DJ Bruce Lee and Jackass Mr. Rogers—dead celebrities become puppets in Sora 2 videos

PhaseShifter

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I'll have you know that the Stephen Hawking video is 100% real. My uncle's cousin's father sent it to all his email contacts with the header "RE:RE:RE:RE:RE So inspiring! ❤️🙏", so it's gotta be true.
I can't watch that video without noting that "Stephen Hawking" has as many syllables as "Leroy Jenkins," so this needs more AI to fix the audio.
 
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I'll have you know that the Stephen Hawking video is 100% real. My uncle's cousin's father sent it to all his email contacts with the header "RE:RE:RE:RE:RE So inspiring! ❤️🙏", so it's gotta be true.
Didn't he had to do that stunt because he lost a bet with some creepy rich dude he was hanging out with back then?
 
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BirdOcean

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I can't believe people are so thick that they'd actually send genAI videos of Robin Williams to her.

That would be akin to sending a deepfake of someone you've never met to their loved ones whom you've also never met.

Wait, no, that's exactly what it is.
That actually happened to me.

One day, a relative of my younger brother's wife used an AI video generator to create a fake video of my dad (who died at the age of 70) meeting my months-old baby nephew to give him a hug.

It was painful. It not only looked very fake (my nephew floating in the sky, my dad noticing him and reaching over and smiling, the two hugging for 0.3 seconds and then separating as my nephew floats to the ground), but is of something that never happened and can't happen.

My mom thought it was cute. It might be one of those "it's the thought that counts" things for her, but it just felt so wrong to me.
 
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And it would be if it didn't take jigawatts of power to run, if it didn't take cooling water from cities and farmers, displace funds that could be used for genuine good purposes, and wouldn't all be functionally vaporware when compared to their advertised capabilities.

And?

None of that will be or ever be used to 'help' anyone.

Look at the world around you. Humans never even tried.
 
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So by that rationale, NO resources should be used for entertainment purposes because those resources and money could be put to better humanitarian use. Forget TV shows and movies then...

AI videos are simply another form of entertainment.
Paying other people to entertain you is highly sustainable. They’ll use that money to pay someone else making a living and so on.
 
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That actually happened to me.

One day, a relative of my younger brother's wife used an AI video generator to create a fake video of my dad (who died at the age of 70) meeting my months-old baby nephew to give him a hug.

It was painful. It not only looked very fake (my nephew floating in the sky, my dad noticing him and reaching over and smiling, the two hugging for 0.3 seconds and then separating as my nephew floats to the ground), but is of something that never happened and can't happen.

My mom thought it was cute. It might be one of those "it's the thought that counts" things for her, but it just felt so wrong to me.
My wife showed me something similar. Her sister sent her a AI-edited picture of a Polaroid photograph of their grandma at a much younger age (I guess the best picture they have of her) taking a group photo with the sister's two kids. One kid was only a baby when she died (at a much older age than the photo) and the other was born after she died. It was so upsetting I didn't really have words.

I would like to think the kids seeing that picture years down the line with no context would mess with their brain at the cognitive dissonance it would bring, but maybe by that point this would be so commonplace they'd complain like seeing how bad a VHS looked compared to movies nowadays.
 
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So by that rationale, NO resources should be used for entertainment purposes because those resources and money could be put to better humanitarian use. Forget TV shows and movies then...

AI videos are simply another form of entertainment.
It is the incredibly high use of resources for little gain that is the issue. Like using the NASA crawler that delivers rockets for a daily commute at 38ft per gallon.
 
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TimeWinder

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Ah yes, the AI revolution has now arrived at the 'digging up corpses'-stage.

Could there please be an AI company with a moral compass? Or is that too much to ask?
Apple has at least tried to not use AI when it doesn't actually solve a problem, and their stock has been absolutely roasted for it.
 
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Good lord, imagine any other maker of potentially destructive technology—guns or even industrial refineries—saying this.
“Move fast and break things” should be a lot more fucking terrifying to people than it is. Remember how we all sniffed at Elizabeth Holmes taking it just a bit too far when applied to a medtech context? Well, folks have chuckled along for long enough with how we need to break a few eggs to make an omelette that we’re now left with the general public’s inclination to just allow these billionaire sociopaths to experiment on society writ large as a bunch of expendable guinea pigs. Anyone else watch that Outer Worlds episode of Secret Level? How long until Soylent green really is people?
 
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danan

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I can't believe people are so thick that they'd actually send genAI videos of Robin Williams to her.

That would be akin to sending a deepfake of someone you've never met to their loved ones whom you've also never met.

Wait, no, that's exactly what it is.
I can imagine people being that thick. Unfortunately, with her complaining about it, I can imagine a lot more people doing it. It’s not just CEOs that suck, there are a lot of people who do insensitive things at one time or another. Sigh - time to go examine my mirror a for a bit. At least it won’t contain any insensitive AI fakes.
 
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Don't corporations own the likeness of dead celebrities? I'm shocked that this is fair game.

I suspect its a way to demonstrate value and user adoption. Since it takes a long time to settle through court OpenAI will be able to use this feature for years to come before its forced to stop.

Once sufficient grifting money is given to Donald the supreme court will decree that all of this IP theft is perfectly legal, just like in the Meta case for stealing all those books. Only the tech oligarchy has IP rights, everyone else can get stomped.

Why should I as an individual pay for anything when such rules do not apply to AI firms? The social contract has been shattered in America in regards to art benefiting the artists that create.

All so a handful of tech oligarchs can become deca-trillionairs while the rest of humanity wonders where their next glass of clean water is coming from.
 
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So by that rationale, NO resources should be used for entertainment purposes because those resources and money could be put to better humanitarian use. Forget TV shows and movies then...

AI videos are simply another form of entertainment.
Considering one AI data center uses more resources than the state of New Hampshire the cost for that 30 seconds of slop is a very high cost to the earth and to those nearby having their electric rates increase up to 250%.

(Extremetech if you want to know where the figures came from)
 
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And yet, AI requires developers, programmers, data center construction, maintenance, etc. Countless people are employed for AI purposes as well; no different than TV/movie studios. The money is moving laterally.

Yeah and? Coal mines and scam call centers employ a lot of people too. A harmful industry is not redeemed by having wage slaves.
 
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ColdWetDog

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Given America's unfortunate politics as of late, the obvious next step is to make AI political attack ads where Hitler, Jeffery Epstein, the annoying clerk at the DMV office, etc. personally step up to endorse the rival candidate.

(Or has the Overton window shifted enough that a Hitler endorsement is seen as a positive now?)
Too late. Trump already has pushed out a fake video 'showing' Charles Schumer telling other democrats that nobody should vote for them. And others showing Democrats saying racist things. Like most things Trump does it's pretty bad, but good enough to fool Maggots nine times out of ten.
 
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And there are already "Sora Watermark Remover" sites popping up all over the place.
Don't worry. I'm going to make a startup that will hire people to use AI to create a business presentation outlining my revolutionary concept of an AI that will put the watermarks back onto AI content when they're re-uploaded.

So, Sam if you read this, get please get intouch.
 
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Unclebugs

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Considering many of these dead celebrities still have IP in their image/voice that can't just be hijacked, this will not last long, and will be yet another financial blow to the AI industry that they can ill afford now.

May the cease and desist letters bury them a mile deep.
I would normally agree with you, but I am sure our current administration will fight this tooth and nail in the court system which will just about normalize this violation by the time it is settled.
 
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Someone should find photos of Sam Altman's parents and make video ads of them selling Hormel's delicious pork shoulder and ham, or holding satanic rituals, or ordering things from Amazon on Prime Day. Monsters!

Or have them sing "Happy Birthday" to Elon Musk, tell him he's the son they've always wanted, and that his xAI is the bestest.
 
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It's been apparent
The roving watermark's not a bad idea.
Well (no offense), no… It's not. It's a ridiculous waste of resources. How long do you suppose it will take for some fractious, clever nerd to devise a way to such a marker, and distribute that ability across the planet? A month? A week? Ten minutes?

There's a level at which the concept of intellectual property becomes insupportable. Given the ability to instantly distribute a property to millions, it becomes like trying to put gravity in a safe. It's a fundamental failure to understand what the thing you're attempting to control is. The stats on pirated entertainment content are still rising like a rocket despite the all but resources that have been devoted to stopping piracy for a quarter of a century. The only thing that reduced it was when providers made it easy and cheap to pay for content. The moment they got greedy and dirty, the world went back to stealing their product faster than ever.

It's been 60 years since Stewart Brand (allegedly) said "Information wants to be free." We're still in denial. Of course it's been 96 since René Magritte told us "This is not a pipe," and we remain convinced that an image can represent something other than itself. But I digress…
 
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RZetopan

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Ah yes, the AI revolution has now arrived at the 'digging up corpses'-stage.

Could there please be an AI company with a moral compass? Or is that too much to ask?
Parasitic carrion eaters never stop. Every one of them should be forced to view a video showing them doing something highly illegal, then they might* get the point.

*Likely not, since they have no discernable social conscience, sociopaths are like that.
 
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RZetopan

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Considering many of these dead celebrities still have IP in their image/voice that can't just be hijacked, this will not last long, and will be yet another financial blow to the AI industry that they can ill afford now.

May the cease and desist letters bury them a mile deep.
A mile is not deep enough. Since the Earth is about 8,000 miles in diameter, the maximum depth should be about 4,000 miles.
 
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