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Everyone should get a COVID booster this fall, CDC says
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You think Prasad is an authority on vaccines?
https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/dr...mbraces-the-antivax-message-of-do-not-comply/
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Prasad is a fucking moron who tried to compare the US's COVID response to Nazi Germany. The fact that you trust his bullshit opinions says a lot about you.
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LOL VINAY PRASAD HOLY SHIT
my favorite thing about this fucking monster is that he was pro-vaccine until he figured out how much money there was in being like you and lending the authority of his academic appointment to it.
you think wrong. the only way what you are saying makes any sense is if you do not consider "benefit" to include "less chance of getting infected and transmitting to someone else." which would, the rest of us with functioning neurons agree, be a desperately fucking stupid position to take.
not that I expect anyone to respond, but why can't we ban these disinformation peddlers? what value are they adding to the Ars forum?
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Generally, people aren't going to.
Debate goes thus:
You take a position. You make a claim to justify the position. You present evidence to support your claim. People examine the evidence, and then try to refute it.
Debate does not go "and you'll find proof of that by watching this 25-minute video."
We're not going to do your homework for you. If you understand the evidence Prasad is presenting, then explain it to us yourself. Or at least quote the relevant bits of the video. Don't expect us to spend 25 minutes of our time holding up your end of the debate for you.
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Nothing says SCIENCE like encouraging people to hide their illness and to refuse to take precautions.
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Disagreement isn't against forum rules.
Misinformation, on the other hand, is:
Posting guidelines said:
Of course, to someone who has bought into misinformation, it may seem like a simple disagreement.
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AmanoJyaku
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Revenue, which Ars needs to survive. I understand Aurich's position on open dialog, though I've called him out for not moderating people who've clearly broken forum rules. It's a problem, and it will continue to be a problem.
That being said.... While the study provided does show infection as providing stronger protection compared to current COVID vaccines, "get infected to get protected" is still a dumb position to take. Your "immunity" wears off regardless of the source, and the study shows this: by week 23 efficacy against reinfection is 50%, and 36% by week 40. That gives you two opportunities per year to catch COVID, and dozens of opportunities over the course of a lifetime for something to go wrong.
Worse, the study notes it has limitations: scarcity of data, publication bias, and residual confounding, among others. The results are not to be taken at face value, further work must be done, and with directly collected data.
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Yup, I did exactly that, (got the bivalent Pfizer vaccine) on the opposite side of the world (approx.) - NZ
For us:
Regardless of how many boosters you have had, you can get an additional booster now if you are:
- aged 30 and over
- pregnant, and aged 16 or over
- aged 12 to 29 and at higher risk of severe illness from COVID-19.
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Probably depends a lot on how your immune system is feeling on the day. Personally I got 2 x AZ and a Moderna booster, and while the first AZ gave me minor chills and fatigue the next day, it was very slight. And the others were negligible.
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In comparing the death rate from Covid to that other diseases prior to vaccines becoming available, you are forgetting that Covid had the benefit of an immunologically naive population in which it could spread unchecked. The exact impact of measles etc. on the New World after Spanish colonisation is not really known, but is probably a better comparison. If it was anything as bad as is commonly asserted - admittedly it appeals to certain political trends, and in such cases one must always be cautious - it was infinitely worse than Covid.
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The anomalous blood clotting that is a rare reaction associated with the two adenovirus vaccines (AZ and J&J) is very well established. Their use was temporarily suspended in many countries when it became known, and restarted once there was a handle on its frequency. Here's an example of a paper discussing it, but I'm sure there is more recent work if you want to investigate it: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2021/07/210707112432.htm
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Hopefully they'll get the Bridge Access Program sorted out in the next couple of weeks so those of us without insurance or with insurance plans that don't cover vaccinations can get a booster without charge. I would be very surprised if Walmart, at least, doesn't choose to participate.
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If you want people to believe you? Stop repeating popular lies as if they were truth, would be a good start.
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If you thnik they're spreading dis/misinformation, report the post. It's against the posting guidelines.
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Reading this while recovering from light flu symptoms and I have my first positive COVID test. I work in a IT support job in a major city hospital. Lots a flu going around in our IT department. Doing a @home COVID test is not mandatory but I heard from other colleagues that had positive tests.
The Medical Hospital staff that has patient contact will be able to get vaccinated at the start of October. Vulnerable people, such as people over 60 and pregnant women, can also get a shot. From mid October on every one who feels they need a shot can make an appointment to get a free dosis.
I‘m not able to thank a vaccine for my mild symptoms. The new vaccinations will start too late for the current round of infections we are experiencing here. I am great full for the vaccines and I‘m making sure that my 80+ years old father will get his shot but I can’t understand that healthy young people here are taking totally unnecessary shots. Even if there is little risks from the shots. That risk is not 0.
The Medical Hospital staff that has patient contact will be able to get vaccinated at the start of October. Vulnerable people, such as people over 60 and pregnant women, can also get a shot. From mid October on every one who feels they need a shot can make an appointment to get a free dosis.
I‘m not able to thank a vaccine for my mild symptoms. The new vaccinations will start too late for the current round of infections we are experiencing here. I am great full for the vaccines and I‘m making sure that my 80+ years old father will get his shot but I can’t understand that healthy young people here are taking totally unnecessary shots. Even if there is little risks from the shots. That risk is not 0.
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Just your daily reminder that all the vaccines for the SARS-COV-2 virus and its associated disease COVID19 have been tested extensively across multiple age groups. In fact it was the tremendous response of citizens around the world to calls for Stage 3 trial volunteers that allowed those trials to be completed rapidly in parallel, an amount of testing unprecedented in modern pharmaceutical development. And the tests continued for Beta and Delta-varient-specific boosters - not released due to those variants being superceded by Omicron - and the Omicron/Prime bivalent vaccine. In fact extensive long-term testing continues today with ~30 research institutions and 15,000 volunteers enrolled in just the one large US NIH-sponsored study. Finally, the COVID19 mRNA vaccines were based on 21 years of research into developing a vaccine for SARS1, for which candidate vaccines successfully completed large Phase 2 trials before the virus burned itself out, and MERS for which unfortunately no successful vaccine candidate has yet emerged.
[I was particularly impressed by the 11-15 y.o.s who volunteered for age group Stage 3 trials in the fall of 2021. I considered myself a sciency kid at that age but that group of young adults was fully knowledgeable on how clinical trials are conducted and what the risk/benefits were]
[I was particularly impressed by the 11-15 y.o.s who volunteered for age group Stage 3 trials in the fall of 2021. I considered myself a sciency kid at that age but that group of young adults was fully knowledgeable on how clinical trials are conducted and what the risk/benefits were]
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I don't have anything close to the parody writing skills needed to do it but I'd love to hear a parody version of King Crimson's "21st Century Schizoid Man" with the theme '21st Century Florida Man'.
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The irony of saying that in support of comment where he starts by rambling about how smart he is, and how smart the people he's met are....only to proceed immediately to "I suspect, without proof".
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