Rebuilt Microsoft Teams app promises twice the speed and half the RAM usage
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Good news. Teams is such clumsy hog of an app. If ever there was a case for a native app, seems like a messaging and conferencing app would be it. It’s really telling that even Microsoft have largely abandoned native apps in favour of web technologies.
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Well, I'm still glad I don't have to use it, but at least they're trying to make it better.
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Well it could hardly be worse.
I've been using it for a few weeks, though not so much for speed (which I do appreciate) as for the best new feature IMO - multiple user accounts! Finally!!
I've been using it for a few weeks, though not so much for speed (which I do appreciate) as for the best new feature IMO - multiple user accounts! Finally!!
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If I uninstall it now, will it return (in the new version) like a zombie? That seems to have happened a couple of times after Windows updates.
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You are right! (sort of...)
The headline on my iOS device:
"Rebuilt Teams app will run faster and use less RAM on your terrible work laptop"
EDIT: I refreshed the page on my phone and the 'on your terrible work laptop' is...gone!
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Does this replace the Apple Silicon native Teams app Microsoft just released? That feels like a step backwards.
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I can understand - though still hate - that smaller devs need to use frameworks like Electron to be able to support cross-platform, but there's really no excuse for a gorilla like Microsoft from not developing fully native on each platform.
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We may never know. Wow, look how much better this app performs on Microsoft's OS! What a mysterious coincidence.
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Colleagues that have used "The New Teams" have had nothing but complaints about it. But then the old Teams is also crap. Wish I didn't need to use it.
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having used WebEx for years then finally moving to Teams this year, I gotta say I'm a fan of Teams especially on mobile (iOS, Android).
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I hate Electron. It’s slow, clunky, and a resource hog. The only time I see it as worthwhile is for small devs that don’t have the resources to make a native app across multiple platforms. For bigger devs (such as MS), using anything other than native code (especially for the GUI) is just lazy.
I’m still pissed that 1Password moved to Electron in 1P8. 1P7 was such a beautifully written native app, but I digress…
I’m still pissed that 1Password moved to Electron in 1P8. 1P7 was such a beautifully written native app, but I digress…
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In related news, microwaved leftover chicken McNuggets are more enjoyable than broken glass salad with salted lemon juice dressing.
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The test will be: can I install it and have it work, at all, in my little RCA tablet with Win10 32-bit on an older Atom CPU with 2GB RAM and maybe 5GB free in local storage? Teams, at the moment, does not. It will install, but can't run fast enough to be useful."Half" the RAM usage, so it'll only use like 80GB now?
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Don't say it couldn't be worse. I can't handle worse, but I can just barely imagine it.
Multiple accounts though? Fucking finally.
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I’ve been long baffled that an app I use exactly like MS Messenger 20 years ago continues to be slow, suffer from violent updates and fail basics like notifications. Windows is dying in its armor. Even MS’ own dev Teams cannot reconcile a lack of direction spanning decades.
Oh, you wanted to access your report today? Access denied. Unlock here instead. Oh, did you notice we updated Teams? Because you haven’t got messages in four hours? Time to change your settings again. So sorry, this will improve performance and keep nation state actors - also our valued customers - out of your laptops, maybe. No promises! That’s so twentieth century you know. Now prove you’re not a bot, look at your phone, twice, click this and then enter your code here. If you need help, an intern might help on the message board if the kindness of internet strangers fails us.
Oh, you wanted to access your report today? Access denied. Unlock here instead. Oh, did you notice we updated Teams? Because you haven’t got messages in four hours? Time to change your settings again. So sorry, this will improve performance and keep nation state actors - also our valued customers - out of your laptops, maybe. No promises! That’s so twentieth century you know. Now prove you’re not a bot, look at your phone, twice, click this and then enter your code here. If you need help, an intern might help on the message board if the kindness of internet strangers fails us.
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Note for enterprise users:
1.6 is still getting updates as “Teams Classic”. You will not get v2 until your Teams administrators says so.
1.6 is still getting updates as “Teams Classic”. You will not get v2 until your Teams administrators says so.
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New ARS commenting rule: If referencing a headline, always quote it.
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I assume all the places that the article says ”disc” it really means “RAM” - disc space is irrelevant. But my work desktop auto-starts Teams (which I have no control over) and when it is doing nothing and has no windows displayed, it still takes over 600MB of RAM. If they’d configure this thing with enough RAM, it wouldn’t really matter, but they won’t. So anything that makes it’s footprint smaller is good.
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To be fair, WebEx is arguably just about the worst webcast/collaboration platform. It brings any computer I've used it on (there are still some web conferences that use it) to its knees, and won't run at all on the Atom tablet or my Nokia 6.1. Even current Teams improves on that experience. A version that uses memory more efficiently (and takes up less space in storage, because it's using libraries that are already in the OS?) should have no trouble beating WebEx.
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You'll never see me defending Teams in its current state but I can't be the only one that groans every time a full application turns into an Edge window with the corners sanded off.
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That's what I mean: The bar is VERY low to beat the experience of webex.
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Agreed. Seems interesting, speaking of platforms, that I can't find one instance in the article re running under Linux. I'm stuck with Teams for my work with The Vet Center, and much of my Team Rubicon work. Irritating is a good word. I only keep one Windows partition active/updated, on my Ubuntu laptop, but at least I don't have to boot to Win to use Teams at present. Ah...there's the door...
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Incredible if true. Hopefully my work computer is updated soon.
I do wonder though if the improved ram usage is only a benefit if you use Edge as your browser.
I do wonder though if the improved ram usage is only a benefit if you use Edge as your browser.
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How is Java worse than a make-your-webapp-standalone framework, at least in terms of performance?
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My classic Teams is using 500MB, it's been open most of the week (I got an update on Monday at lunch I think). On a machine with 32GB of RAM that's not exactly taxing =) I've got about 50 chats open between folks on project teams and meeting notes."Half" the RAM usage, so it'll only use like 80GB now?
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My favorite Teams feature is the way I have to force-close it and reopen it every time my laptop dozes off, and then it inevitably fails to reauthenticate properly right when I am trying to get into a meeting. It's just the best.
I mean, Outlook (usually) reconnects without complaint, and Teams is literally part of the same software suite...I know that the reason is that Outlook is a real application and Teams is Electron fuckery, but the fact that the problem still exists—and might continue to exist, for all we know, with the new version of Teams—is fucking embarrassing.
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