Don’t watermark your legal PDFs with purple dragons in suits

There's a time and there's a place. Federal court is neither.

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[CrystalCowboy]

The Court is not a cartoon."

In recent years, my opinion has come to differ.

 

[NOT_RICK]

Yet another reminder that the furries are out there among us.

 

[MyBloodyBallantine]

Yet another reminder that the furries are out there among us.

Are you still a furry if the thing you are into doesn't have any fur?

 

[Dreadalus]

Perrone must now refile his complaint in that case—without the cartoon dragon.

Now might also be a good time to double check that any cited cases actually exist.

 

[birdman3131]

Are you still a furry if the thing you are into doesn't have any fur?

As I understand it scalies are a sub species of furries.

 

[Jim Salter]

Are you still a furry if the thing you are into doesn't have any fur?

I think this would be more of an "otherkin" than furry sort of a deal, tbh.

 

[dmsilev]

aubergine wyrm

Nice.

 

[The Muftak]

the firm "integrates AI to lower the cost of legal services."

Hell of a law firm., very professional.

 

[Snark218]

Where legal pad meets trapper keeper. Big Lisa Frank energy.

 

[EricBerger]

Finally the judge offers an answer to the question: How to Train Your Lawyer.

 

[Snark218]

Yet another reminder that the furries are out there among us.

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[Drizzt321]

I think even more horrifying is

...says that the firm "integrates AI to lower the cost of legal services."

I'm sure eventually it get to be useful, but AFAIK it's mostly more trouble than it's worth to lawyers because you have to go through and check every single link and citation/etc.

 

[Maestro4k]

Are you still a furry if the thing you are into doesn't have any fur?

Wouldn't that make you furryless?

 

[MacBrave]

Nice to see a link on Ars to the Volokh Conspiracy. It's a great legal blog.

 

[mir-teiwaz]

Chin up Jake, in many parts of the world, court, cosplay (with powdered wigs) remains an essential part of the dignity of the court.

 

[Maestro4k]

I think even more horrifying is



I'm sure eventually it get to be useful, but AFAIK it's mostly more trouble than it's worth to lawyers because you have to go through and check every single link and citation/etc.

Since this particular lawyer was dumb enough to watermark every page of his filing with a large image of a dragon in a suit, drawing a predictable rebuke from the judge, the odds he's going to do that are very, very small. Probably only a matter of time before this or another judge is punishing him for AI hallucinationed cites.

Edit: Why the hell did spellcheck change cites to votes? Fixed.

 

[terrydactyl]

The whole story would be far more humorous were it not from a case in which Perrone represented a woman who claims that she nearly died after being incarcerated and not given proper medical care. Perrone must now refile his complaint in that case—without the cartoon dragon.

Perhaps time to find a serious lawyer. Although, I suspect that's like changing horses in the middle of a stream.

 

[PlasticExistence]

Exit The Dragon

Okay that got a laugh from me

 

[Fatesrider]

Begun, the Scaly vs Furry wars have...

 

[mogbert]

Have the lawyers made any statements vis-à-vis them being, or not being, 'a cat'?

 

[Wheels Of Confusion]

Ah, finally cracking down on the Madam Mim tactic.

 

[Nvoid82]

As I understand it scalies are a sub species of furries.

It’s kind of like how all vertebrates are really just a kind of fucked up fish

 

[Hadrian's Waller]

Is there a virus going around that causes adults to revert to a state of infantilism?

 

[Steel_Sloth]

Dragonriders of ... McKern?

 

[jamesb2147]

I think even more horrifying is



I'm sure eventually it get to be useful, but AFAIK it's mostly more trouble than it's worth to lawyers because you have to go through and check every single link and citation/etc.

I can recall a CS conference I attended offering a talk on how AI was replacing many of the entry level legal roles, and this was 10+ years ago.

It's only the idiots using ChatGPT that are getting snowed.

 

[SplatMan_DK]

I don't know what the big deal is. Lady Justice also has scales.

 

[Thomas Harte]

Chin up Jake, in many parts of the world, court, cosplay (with powdered wigs) remains an essential part of the dignity of the court.

If you're talking about England & Wales then wigs have been optional for a while, but are still often worn — especially by barristers keen to differentiate themselves from those pesky solicitor advocates.

Source: that time I went to law school and qualified as a barrister.

 

[Fred Duck]

Judge Slays Dragon-Branded Lawyer’s Marketing Effort
Magistrate judge is breathing fire over law firm's dragon logo on legal pleadings
Exit the Dragon
US judge gives fiery response to e-filing “dominated by large cartoon dragon dressed in a suit”

These headliners can open for me any time!

His website, which also features the purple dragon and a bunch of busted links in the footer, says that the firm "integrates AI to lower the cost of legal services."

So that the case doesn't DRAG ON, am I right?

The New York Times got in touch with Perrone this week, who explained that he liked Game of Thrones, that he bought the dragon image online, and that he selected it because "people like dragons."

If Federal Magistrate Judge Ray Kent doesn't like the dragon, then logically...Oh dear. Don't say that.

Anyway, I imagine my watermark of a trouserless non-aubergine duck should pass the mustard.

 

[Wheels Of Confusion]

Now that I've gotten the obligatory pop culture reference out of my system.

Jacob A. Perrone is the lawyer behind Dragon Lawyers (phone number: [area code redacted] JAKELAW). His website, which also features the purple dragon and a bunch of busted links in the footer, says that the firm "integrates AI to lower the cost of legal services."

Oh no.

The whole story would be far more humorous were it not from a case in which Perrone represented a woman who claims that she nearly died after being incarcerated and not given proper medical care. Perrone must now refile his complaint in that case—without the cartoon dragon.

Can a competent lawfirm please step in to offer their services pro bono? This woman has been through enough. I'm not even joking.

 

[Person_Man]

Dr. Mole would approve of the pun headlines - hers would be better though.

 

[breze]

Seems like an appropriate level of gravitas. The court system is treated like a weapon/joke by the rich, and random doom machine by the poor in this country. The dragon is wearing a suit at least.

 

[Don Reba]

The unusual order generated coverage across the legal blogging community, which was apparently ensorcelled by a spell requiring headline writers to use dragon-related puns, including:

• Judge Slays Dragon-Branded Lawyer’s Marketing Effort
• Magistrate judge is breathing fire over law firm's dragon logo on legal pleadings
• Exit the Dragon
• US judge gives fiery response to e-filing “dominated by large cartoon dragon dressed in a suit”

Very good. I wish Nate had asked Beth come up with a better headline for this article.

 

[BorisTheRed]

I wonder if the attorney from Dragon Law is any good at Bird Law, as well?

 

[Maarc]

Is there actually a legal reason for this? Or is this just a "Judge doesn't like it" sort of thing?

I mean, it IS juvenile and I get why it would be annoying as hell, but I'm curious as if to there's anything beyond a dislike in this.

 

[kimbykip]

How fiendish of DRAKELAW to try and worm such prideful displays of puffery into the solemn cavernous temples of our justice system! These polluted courts deal with enough smaug as it is, and many consider these judges our last bulwark against the destructive Leviathan (we've got some real slithery lizards up in here, who've got me qwyverin'). I applaud the magisterial clerk for casting out this brazen attempt to tip the scales of justice, as I think we can all agree this kind of nonsense makes legal proceedings dragon and on...

 

[Asbestos Muffins]

Yet another reminder that the furries are out there among us.

besides the nazi furries, they're objectively better than the nazis hiding among us

 

[adespoton]

If you're talking about England & Wales then wigs have been optional for a while, but are still often worn — especially by barristers keen to differentiate themselves from those pesky solicitor advocates.

Source: that time I went to law school and qualified as a barrister.

But in Wales, they have pictures of a red dragon right there in the courtroom!