BRINC’s new police drone uses Starlink, carries Narcan, chases vehicles at 60mph

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What are the chances that an armed version of this is not in development? Probably nothing lethal at this point, but pepper spray or a taser? Seems like just the sort of thing that would be worked up in R&D "just in case".
People have been strapping guns to drones for over a decade. Anything from amateurs and hand guns to Sig Sauer and a machine gun at a trade show.
 
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Rip out all police and oligarch surveillance equipment. Demand data that shows effectiveness in "reducing crime". Raw data. Do not take officials' word for anything. Ask real cops on the street how much good it does. Save shitloads of money for investment in stuff people want and need.

The only surveillance we need to do is on the fucking creepy oligarchs.
 
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robocop memetext: Remember in the movie Robocop when corporate America aids criminals and helps incite riots so they can lower property values and then buy up the city while privatizing the city's police force haha science fiction is crazy
 
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What are the chances that an armed version of this is not in development? Probably nothing lethal at this point, but pepper spray or a taser? Seems like just the sort of thing that would be worked up in R&D "just in case".
I wonder how soon we'll see the Manhacks from Half-life 2.
 
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This is pretty awesome, any idea if something similar is here in Europe?
This would be awesome if it was a drone for helping emergency medical services. Unfortunately, this one is a police drone, so all of the positive uses are just to distract from whatever evil they actually plan to use it for.
 
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They talk about the drone carrying narcan and epipens but why do I have a feeling that's not what LEOs are actually going to have theirs carrying.
Yeah, distribute that stuff from known, familiar locations like we already do. Nobody's going looking for the police drone for their kit.
 
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They talk about the drone carrying narcan and epipens but why do I have a feeling that's not what LEOs are actually going to have theirs carrying.
Indeed. I expect they'll have "issues" keeping aid supplies in stock but have no problem with the offensive supplies.
 
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While I can understand the possible evils this could provide, I would like to be hopeful and see these used in lieu of making things worse. If these were deployed instead of a high speed chase, just think of the lives and damage that could be avoided. Granted, that the officers would need to be trained to stop and deploy these instead of following their instincts to give chase...
 
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One of the challenges with drones is the risk differential compared to humans in law enforcement/military, etc.

We don't really restrain our actions as much on morality as we think, but on opportunity cost. If you can eliminate the risk of a US pilot being killed, the opportunity cost for attacking another country goes way down and if there's no moral backstop, that will result in more such attacks. Similarly with border security and the like. Why not chase every broken taillight if you have enough drones?
 
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While I can understand the possible evils this could provide, I would like to be hopeful and see these used in lieu of making things worse. If these were deployed instead of a high speed chase, just think of the lives and damage that could be avoided. Granted, that the officers would need to be trained to stop and deploy these instead of following their instincts to give chase...
They will always make things worse. The introduction of less-lethal tools like tasers wasn't a reduction in the number of police shootings as predicted, but a lowering of the bar for when violence would be introduced. Where police used to talk to someone, and try and keep the situation from escalating to a drawn weapon, tasers and rubber bullets and the like are now routinely deployed much earlier, and when it appears someone is resisting while being tazed, that's when lethal force comes out.

The problem with policing in the US isn't the lack of tools, and adding new tools won't change the cultural expectation that they exist to provide order, not law enforcement.
 
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If there's one thing in this world that can successfully be replaced by a remotely controlled drone, it's a Police helicopter. I haven't exactly seen these drop officers to assist, or ram criminals' cars off the road. They fly, observe and report. Precisely what a drone does for way less money, all other things being equal (remotely controlled by human operators, etc).

It will be less fun and not as legendary, but all things considered - this is just like the traffic news helicopters - they were a thing, then they weren't.
 
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One of the challenges with drones is the risk differential compared to humans in law enforcement/military, etc.

We don't really restrain our actions as much on morality as we think, but on opportunity cost. If you can eliminate the risk of a US pilot being killed, the opportunity cost for attacking another country goes way down and if there's no moral backstop, that will result in more such attacks. Similarly with border security and the like. Why not chase every broken taillight if you have enough drones?
That's exactly it. "Crime prediction" systems are the worst in terms of perverse incentives, but any hardware incorporated into LE carries the risk.

The real moral hazard remains as it has for years - the citizens do not care enough to demand the removal of bad cops from the force. It has been and continues to drain the force of cops wanting to serve and protect and fill it with those who are there for the thrills and the kills.
 
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Does it carry Narcan for when the officers have a panic attack after being in the general vicinity of drugs? Cuz I hate to be the bearer of bad news but it's not gonna help lol.

Naloxone administration is hard to fuck up and the drug causes almost no issues if it's administered inappropriately, so it is pretty safe even if a bit useless in the hands of the average cop. Epi, fantastic idea. The pens making it nearly impossible to fuck up.

Cop drones? Absolutely not.
 
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If there's one thing in this world that can successfully be replaced by a remotely controlled drone, it's a Police helicopter. I haven't exactly seen these drop officers to assist, or ram criminals' cars off the road. They fly, observe and report. Precisely what a drone does for way less money.
Right, but the budget is what kept the police helicopter constrained. My city has had drones for a few years and they show up all the time now. Do you need drones to chase teenagers on their bikes? Because cities are using drones to chase teenagers on their bikes.
 
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This would be awesome if it was a drone for helping emergency medical services. Unfortunately, this one is a police drone, so all of the positive uses are just to distract from whatever evil they actually plan to use it for.
I read it carries epipens and other things to help people in need so I was not thinking of the policing aspect, I was thinking of the saving lives part.
We have a lot of forest areas here, hikers get lost, with a 60 miles range this could not only help in finding them but also deliver some supplies till main help arrives.
 
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Motorola Solutions involvement pretty much means it will cost three times competitors equivalents, be oversold in a flashy way at IACP and similar conferences, not work as expected unless you pay them more money for support, then get forgotten about in a few years as they go and buy a new company with some other flashy stuff. Not that they've ever done anything like this in the past several years.
 
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I hope it does a good job avoiding power lines while pursuing at 60mph.
Why would that be a problem? Power lines in any given area have a known, relatively low height. Above that height they aren't an issue.

See also: Helicopter pursuit.
 
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They talk about the drone carrying narcan and epipens but why do I have a feeling that's not what LEOs are actually going to have theirs carrying.
Dispensing emergency drugs only makes sense if the drones are significantly faster than EMS services. Around here, EMS vehicles are scattered around so there's always at least one some specified maximum distance/time from all points of coverage.

I'm not really seeing, either, what these tools are supposed to do without someone to administer them. The victim typically isn't in any shape to do so if they're so far gone that their symptoms are visually discernible from a distance.
 
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They talk about the drone carrying narcan and epipens but why do I have a feeling that's not what LEOs are actually going to have theirs carrying.
The zoom lens alone is worrying enough.

Wonder how quiet they are - you know the scene in "Blue Thunder" I'm thinking of...
 
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I read it carries epipens and other things to help people in need so I was not thinking of the policing aspect, I was thinking of the saving lives part.
We have a lot of forest areas here, hikers get lost, with a 60 miles range this could not only help in finding them but also deliver some supplies till main help arrives.
Doesn't have a sixty mile range, can do an hour on a charge and sixty miles an hour, but there is no way it does both of those on the same charge lol.
 
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