.. sorry more than threeRight, his third campaign. Going to edit to correct. Thanks.
So you still get just as much fluoride, except via a different source. Most toothpaste and mouthwash in the US doesn't include it because it is assumed that we get it though the public drinking water.I will keep repeating this. Down here in Belgium, they do not add fluoride to the water. Our teeth are fine. No the water is not naturally high in fluoride. We have dental care that is payed back by government. No it does not mean we have dozens of cavities that need to be filled. We just brush our teeth two times a day with tooth paste with plenty of fluoride. What does make a difference in my own experience? Less soda.
This usually fills my message box with tons of replies. Of course I may be missing something. Some people did argue well that some nuance was missing. They are right. A lot of others just had trouble seeing beyond black and white. To those people, do not respond immediately. Wait a day.
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If it can wash out .. without washing out soil as wellDoesn't salt eventually wash out of the soil and it becomes fertile again?
I think ancient armies used salt because it would cause a couple years of starvation and economic collapse so that you could wipe out your enemy and take their land, and then move your own farmers on it and they could work it again after a couple years?
Edit: Google says this is largely mythological - salt was too valuable to spread on large areas of farmland.
Most Alabamans are too poor to afford regular healthcare, let alone "luxury" healthcare like dental visits, so no. That doesn't prove anything.So here's a control for what happens when we stop the fluoride. So what happened? Are dentists in Alabama overworked? Are Alabamans suddenly beholden to free thought?
Bottled water is typically filtered more than tap water. Tap is fine, but bottled is generally NOT just tap water in bottles. Thats propaganda by people that believe we shouldnt use so much plastic. They may have a point about use of plastic but it doesnt help their case to make up stories about the water in it.This sounds like some weird, localized marketing backwash - especially given that so much bottle water is, in fact, just tap water. But in a bottle.
I ALMOST said "salt the earth", but I went with "blight" because at least salt has health benefits.As per your previous comment .. salt apparently works very well for that
It is the classical way of denying your foe use of the land.
But “blight” can at least get you high .. if you extend the definition to ErgotI ALMOST said "salt the earth", but I went with "blight" because at least salt has health benefits.
Never heard of blight the drug, but of course one would have been called that at some point. Still, I'll accept that. These people have put the whole U.S. in an altered state of consciousness for years and deluded us in the process.But “blight” can at least get you high .. if you extend the definition to Ergot
Unfortunately its apparently universally a pretty bad trip if we go by historical accounts, and that episode of Quincy on the cruise ship.
To overly explain a casual joke .. and placate the pedantic monkey on my backNever heard of blight the drug, but of course one would have been called that at some point. Still, I'll accept that. These people have put the whole U.S. in an altered state of consciousness for years and deluded us in the process.
OooooooooohhhhObviously the stoppage was done because the managers were afraid of turning their customers into "Fluorida Man"...
Not necessarily. The folks who need floride the most are exactly those who cannot afford dentists. Pro bono and dental care don't usually go together.Dental health in locations that do fluoridate their water versus those that don't are pretty stark. I'm sure it's a boon for business for dentists in the latter.
Oh, like in that movie the VVITCH!To overly explain a casual joke .. and placate the pedantic monkey on my back
‘Blight’ or more specifically Fusarium ear blight, is a fungal disease of cereals, including wheat, barley, oats, and rye that rapidly effects the ‘head’ of crops as opposed to “rust” which is slower and effects photosynthesis of whole plant - leaving a reddish stain hence rust.
Ergot is a fungus that also infects cereals crops but more classically the grain after harvest .. its also known to produce LSD (maybe as a by product) but this isn’t clean ‘acid’ Think bad high school science bathtub syd
.. basically a guaranteed bad trip especially when ingested by someone unaware of whats happening to them.
and has historically been linked to the occasion outbreak of mass hysteria / madness
In one episode in old TV show Quincy the source of the ergot .. and resulting madness was the bowl the taco salad was served in on a cruise-ship which was made from wheat and supposedly edible
Yes .. but not the THE WITCHOh, like in that movie the VVITCH!
We're mostly just used to it. And we think water's better because the amount people drink varies a lot less than people's salt intake. Especially among kids.Curious, why is water seem to be seen as the only possible solution? Here in Uruguay we have fluoridated salt instead and it works just fine.
Common Not universal"noted that people can buy toothpaste [...] that contain fluoride to protect their teeth."
Isn't it common to buy with fluoride in the US?
Depends. I've used a fluoride toothpaste for years to help with temperature sensitive teeth. It works very well for that, the Plain Old Toothpaste I used to use didn't, but I'm not sure if that had fluoride or just had less of it."noted that people can buy toothpaste [...] that contain fluoride to protect their teeth."
Isn't it common to buy with fluoride in the US?
Hush. Don't complicate things for the Americans for whom everything is so simple.Curious, why is water seem to be seen as the only possible solution? Here in Uruguay we have fluoridated salt instead and it works just fine.
This is ridiculous. Just educate your population already and give them decently paid jobs so they can afford toothpaste with fluoride. Also if you don't have it already introduce regular fluoride gurgling in primary schools.Common Not universal
… first of all Not my populationThis is ridiculous. Just educate your population already and give them decently paid jobs so they can afford toothpaste with fluoride. Also if you don't have it already introduce regular fluoride gurgling in primary schools.
But I guess you don't want your tax dollars to be spent on free healthcare so it's cheaper to just turn your water supply into a cesspool of fluoride, bleach and lead.
If you floss first, you not only clean what the floss can get, you also loosen up what’s left so that brushing can finish the job. If you do it the other way around, brushing gets the loose matter and flossing won’t get much because the easy stuff was removed by brushing. Consider using things like Plackers Flossers that you rinse between teeth and throw away after use. Or a GUM Proxabrush that you rinse.I also don't get why some people like to floss first. If I brush first, there's essentially no debris left when I floss, which makes it much less of a chore. If I floss first, I'm constantly cleaning off the floss and it's gross and time consuming.
Just to add: water flossers do a really excellent job here compared to string floss. A typical trip for a cleaning for me was about 20 mildly unpleasant minutes. After using a water flosser, that's down to 10 minutes of...basically almost nothing, with final polishing (and string flossing, go figure) taking most of that time.If you floss first, you not only clean what the floss can get, you also loosen up what’s left so that brushing can finish the job. If you do it the other way around, brushing gets the loose matter and flossing won’t get much because the easy stuff was removed by brushing. Consider using things like Plackers Flossers that you rinse between teeth and throw away after use. Or a GUM Proxabrush that you rinse.
And even if you have dental coverage it's still expensive AF if you need anything more than a cleaning. (Had to cancel prep for a cap last year as the estimate with insurance was too much)And claiming toothpaste is enough is dumb because that means you assume the kid and parents both have good hygiene habits. (And the toothpaste actually has a clinically significant amount in it to make a difference and whether the correct amount was used. 5000PPM Flouride toothpaste is prescription only in the US. Your dentist may be able to sell you some too. But that's an additional barrier)Not necessarily. The folks who need floride the most are exactly those who cannot afford dentists. Pro bono and dental care don't usually go together.
Numerous nonsensical journal publications on pubmed produced by kids in prosthodontic residencies. The nonsensical wanna be journal article I worked on as a 2nd year dental student that was never published. The NIH. The WHO. Pick your poison.Citation?
I think the ranting about fluoride is still a good indicator, but re your question, it was adrenochrome the Satanist Democratic pedo cabal was supposedly after, harvested from children's pineal glands or some such weird malarkey.Is concern over precious bodily fluids still a good indicator?
Depending on the aquifer, some well water has sufficient levels of fluoride naturally, some doesn't. At one remote site where I worked for many years, the well water that we used daily was actually over-blessed with fluoride, and we were forced to bring in water from an outside source for drinking. My own rural residential well is down-gradient from that particular site, and while it's not over the limit, we do have abundant natural fluoride in it. Some of us rural poors get lucky.
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This sounds like some weird, localized marketing backwash - especially given that so much bottle water is, in fact, just tap water. But in a bottle.
I'm not on the west coast, but I drink tap water all the time and never buy bottled water except sometimes for road trips. If I want, I can pull up quarterly reports on water testing for my area, there are no problems with it, when local issues arise they are all over the news and get resolved quickly.
This reminds me of how neo-Nazis and similar extremists used to be the butt of jokes in mainstream comedies, like The Blues Brothers.My late Mom was a dentist. She started practicing at around the time Dr. Strangelove was released, in which film a fluoride conspiracist is portrayed as a bug-eyed lunatic. And theatre audiences laughed. Because it was ridiculous. This shit was thoroughly evaluated as paranoid nonsense over SIXTY YEARS AGO. What is even happening?
Always find it an amusing tale that coke charged more for the water from its bottling plants without any burnt sugar added to itBottled water typically is just tap water - where the tap water meets reasonable standards. Not all water supplies are reliable as Flint found out the hard way.
Edit: And the bottled water companies don't set up excessive filtering usually. They just bottle it in huge quantities where the government has already done the work and ship it whereever. Why duplicate labour?
Always find it an amusing tale that coke charged more for the water from its bottling plants without any burnt sugar added to it
than they did for the cola
It would make sense that elevated levels of lithium and fluoride in water are correlated. They are both hosted by granitic and felsic volcanic rocks, so aquifers that are hosted by those rocks may have some of each. Not all granites or rhyolites are equal, however, and their concentrations of each element are highly variable.I vaguely recall there's a city out there where the drinking water has elevated (but safe) levels of lithium (used for treating bipolar amongst other things), and their crime rate is statistically lower.
Sometimes water supply is just lucky. Pure doesn't always mean perfect.
Edit: There we go, found literature on it.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7576670/
Not that I'm a SME, so I won't comment on the accuracy - there may be plenty of countervailing results that I'm not equipped to discover. But it's been researched.
Edit 2: Apparently happens a lot in Texas as well as Japan. Couldn't think of a better place to drug the water supply to make the residents more docile (may as well use the paranoid dipshit description of it, because I'm damned sure some lunatic on the internet would anyway)
And the paint.dumbest fucking country. next we'll be adding lead back to the gasoline cas it makes people feel warm and fuzzy