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adrianovaroli[/url]":rhg13egz]

[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=28317175#p28317175:rhg13egz said:

Kevin G[/url]":rhg13egz]The gamer gate community certainly has a shit storm orbiting around but they have gotten results regarding ethics in journalism. For example, this happened a few days ago.

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I could swear I just posted something like "there are better ways to achieve stuff than bullying people so they do what you want. http://www.spj.org/ethicscode.asp, which GG loves to quote, specifically says journalists should "Deny favored treatment to advertisers, donors or any other special interests, and resist internal and external pressure to influence coverage." So GG is pushing journalists to act unethically." Must be time for a nap.

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That also says that "Avoid conflicts of interest, real or perceived. Disclose unavoidable conflicts." Thus the proper course of action when a conflict of action appear is to call them out on it. PC Gamer did the correct thing by properly disclosing the relationship of that author to a developer that he was covering.

Otherwise, the alternative is simply upholding the status quo and letting it slide.

[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=28317197#p28317197:rhg13egz said:

adrianovaroli[/url]":rhg13egz]

And like most things on the internet involving trolls, it would have simply faded away if they were left alone. The thing is that not only was the hornets nest poked with a stick with various 'death of gamers' articles, the nest was knocked down with a heavy hand of censorship on sites like reddit, NeoGAF and surprisingly even 4chan. The topic became a taboo overnight. The Streisand Effect took hold and things quickly spiraled out of control. One thing the Streisand Effect doesn't do is guarantee honesty when the message spreads. That's pretty much why it still persists today.

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Ah, still not knowing what censorship is. And I don't mean "Only gubmint can censor!" I mean GG had zero problem commenting and being public elsewhere. Being told "You can't crap in _this_ garden anymore" is not censorship. Get over it.

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Oh, I do understand. It is analogous to me being your guest, saying something that offended you and then you asking me to leave. Freedom of speech is protected in public and particularly from the government in the US. However, you wouldn't be able claim that you permit free speech in your house hold. Similarly, those cannot claim to be havens for free speech.

Such massive amounts comments removed clearly means that there was a message that really offended those running those site. And sure, some of those comments likely should have removed due to doxing and threats but the raw numbers were so massive that is improbable they were all of that nature. Instead of exercising precision, they simply nuked the whole conversation and we left wondering why all the discussion afterward was radio active.

Again, the proper course of action would have been let the movement lose is own inertia while pruning the cases of threats and doxing. What remained may have been mostly shit but that's something you can use to fertilize the garden to grow something better down the road.