[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=28318095#p28318095:1uvro3gh said:MattEvansC3[/url]":1uvro3gh][url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=28317791#p28317791:1uvro3gh said:vlam[/url]":1uvro3gh][url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=28317745#p28317745:1uvro3gh said:Coriolanus[/url]":1uvro3gh]After all, nobody would take seriously a guy who claims that he has lung cancer or lupus without any medical evidence or a professional diagnosis, either.
Surely you jest. If someone made the claim that they had a terminal illness, nobody would question it. There are anecdotes of this. People don't naturally request proof of medical diagnoses unless they are in the medical field and it is their job.
You know what real sociopaths don't do?
They don't talk about how they're sociopaths, and certainly they don't try to tell everybody on the internet how they are a sociopath, either. They wouldn't give two shits about it.
Um,
1. Nobody here believes me anyway. If my effort is to not be discovered, there is no harm in telling a room of disbelievers.
2. This is the internet. If my effort is to not be discovered, telling a group of anonymous people via anonymity will not hamper my effort.
3. This whole "sociopaths don't give shits about anything, ever" is very clearly incorrect. Sociopaths, unlike psychopaths, have a code of morality. It may be greatly warped from that of society, but it is a morality nonetheless. They also will have a very, very small "inner circle" of people they are able to act "normally" (read as: like normal people) around. This circle can vary in size or even consist of nobody but themselves.
3b. Is life not easier when you are able to act like yourself? Don't sociopaths act in their best interest?
4. Considering 3 and 3b, would it not be logical for a sociopath to see being accepted for what he/she is without societal rejection as the perfect outcome?
5. Read 4 from the perspective of someone who isn't ambitious. Certainly, anyone with the ambition to succeed and become better (perhaps "more" is a better word?), when combined with being a sociopath, will see being hidden as a benefit to their goals. It is easier to take advantage of people when they aren't aware of it.
6 (should be after 1 and 2, but I don't want to go back and edit). Mixing in a bit of whimsicality makes it even less likely people will believe me, as some might misconstrue my statements as trolling or satire (which seems to be all reactions so far).
If you act pleasantly to people to make social interactions easier, then you don't have asperger's, either.
I never said I had that. My problems do not stem from inability to act sociably. I simply prefer not being social at all. I want to be left alone. I was simply stating that I was accused (rather rudely, as it were) of having asperger's.
Nobody believes you because you are making up your own definition of sociopath so that it coincides with your behaviour.
First off there is no diagnosis of sociopath. The diagnosis is Anti-Social Personality Disorder. Modern psychopathy, which includes sociopathy is derived from the work of Robert Hare who proposed that in his opinion the difference between a pschopath and sociopath was about morality but also acknowledged that the terms are used interchangeably and that others use Socio to imply the condition is caused by that person's surroundings or Psycho to imply its part of their psyche and that's how their brain was wired.
How am I making up my own definition if I referenced the exact distinction that the leading researcher made? Do you think I pulled this "morality" thing out of my ass? That it was pure happenstance that I mentioned morality while Hare also cited it as the main difference between the socio and psycho?
Do you think I'm completely unaware of the dsmv eliminating socio/psycho in favor of aspd? Is it just a fluke that I mentioned being antisocial? Wanting people to simply not bother me? It is actually quite impressive, the logical leaps you had to make to fit me into your preconception. Even when I cited your exact reference. The attributes you randomly gave me...
And the usage of words interchangeably does not make them equatable. They might be the same. People could also be using them wrong.
I could tell you about hitting my lifetime low literally a few months after turning 15. I could tell you how I've disconnected from people, friends, family. I could tell you how easily it is for me to break acquaintance with people. Some of you will call me an asshole, or say I'm making excuses. I doubt anyone would actually consider that I simply don't create attachments with people, that I truly am antisocial or that I don't even care. That I consider it simply an alternative, not an abberation to be corrected.
I do enjoy a good argument; it passes time and is better than staring at a blank screen. But in the end, that is all this is. An argument. I don't get emotionally invested in them. Someone earlier asked why you would post about something if you didn't care, but really? People are emotionally invested in everything they discuss? Doesn't that get tiring?
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