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Fire destroys Starship on its seventh test flight, raining debris from space
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That is an exceptionally pretty RUD. I wouldn't have expected all the different colours.
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This is best video... shows actual ship RUD. Taken from the Bahamas.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jzs-o63LB0E
Edit: Just to clarify, I am NOT the source of this video.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jzs-o63LB0E
Edit: Just to clarify, I am NOT the source of this video.
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The great thing was to see that even if only 12 out of the 13 engines lit on boost back burn all 13 lit during landing.
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It's a shame but better to catch these issues earlier on with the new design of the starship then later on with a more finalised version. As others have pointed, the debris reentry was very pretty indeed!
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I noticed the CH4 levels displayed on screen drop relative to the O2 levels noticeably after the first engine failed. Up to then, they were tracking each other down. Although a CH4 leak at that altitude wouldn't cause a fire in itself without O2 a pressure buildup could have caused a rupture and subsequent RUD.
Edit: That video is amazing.
Edit: That video is amazing.
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Don't take all the credit, you probably had normal, ordinary parents who actually loved you.
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An aspect that I find interesting is that whilst attention is understandably focused on the loss of the ship, the fact they caught the booster for only the second time is largely overlooked.
How quickly the absolutely jaw-dropping becomes (to some it seems) almost mundane.
How quickly the absolutely jaw-dropping becomes (to some it seems) almost mundane.
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Now I have more questions - like why is there a statue of Magneto in the Bahamas?
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As I commented on the earlier thread, it reminds me of the Eye of Aldhani scene from Andor.
Also, it's interesting that for the Starship booster the exhausts merge to form one big mach diamond, but on BONG each engine is distant enough for the individual diamonds to be clearly visible.
Also, it's interesting that for the Starship booster the exhausts merge to form one big mach diamond, but on BONG each engine is distant enough for the individual diamonds to be clearly visible.
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That's a line which, along with re-enactments of those social media videos, will surely be in a disaster movie coming to theatres soon. In fact, someone will probably say those exact words then immediately be wiped out by falling chunk of debris, or an alien's laser blast.
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"Rapid unscheduled disassembly" has got to be the most fun way to describe an explosion I've ever seen. Hats off!
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I hope eventually it is successful given all the people working so hard on it, but I would still rather it was divorced from the twit prognosticator who is happy to lend his expertise to every strange topic that comes up.
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It's implying that Musk is the Hand of the King for Trump. The second part looks like a typo, I'm guessing that he was going for onboard.
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Watching SpaceX get to this point after years of hearing the naysayers predicting their doom every time something went wrong is refreshing.
They have plowed through so many setbacks and succeeded on the next attempt that the collective response to Starship burning up is “ah well, they’ll get it figured out on the next one. Hopefully they won’t be grounded for long”.
They are one amazing team, to be sure.
P.S. I still giggle when the booster comes back through the clouds hauling ass towards the launch site like an incoming comet. Just amazing!
Edit-from the voting of this comment, I have to assume that "Elon Musk Hate" > "SpaceX Love"
They have plowed through so many setbacks and succeeded on the next attempt that the collective response to Starship burning up is “ah well, they’ll get it figured out on the next one. Hopefully they won’t be grounded for long”.
They are one amazing team, to be sure.
P.S. I still giggle when the booster comes back through the clouds hauling ass towards the launch site like an incoming comet. Just amazing!
Edit-from the voting of this comment, I have to assume that "Elon Musk Hate" > "SpaceX Love"
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Edited the typo, thanks! Not my native language.
Sorry for tasteless comment.
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So I’m not a rocket scientist, figuratively or literally. Could someone explain why the flights had to be diverted? Someone in a previous thread got pilloried for saying these flights were being diverted and even gave visuals. I, too, thought he was just trolling at the time.
I was under the impression that exclusion zones existed precisely to prevent exactly that type of thing from happening.
Was the ship simply past the exclusion zone? How far do these exclusion zones extend? I realize national boundaries exist, etc., but I really thought that these NOTAMS were international to avoid exactly this scenario.
I was under the impression that exclusion zones existed precisely to prevent exactly that type of thing from happening.
Was the ship simply past the exclusion zone? How far do these exclusion zones extend? I realize national boundaries exist, etc., but I really thought that these NOTAMS were international to avoid exactly this scenario.
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They don't need two towers, but it doesn't hurt.
As Starship orbits the earth, the Earth rotates under it. Meaning that when Starship finishes its first orbit 90 minutes later, it is no longer over Texas. But Starship keeps on orbiting, and Earth keeps on rotating, and twice a day they line up where Starship is again over Texas.
Thus you can lower the booster to the OLM, detank, etc. before your first window to catch Starship opens up. For the first Starship catch attempt, I suspect it will happen the next day or even later. The Booster will no longer be on the OLM, likely moved back to the Megabay for inspection.
That first catch might even happen on the second tower. The second tower has a better orientation for catching a returning Starship.
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Yeah, no, probably not. Not unless they launch an investigation and complete it by Monday morning.
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With Ship going to orbit, SpaceX will have several hours (and possibly days) to safe and set down the Booster onto a transport stand, and cart it off the pad, before the Ship comes in for a landing. So, one tower could suffice for a while.
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'Air traffic controllers closed a swath of airspace between the Turks and Caicos Islands, the Dominican Republic, and Puerto Rico to commercial air traffic for more than an hour, causing some passenger airline flights to enter a holding pattern, return to their departure airports, land at alternate airfields, or delay their takeoffs.'
So SpaceX has to reimburse all those people who's day or holiday was ruined right?
So SpaceX has to reimburse all those people who's day or holiday was ruined right?
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Musk is the single most followed account on X, by far, and every post/reply of his has the potential to draw millions of views, and thus is inevitably followed by hundreds, if not thousands of further replies by sycophants, scammers, and bots trying to grift off of that exposure, which in turn causes the algorithm to boost your post even further. Thus, if you can get senpai to notice you by mentioning his name, and he blesses you with a reply, you can accrue all of that exposure to yourself, for say, if you're pumping a stock, hyping a scam, or promoting your book.
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As great a view those Starship debris are, what I really want to see is high altitude footage of Starship re-entry above Indian Ocean. I hope someday NASA releases those video. They flew observational flight from Australia IIRC.
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I was saying a few days ago that it would be kind of funny if BO succeeded and SpaceX failed, but I was thinking in terms of landing the boosters. SpaceX has gotten so good at launches that I just assumed the upper stage would make it. All my focus was on the landing part.
The landings did come out the way one would normally expect, but wow, the upper stages sure didn't.
The fireworks this time were awesome, but such a shame that there was so much traffic disruption. I'm all about the blinkenlights, whatever the source, but I'd rather get the show with less inconvenience to others.
The landings did come out the way one would normally expect, but wow, the upper stages sure didn't.
The fireworks this time were awesome, but such a shame that there was so much traffic disruption. I'm all about the blinkenlights, whatever the source, but I'd rather get the show with less inconvenience to others.
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As written in TFA:
So there were predefined exclusion zones, but apparently debris fell outside those predefined boundaries.
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There's the launch exclusion zone, but I'm guessing once you're above a certain altitude without RUD everything's back to normal unless RUD happens further into flight. Then you shut down where its falling for an hour or so if it happens and that's really all you can do.
It's all going to fall into that zone for a short period then nothing left to fall.
Back to normal.
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As I understand it there are two zones. The closed zone, where aircraft are not allowed during the NOTAM. And the Debris Response Area, which is a broader and predefined area where debris might fall during a RUD. The reason the FAA was able to respond so quickly and divert flights along the corridor, was because they activated the second broader area the moment a RUD was confirmed. So the debris is still within a boundary, but it was the broader worst case boundary.
If I am mistaken I would love correction.
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Did notice that too. At first I thought that is might be part of the pez dispenser, but that is on the other part of the ship.
since this is a front flap camera, this seems to be directly below the front flap. I noticed that when it moved past most of the atmosphere, the flapping died down considerably
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