The test cannot tell if the virus is live. The FDA still assess milk supply as safe.
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FDA finds genetic traces of bird flu virus in pasteurized milk
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PatientZero
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There's nothing wrong, essentially, with eating meat.
There is, however, something very wrong with the conditions that animals are kept in, when profit is the only concern.
There is, however, something very wrong with the conditions that animals are kept in, when profit is the only concern.
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Ah hell, at least something proactive is attempting to be done here to make sure it's not a problem.
I really don't need another pandemic. None of us do.
I really don't need another pandemic. None of us do.
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To the poster above: When any bona fide news about COVID's origins based on facts comes along, I'm sure Ars will cover it.
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At this point, long read genetic sequencing (Oxford NanoPore and the like) are easily available and relatively inexpensive. Given the severity of the issue I would have thought that they would have tried deep sequencing techniques to determine whether they were just seeing lots of broken up sequences (pasteurization worked) or any longer unbroken strands (hmm… something might have survived here).
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I live in a big ag state. it's safer to drink this tainted milk than the water here.
Guess what they do with the birds after they "cull" them? It's not making chicken milk.
Thanks Beth for including the fact that the FDA is not giving any information about the testing procedures.
Guess what they do with the birds after they "cull" them? It's not making chicken milk.
Thanks Beth for including the fact that the FDA is not giving any information about the testing procedures.
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Who knows, perhaps exposure to denatured proteins and viral DNA will improve immunity from the worst infection, like the milk maids of yore!
Wishful thinking?
Wishful thinking?
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So what happens with milk used to make cheese or related products like sour cream, butter, crema, etc. ? I don't drink any variety of milk, but I do sometimes cook with it or use the products I mentioned.
Edit: I imagine cooking with dairy probably kills any pathogens, but what about the products you use as packaged?
Edit: I imagine cooking with dairy probably kills any pathogens, but what about the products you use as packaged?
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COVID is known with a high degree of certainty to be of natural origin and not come from a lab leak, so yeah, that's not really anything that needs reporting on. Evidence for lab leak is entirely conspiracy theory garbage and Rand Paul is an idiot.
If that changes - if someone finds a smoking gun - you can be sure you'll read about it here. Until then, keep the FUD to a dull roar. That's not news you linked, it's BS.
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Read the article, they're quite sure it will but haven't yet conclusively proved that in this specific case. The test they used reports positive in the presence of inert vital fragments. Most likely there's nothing to be worried about (wrt the milk supply, at least).I would have guessed that pasteurization would have killed it
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Nora Lenderbee
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Perhaps a boost for the ultra-pasteurized milk that uses a higher temperature for longer process?
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Most would be, but the article we‘re commenting on seems to indicate that they’re still finding some traces even after pasteurization. On a personal level, I’m not that concerned, but I was curious.
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No virologist, biologist or anyone scientific here… but any chance an inactive virus might do something to invoke an immune response?
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Ick. Plant based milk makes terrible kefir, cheese, and yoghurt. Those microorganisms can taste the difference. (Except for butter, milk products that are fermented taste better. And are probiotic, allegedly.)
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@HikingOutdoors You might find this page interesting. https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/u-s-right-to-know-bias/
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Yeah definitely better to drink arsenic than harmless dead viral debris? You know the entire western world advises against letting kids drink rice milk for that reason, right? But hey, you do you.
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DeschutesCore
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"Damage Control" can be required when outside forces do the damage, but you know that already.
Trying to present ANYTHING from Rand Paul, of all fucking people, just goes to show you aren't playing the game honestly to begin with.
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Lets be real, a lot of people who will freak out over the headline and will stop buying milk will continue to buy cheese and other milk products because in their mind, its only fresh milk that is tainted.
As an aside, yea, plant based kefir really is terrible. I tried it. Its bad.
Plant based cream cheese though, that actually tastes amazing. At least the one brand I tried that is sold at Publix.
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So why dairy cows and not beef cattle? Has there been any indication that the beef livestock are not getting this virus? I’m a bit concerned with that because meat isn’t “pasteurized” and could be spread easily in the slaughterhouse, butcher shop, and with the end consumer handling the product before cooking.
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Son of a dairy farmer here. Milk is pasteurized at 161 degrees to effectively kill anything that could survive within a human body. There are probably trace amounts of the manure the milk machine was dropped in when the cow kicked it off and trace amounts of proteins found in cow urine from when the cow next to her pissed while the machine was on the ground. Dairies aren't the most sanitary places for food production, that's why there are tolerances for e-coli in every milk tank. The pasteurizer takes care of the sloppiness. There is ZERO chance bird flu is still alive after pasteurization.
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