranty claims paid out. Might even be the case for the larger commercial units as well.
Yeah, i get that, but that might have been part of the issue. The domestic supply tripped out on high voltage. So the voltage drops, then other parts of the grid ramped up a minute later (gas turbine and hydro have response times in minutes). Than as they were recovering the domestic solar started kicking in again.I doubt that tripped inverters kicking in again would be a significant factor; usually, when an inverter trips because of high voltage, there's a low voltage mark that the line has to reach before it'll kick back in, and that's usually significantly below the high voltage cutoff mark (to prevent that sort of kick in-out-in-out oscillation.) Note that this is uninformed speculation on my part, not researched or supported by documentation that I've verified.
There are ways of removing active power from the grid, and a number were either active or available to the grid operators.
Yes, black start procedures strike fear into the heart of any grid operator. I'd happily read an Ars feature on it, but I'm not sure I'm quite willing to read the report in full.The restart process could probably be an entire article on its own... please.
The quick fix was the Hornsdale Big Battery to provide frequency regulation. Politicians were told by Electrical Engineers that the intertia provided by big spinning turbines needed to be replaced by something else, but were ignored until the state wide blackout demonstrated the risk.AEMO identified software settings in the wind farms that prevented repeated restarts once voltage or frequency events occurred too often.
I don't know what the rest of this week looks like in terms of news that should be covered, but I will try to skim that this weekend and see if there's anything there I can build a story around. While scrolling past those sections, I think I did see that they did a sort of "bring up islands then connect them" approach, and a few islands failed to come up, but I don't know if some level of failure was expected or things failed in interesting ways that I can understand, etc.The restart process could probably be an entire article on its own... please.