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sirmarcos said:

I don’t see how Tesla’s “camera only” approach ever works. They need more sensors which Musk forced them to take out.

And “robotaxis” is not some liquid gold industry! It is a pretty niche business that “doesn’t scale” because the taxi business just isn’t that big.

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In theory it could work. Most of the time when I'm driving I'm only getting useful information with my eyes.

But it's going to be harder than relying on multiple types of sensors. So it will take longer and probably cost more money in the long run. With the added risk of regulators deciding to ban cameras only vehicles multiple sensor vehicles become fully autonomous while cameras only vehicles are still crashing into things.

Glitchy_Gizmo said:

See, this is where I struggle. It's for the cars to manage the situation more than for first responders to learn how to co-exist with cars. If an officer is dealing with rapidly closing off a road due to a fatal collision that led to serious road hazards, they need to stop cars, make space for incoming emergency vehicles, and do it quickly. For officers to what... learn Tesla Sign Language? If an AV detects emergency lighting on the road, then it knows something is out of the norm. To me it's totally on the Teslas and Waymos of the world to sort this out.

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Maybe emergency vehicles could carry some device for this purpose. When they turn it on, it broadcasts a signal that gives appropriate instructions to nearby AVs.

Preferably with legislative backing that requires all AV makers to use the same standard.